# Using p74 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 5, 2015, 3:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-p74/63600 "2015-01-05T03:28:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![gca65](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/45deac/32.png) [@gca65](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gca65)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2015, 3:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-p74/63600/1 "2015-01-05T03:28:28Z")
Hello everyone! I am a gay male living in California. I’m 49 years old. I am looking for something to attract more men into my life. I purchased [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) , 7.5mcg 30ml (have not received it yet) and would like to know how I can best use it by itself initially, and how I can combine it with something else in the future. I tend to be more feminine and submissive than my partner. At my age its not as easy as before so I really need something that works. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![GorchFock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/90ced4/32.png) [@GorchFock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorchFock)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2015, 2:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-p74/63600/2 "2015-01-05T14:01:49Z")
> [@gca65](#): > > Hello everyone! I am a gay male living in California. I’m 49 years old. I am looking for something to attract more men into my life. I purchased P74 , 7.5mcg 30ml (have not received it yet) and would like to know how I can best use it by itself initially, and how I can combine it with something else in the future. I tend to be more feminine and submissive than my partner. At my age its not as easy as before so I really need something that works. Thanks! [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) seems to be a very good choice. It is attracting, promotes rapport between men and provides nice self-effects. My suggestion is to start out with 15 mcg (perhaps one spray to neck, one to wrist for broad diffusion) and add more when you got more familiar with mone-usage and reactions. 30-40 mcg mcg is considered something of a threshold where it can! become what some describe as too “betafying”, friendly/friendzone, comfortble in regard to men attracting women. Personally I’ve never experienced that, but as a standalone 15-30 mcg should be a good dose. There is also a distinct “gay” product offred by AD (Mystery Boy) in case you missed that. Furhter useful information about mones to attract gay men in this thread: > [@Mystery Boy replacement?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mystery-boy-replacement/59380): > > Is there anything for bi/gay men out there similar to [Mystery Boy](https://a314.com/product/mystery-boy/)? I’ve heard great things about that one, but I heard it’s no longer available. I’m looking for something that has a similar effect. or search for “myster boy” threads and similiar topics in this forum. Infos are vast. I’ve done some reseach lately for a gay friend and convinced him to buy AD stuff 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Himeros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/himeros/32/2325_2.png) [@Himeros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Himeros)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2015, 5:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-p74/63600/3 "2015-01-05T17:01:49Z")
Where do you intend to wear the phero’s? If at parties, in bars, etc where a sexual vibe is acceptable, you can wear [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) with a blunt dose of androstenone. It moderates it very well. At your age you can go for TUTH double strength. I had a weird experience once, when a gay friend of mine leaned in for a kiss on the lips… Granted he was a bit tipsy/drunk, but I was wearing a hefty dose of heat that was sending him all the wrong signals. Had to dodge his move and politely excuse myself 😮 ---
**Author:** ![jumba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c68b51/32.png) [@jumba](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jumba)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2015, 10:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-p74/63600/4 "2015-01-09T22:33:28Z")
i have [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) and i didn’t know it was use to attract gay man… 0.o ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2015, 11:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-p74/63600/5 "2015-01-09T23:02:16Z")
> [@jumba](#): > > i have P74 and i didn’t know it was use to attract gay man… 0.o [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) is not a “gay phero” if that’s what you mean? Instead, its a good emotional engagement/bonding/closeness putative - Fully usable for promoting “connection” with both sexes, depending on dose/proportion and what else you steer it with. TBH, many good mixes for using around women will also get you resounding hits from some men - This is because many gay men are attracted to a phero signature similar to what turns-on a straight woman. ---
**Author:** ![lwatkins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lwatkins/32/472_2.png) [@lwatkins](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lwatkins)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 6:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-p74/63600/6 "2015-01-12T18:24:32Z")
[P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/), I keep getting gifts and freebies when I wear this one. People want to do things for you. They want to give you kisses. I’ve gotten unexpected kisses on the lips from wearing this (from women). From wife, I only get BJ’s when I wear THIS. She says, she was just in the mood, though somehow otherwise, she never is. Guys offering a beer / shots at bars. It’s all a pattern. There are some studies, when people see someone they find sexually attractive, they are suddenly in a mood to offer assistance and help. I get that kind of help when I wear this, even though it seems innocent and non-sexual on the face of it. If getting BJ’s and freebies is Beta, it’s not so bad. ---
**Author:** ![GorchFock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/90ced4/32.png) [@GorchFock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorchFock)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2015, 9:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-p74/63600/7 "2015-01-12T21:36:07Z")
Cool. Is that p74 solo or in combos. And what are the doses you usually apply? ---
**Author:** ![Nick\_W](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nick_w/32/2200_2.png) [@Nick\_W](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nick_W)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 5:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-p74/63600/8 "2015-01-13T05:54:30Z")
Personally I have used [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) with TAH to get some pretty interesting results. 40MCG of TAH and 15MCG of P74. Noticed a big increase in kino from the two girls that ended up in my pherocloud. They are already comfortable with me, but getting kisses from fitties ain’t something I am about to whine about. P74 like most putatives isn’t a one trick pony. It can do a lot or a little depending on how you empower it. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 11:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-p74/63600/9 "2015-01-13T11:48:59Z")
> [@GorchFock](#): > > Cool. Is that p74 solo or in combos. And what are the doses you usually apply? P74 usually delivers best in combos - [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and TUTH for different aspects of sexual. P74 will moderate TUTH alone for use in daytime. Dose varies with what you pair it with but broadly, if anything romantic/sexual is your goal, keep it below 30mcg unless you have a honking sexual to offset it. Very typically I use 7.5, 15 and 30-60mcg P74 depending on mix style. On its own, P74 delivers some properties in common with IH - close enough for it to have been used as an alternative in times when IH has been off the menu/very expensive. However, when used together, IH and P74 have a synergistic effect that deepens the properties of both considerably **and** this is a key primary fallout combo that can be used with many other products (eg P96/P83 and a sexual) to promote that lasting/lingering/bonding effect. A314/IH/P74(at over 30mcg) is an excellent professional combo that gets the most difficult people on to your side - but watch-out for unintentional/embarrassing fallout effects on people more regularly exposed (both sexes). This can be effectively sexualised for after work by adding TUTH and its a humdinger around Indian women. Only negatives I’ve found with P74 is that it can be a bit too “best friendly” if used in higher doses, although that’s actually good in professional/status mixes and on initial/regular use, you can get a slight metallic taste in your mouth which passes after a while. ---
**Author:** ![GorchFock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/90ced4/32.png) [@GorchFock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorchFock)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2015, 4:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-p74/63600/10 "2015-01-17T16:00:09Z")
> [@Nick\_W](#): > > Personally I have used P74 with TAH to get some pretty interesting results. 40MCG of TAH and 15MCG of P74. Noticed a big increase in kino from the two girls that ended up in my pherocloud. They are already comfortable with me, but getting kisses from fitties ain’t something I am about to whine about. P74 like most putatives isn’t a one trick pony. It can do a lot or a little depending on how you empower it. Cool. I’d guess a lot of users would shy away from such a mix, supposing it to be to “effeminate”. I for one believe that some amount of distinct female mones can enhance any attraction mix. Based just on my personal reasoning, that most women I’m seriously attracted to have some slight manly traits in either looks or behaviour. I like fit, proud and confident females. But 40 mcg of TAH is really a lot I figure 😉 ---
**Author:** ![GorchFock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/90ced4/32.png) [@GorchFock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorchFock)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2015, 4:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-p74/63600/11 "2015-01-17T16:01:47Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > P74 usually delivers best in combos - Ammo and TUTH for different aspects of sexual. P74 will moderate TUTH alone for use in daytime. Dose varies with what you pair it with but broadly, if anything romantic/sexual is your goal, keep it below 30mcg unless you have a honking sexual to offset it. Very typically I use 7.5, 15 and 30-60mcg P74 depending on mix style. > > On its own, P74 delivers some properties in common with IH - close enough for it to have been used as an alternative in times when IH has been off the menu/very expensive. However, when used together, IH and P74 have a synergistic effect that deepens the properties of both considerably **and** this is a key primary fallout combo that can be used with many other products (eg P96/P83 and a sexual) to promote that lasting/lingering/bonding effect. > > A314/IH/P74(at over 30mcg) is an excellent professional combo that gets the most difficult people on to your side - but watch-out for unintentional/embarrassing fallout effects on people more regularly exposed (both sexes). This can be effectively sexualised for after work by adding TUTH and its a humdinger around Indian women. > > Only negatives I’ve found with P74 is that it can be a bit too “best friendly” if used in higher doses, although that’s actually good in professional/status mixes and on initial/regular use, you can get a slight metallic taste in your mouth which passes after a while. Top advice! How much mcg of p74 minimum to moderate a shot of TUTH (2,5 mcg). 7,5 as well? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2015, 4:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/using-p74/63600/12 "2015-01-17T16:18:12Z")
I’d usually do 20-30mcg [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) with 2 sprays 2x TUTH - this would be good for daytime but still quite hard-hitting but not to the point of recoil and it would vary a bit in other situations and/or if I had some IH in there as well, when the P74 would go down a little.