# using NPA and getting the A 314 effect? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 4, 2009, 10:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-npa-and-getting-the-a-314-effect/28654 "2009-05-04T10:28:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![stratosphero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f475e1/32.png) [@stratosphero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stratosphero)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 10:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-npa-and-getting-the-a-314-effect/28654/1 "2009-05-04T10:28:11Z")
I’ mixed 5 dropps of NPA with 5ml of my cologne. everytime I use this mix (3 or 4 sprays) people are very polite and friendly, try to help me and act as if I’m somebody who they’ve waited for all day. Women seem to be a bit , let’s say ‘flirty’ when they talk to me. I wouldn’t call it an obviously sexual behavior. 🙂 Well, isn’t this what A 314 is supposed to achieve? Strangely enough, I haven’t noticed such results using A 314. 😕 Do you guys have any theorie about what’s going on? ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 12:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-npa-and-getting-the-a-314-effect/28654/2 "2009-05-04T12:13:51Z")
NPA is more like a slightly more complex TUTH. It is a sexual product. If you used 2-3 drops of NPA straight (like you would apply A314) you might pick up on that a little more. Diluted as it is women are still a little “flirty”. A314 on the other hand can give you a very heavy alpha male - leader - vibe. But you have to behave like a strong leader or people will very quickly ignore the vibe and treat you … however. Check out Renny’s thread - Congruency? What’s that? - for some good reading on congruency. A314 is not a friendly social mix designed to draw people to you and make everyone happy. Often what happens with A314 is what i call respect distance. People will actually give you extra room out of respect unless you let them know you are open to contact, discussion, etc. Some women are drawn to the A314 signature. They are women looking for a very strong guy. And they will figure out quickly if that is you or not. It may actually push away women who are shy or lloking for a different kind of guy. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 4:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-npa-and-getting-the-a-314-effect/28654/3 "2009-05-04T16:57:19Z")
While we love to draw characterizations of mone responses, the truth is they may vary greatly due to race, age, body chemistry, persona, targets, and situation. I often use NPA and have gotten similar reactions as the OP but also pretty much the full gamut of human behavior. People do what they do. Mones enhance and shade your persona but ain’t mind control or obligated to follow marketing hype. With all that said, if attraction exists, NPA has proven to help enflame many a female in my company. It’s really effective at pushing crazy ones over the edge, attracting stalkers and flipping the horndog switch in nymphos. Dangerous shit… ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 5:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-npa-and-getting-the-a-314-effect/28654/4 "2009-05-04T17:34:30Z")
I’ve never used NPA before, but I gather it’s high in None. High None does cause respect in more beta males. Respect via intimidation. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 7:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-npa-and-getting-the-a-314-effect/28654/5 "2009-05-04T19:51:59Z")
I wouldn’t call it respect. Perhaps uneasiness is a better term. A sudden bout of nerves, fear or intimidation from a stranger/causal acquaintance does not rise from respect. It comes from not knowing what to expect: “Is this guy gonna whip me, dress me down or think critical thoughts about me?” Respect rises from substance and, thus, is something you earn, not something you put on like a shirt or cologne. The target needs to be around you long enough to observe your words and actions and judge if you’re worthy of respect, a big fake or a dangerous jerk. I wear NPA a lot and most of the time males act normal around me. However those few whom already feel threaten by my status–e.g., new students or colleagues–appear even more nervous, some to the point of shaking and sweating. Once I talk to them a few minutes I can put them totally at ease and they’re usually fine thereafter, even when I wear NPA and/A314… ---
**Author:** ![stud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stud)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 8:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-npa-and-getting-the-a-314-effect/28654/6 "2009-05-04T20:19:53Z")
Hey Gegogi or any one else. Is NPA definitely better than primal instinct? about the same? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 9:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-npa-and-getting-the-a-314-effect/28654/7 "2009-05-04T21:48:01Z")
Depends on your body chemistry, persona and goals. I prefer NPA simply because it works well for me and is designed to be mixed 1 part to 5 parts cologne. Put it in a Sephora atomizer and you’re good to go at anytime. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 2:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-npa-and-getting-the-a-314-effect/28654/8 "2009-05-05T02:52:27Z")
I too prefer NPA to PI. ---
**Author:** ![stratosphero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f475e1/32.png) [@stratosphero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stratosphero)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 4:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-npa-and-getting-the-a-314-effect/28654/9 "2009-05-05T16:35:05Z")
well, thanx guys. 🙂 gegogi, in some other post you wrote something about using npa together with realm. is it a mix you would recommend? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2009, 4:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-npa-and-getting-the-a-314-effect/28654/10 "2009-05-05T16:56:17Z")
I said I used to mix 5 parts Realm to 1 part NPA, plus a few drops of clove EO and cedar. Realm is a poor cologne but actually smells pretty good with -none and the EO spikes. The NPA worked really well. However, there are much better colognes on the market and I have since moved on. I only used Realm as I thought the trace amounts of EST might be useful (they weren’t).