# "Venting" my Adventures **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Journals\ **Created:** [January 8, 2009, 8:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664 "2009-01-08T20:53:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 2:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/181 "2009-03-11T14:06:49Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > this to me implies that Alphas are in some way more clever. > > im not sure that anyone thinks that anyone fighting at bars are Alpha. > > i think that anyone with the **desire to be more** has Alpha tendencies\*\*.\*\* > > šŸ˜‰ > > now whether or not they succeed may be determined by intelligent behaviour. > > 1deĀ·mand [http://www.merriam-webster.com/images/audio.gif](http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:popWin%28%27/cgi-bin/audio.pl?demand01.wav=demand%27%29) Pronunciation: \di-Ėˆmand, -ĖˆmƤnd, dē-\ Function: _noun_ Date: 13th century 1 a\*\*:\*\* an act of [demanding](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/demanding) or asking especially with authority \ b\*\*:\*\* something claimed as due \ > > 1comĀ·mand [http://www.merriam-webster.com/images/audio.gif](http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:popWin%28%27/cgi-bin/audio.pl?comman01.wav=command%27%29) Pronunciation: \kə-Ėˆmand\ Function: _verb_ Etymology: Middle English _comanden,_ from Anglo-French _cumander,_ from Vulgar Latin _commandare, alteration of Latin commendare to commit to oneā€™s charge ā€” more at [commend](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/commend) Date: 14th century transitive verb1_\*:\*\* to direct authoritatively **:** [order](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/order)2\*\*:\*\* to exercise a dominating influence over **: have command of: as a:** to have at oneā€™s immediate disposal \<_commands many resources\> b:_ to demand or receive as oneā€™s due \<_commands a high fee\> c:_ to overlook or dominate from or as if from a strategic position \ d: \*\*to have military command of as senior officer \ 3_obsolete\* **:** to order or request to be given_intransitive verb_1\*\*:\*\* to have or exercise direct authority **:** [govern](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/govern)2\*\*:\*\* to give orders > > im not seeing a huge difference there. > but again, this is my theory.. Lor, The two verbs _mean_ similar things - but they have differences in use. I demand respect. I command respect. The first sentence is a request, albeit a forceful one, for respect. The second sentence is a statement. Alphaā€™s donā€™t need to ask for respect, they receive it as a direct result of their actions. When I say an Alpha doesnā€™t demand respect, but commands it I mean that for an Alpha respect is implied. The Alpha is the hill that overlooks the city, not the little fat kid that yells ā€œI demand you respect my authoritai!ā€ (Southpark referenceā€¦) ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/182 "2009-03-11T15:43:35Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > honestly, > i think there is a lack of observation skills > or > knowledge that sometimes people (targets) dont react outwardly,especially if they are confused by the signal. I think that might be one of the fundamental roots of the problem, in reality. ALL reactions are reactions to what we are wearing - it is up to us to suss out what it is, and how we instigated it. Sometimes we canā€™t see it dramatically outward, but everybody, everybody, reacts. Body language is an art, as Tisha and Diane have demonstrated. Its then our responsibility to: - figure out what we caused; was it positive/negative/what we intended - why & how - can it be repeated ? And keeping with all of this, remembering that sometimesā€¦ nothing happens. But that is a reaction too. ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 3:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/183 "2009-03-11T15:45:21Z")
> [@Wrlprchnx](#): > > Lor, > > The two verbs _mean_ similar things - but they have differences in use. > > I demand respect. > > I command respect. > > The first sentence is a request, albeit a forceful one, for respect. > The second sentence is a statement. once again, exactly on the money. Just reading the above really shows a complete difference in connotation and denotation. For a true alpha, the second statement need not even be said. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 6:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/184 "2009-03-11T18:12:22Z")
out and about today wore: 2 sprays MX285 i got mixed messages wearing this one. actually had to pick up furniture and saw same behaviour repeat all day- women didnt SEE me, and men couldnt be more helpful. i actually head a woman walk on me as if i wasnt there, and it wasnt disrespect, i believed she really didnt see/smell/hear me! now im wearing a black t-shirt with bright acid-trip smiley-faces on it, and i sing while i shop. wth? i felt like a consumer-_ninja_. then, lifting became an issue and some guy saw this and helped. nothing special, except he had an oppotunity to bail because i didnt know he could see me having this issue (our backs for the most part were turned) only men found reasons to help me/chat, again nothing special except the ratio of men to women were rediculous. so what do i think about MX285? whatever is in it, women tune it out and men pick up on it. no self effects. will try again tomorow maybe ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 7:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/185 "2009-03-11T19:42:13Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > i guess i am comming across anti-pheromone use when > really > i am so pro-use that > when they are being used in excess > i feel they lose their intentional purpose. > which is to enhance/inspire/influence > not > make issues go away > šŸ™„ Nahā€¦ I think you are coming across for _responsible_ pheromone use. Unfortunately, it takes testing to find out what responsible use is. And that is an issue I think we each need to grapple with for ourselves. Diane ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 4:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/186 "2009-03-12T04:52:48Z")
wore: MX134 3 sprays 15mu TAA another 7.5 spray later girls like this mix. i got good girl attention. nothing over the top, girls allowed me to pick thier beer (usually they look to boyfriends) asked me questions. alot of smiling (smiling isnt unusual; smiling at me as opposed to blank stare _is_) guys were exceptionally well behaved (very weird. i get playful coaster-throwing and hearty laughs. no so much tonight) they werent serious or not having a good time, but they werent being _boys_. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 1:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/187 "2009-03-13T13:19:35Z")
last night was interesting. had a list of pheromones i wanted to try together, but i pulled into work way too late and only got aprox 125mu EST on, and a boatload of cops from earlier in the day,when i was checking to see if my new peach perfume would cover them. cop application was at my ankles, which i also thought would be interesting to note in relationship to the results. nothing groovy on my wrists, which is the ideal app point for me due to the nature of my job. i have always looked for but never saw in a serious way the protectiveness that EST brings forth. last night i did. a coworker who is usually friendly was very protective. issues at work caused a reason to take sides. a few patrons were exaggeratedly protective, over issues that were not necessarily worthy of side-taking. (people teasing was misconstrued by them and they thought i may need a man around šŸ˜ƒ) i definatley and without question had people trying to keep me within 3 feet of them at all times. no, this is not normal. i try to throw EST on often for an amost-there softness at 50-75mu, but i definately prefer the ā€œwe need you, let us help youā€ physically motivated response at 125mu. not sure if anyone got anything from the cops. nothing to note there. ---
**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/188 "2009-03-13T13:35:20Z")
How were your tips at 125 mu? I guess if you are getting a protective response at that level you should makes off-hand joke comments about being poorā€¦ then watch the ā€œNeed to protect Lor and make her money situation goodā€ tips roll in šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 1:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/189 "2009-03-13T13:44:37Z")
> [@Wrlprchnx](#): > > How were your tips at 125 mu? > > I guess if you are getting a protective response at that level you should makes off-hand joke comments about being poorā€¦ then watch the ā€œNeed to protect Lor and make her money situation goodā€ tips roll in šŸ˜› interesting you say thatā€¦ tips sucked BUT while some were hardly tipping (usually the ones not sitting at the bar) the ones that _saw_ the others not tipping went out of their way to make up for it . extra 10ā€™s flew around and i basically came out even šŸ™„ ---
**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 3:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/190 "2009-03-13T15:29:00Z")
On another noteā€¦ I hardly think angel is a fitting description ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 3:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/191 "2009-03-13T15:35:28Z")
> [@Wrlprchnx](#): > > On another noteā€¦ I hardly think angel is a fitting description except that everything in life is relative. _relative,_ i tells ya. put that in your pipe and smoke it šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 5:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/192 "2009-03-13T17:46:58Z")
wore MX286 out this afternoon. definatly a few head turns, but then again im wearing my mothman t-shirt so im always getting a few turns for my apparel. sprayed 2 full sprays to arms. yawned my head off. 20 minutes into it, i wanted to nap. im definalty not acclimated to the putatives yet, assuming this mix is chock-full of them. next time i try this mix, im adding a smidge of TAF. and starbucks. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 6:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/193 "2009-03-13T18:16:32Z")
not for nothing, but everyday i read posts from the absolute coolest people ever to hear they are crushing on some girl or boy that eats up their attention but isnt showing them the love. im not saying their crush owes them anything. they dont. it just pains me to watch the lengths some go to get this one personā€™s attention. i guess i am inspired by Katieā€™s journal. her TG doesnt know how lucky she is. from a bartenders point of view, this chase is totally natural, and the high you get from crushing is totally worth never seeing any fruition. however, when it gets to the point where its beyond crushing and your attention is more on their reaction to you than _your_ reaction to _you_, its time to take a vacation from the crush. chances are that cutting off the energy that the target has been feeding off of is going to be a shock to them at first, and then either they will slowly fade away or start paying attention to YOU. again, im not trying to say the target is wrong in any way, but atleast you will know if you are ever going to get anywhere or if you are just addicted to crushing in general. this is a real addiction, and in that regard you cant feel be for the one doing the crushing. they are definatley getting a pay-off that you cant see. just some out-loud thoughts. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 6:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/194 "2009-03-13T18:25:56Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > its time to take a vacation from the crush. > > chances are that cutting off the energy that the target has been feeding off of is going to be a shock to them at first, > and then either they will slowly fade away or start paying attention to YOU. > > just some out-loud thoughts. And some very good ones at that ā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 1:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/195 "2009-03-17T13:16:58Z")
went to work wearing residual stuff from daytime activities. wanted to do more P101 testing, but had no strategy to avoid the blues that seem to happen afterwards. i remembered feeling good enough with it to want to try again, but definately not without a strategy. anyhoo, so im at work and there is Fever, just asking to become a phero-storm cloud. he grabs the MX304 and walks away. comes back smiling,almost laughing, and hands it back to me. are Fever and the bottle of pheros sharing a joke? OMG this mix- i dont know if it is the smell or the actual mix, but it was _fun_. there was this feeling of guard-down _sha-la_ _la-la_ _la-la_ _live for to-day_ā€¦ _and dont worry-_ _'bout tomorrow,hey_ā€¦ definately need to re-try this mix. if it wasnt coincidence, this is going to be one hell of a mix ! ---
**Author:** ![Tommy\_Fever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@Tommy\_Fever](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tommy_Fever)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 5:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/196 "2009-03-17T17:25:17Z")
I grabbed the mix304 and i liked it šŸ˜ƒ. I come back in the bar and Lor looks at me, smiles and says " let me in on the joke" I say " no joke" and point at the 304. i didā€™nt even realize i had a big grin going on. I sit down and take a few sips of my beer and feel myself in my own little world. I got this tune goin on in my head. A minute or so goes by and a friend to my left 2 stools down says ā€œHey Tomā€. I turn and he is smiling and says ā€œShut the fuck upā€ and starts laughing. i start laughing because i realize i,ve been singing out loud. [everyones a critic] Lor comes by and gabs.WE are all smiles. i compliment her on her appearence and she says ā€œthank youā€. i say noo ā€œthank youā€. she says ā€œnooo thaank youā€. this went back and forth a couple more times, so i stopped, and in a real low voice i say ā€œnothankyouā€. i had to have the last no thank you lor šŸ˜ƒ. anyway, everyone i came in contact with last nite seemed to just enjoy my company and anyone else around me. lots of laughter and smiles. The really big thing i noticed was that i was saying things out loud that i was thinking about but not wanting to put out for the rest of the world. Interesting evening,Thanks for the sample Lor šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 7:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/197 "2009-03-17T19:16:28Z")
okay, tonight everyone is getting phero-bombed. Fever is definately wearing some MX304, unless we tailor-make something. i want to use [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) P86 TAA betanol but for me personally, i plan on P83 P86 and whatever spontaneously hits me in the moment. Fever and I are planning to hit coasters with honesty. This night should be interesting. curious question- anyone think its unfair to spray a friend without their knowledge? i mean spray THEMā€¦their personā€¦ i would never do that (although i talk a great deal šŸ˜ƒ i wouldnt want it done to me,knowing i have preferences!) but im wondering how unfair that would be if they have some unhealthy habits to begin with and the thinking is that this is a healthier oneā€¦ ? ---
**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 7:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/198 "2009-03-17T19:47:57Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > curious question- > > anyone think its unfair to spray a friend without their knowledge? > i mean spray THEMā€¦their personā€¦ > > i would never do that (although i talk a great deal šŸ˜ƒ i wouldnt want it done to me,knowing i have preferences!) > but im wondering how unfair that would be > if they have some unhealthy habits to begin with > and the thinking is that > this is a healthier oneā€¦ > ? Spontaneous spraying without their prior knowledge, noā€¦ that would at the very least get some pretty weirded out looks from my buddies (Dude, what is this shit that your spraying at me -wtf!) Spraying them without letting them know itā€™s pheromones (Hey man, try this new cologne I got) - Iā€™m cautious about doing it with any mix whose nature can be aggressive if overapplied (and since I donā€™t know my friends sweet spots overapplication is very possible) More [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) however, I have no problems with it - I figure the worst it does is make their night better and, potentially, open them up to the possibilities of pheromones. ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 12:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/199 "2009-03-18T00:36:47Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > not for nothing, > > but everyday i read posts from the absolute coolest people ever to hear they are crushing on some girl or boy that eats up their attention but isnt showing them the love. > > im not saying their crush owes them anything. > they dont. > > it just pains me to watch the lengths some go to get this one personā€™s attention. > > i guess i am inspired by Katieā€™s journal. > her TG doesnt know how lucky she is. > > from a bartenders point of view, > this chase is totally natural, > and the high you get from crushing is totally worth never seeing any fruition. > however, > when it gets to the point where its beyond crushing and your attention is more on their reaction to you than > _your_ reaction to _you_, > its time to take a vacation from the crush. > > chances are that cutting off the energy that the target has been feeding off of is going to be a shock to them at first, > and then either they will slowly fade away or start paying attention to YOU. > > again, > im not trying to say the target is wrong in any way, > but atleast you will know if you are ever going to get anywhere or > if you are just addicted to crushing in general. > > this is a real addiction, and in that regard you cant feel be for the one doing the crushing. > they are definatley getting a pay-off that you cant see. > > just some out-loud thoughts. They donā€™t call them _ **crushes** _ for nothing! Diane ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 4:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/200 "2009-03-18T04:52:45Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > They donā€™t call them _ **crushes** _ for nothing! > > Diane no doubt. so why do some get addicted to that ā€œcrushā€ feeling" ? its a surge of something, but how some escape it is beyond me :o [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664.md?page=9) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664.md?page=11)