# "Venting" my Adventures

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664>\
**Category:** Women's Journals\
**Created:** [January 8, 2009, 8:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664 "2009-01-08T20:53:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 5:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/381 "2009-04-22T05:09:53Z")

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definatley.

🙂

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 5:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/382 "2009-04-22T05:45:06Z")

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i really dont know why i venture away from this journal.

i post to another that i like what they have to say, and forum bullies have show dissaproval.

you cant even say you dig someone without these guys being all negative and putting you down.

its as if (yeah _shes gonna say it…)_  
they are nasty and mean so that THEY look better..

there.  
thats why i think they do it.

if you are nice to someone they berate it.

hope they feel cooler, or whatever it is they are trying to feel.

especially the one without the balls to comment, she just thanks the one doing the insulting…

just goes to show you-  
bullies hang out with bullies.

mean likes _mean._

☹

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**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 6:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/383 "2009-04-22T06:01:58Z")

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Read the thing I think you are referencing this evening…

My it did get a tad nasty, hmm?

Personally, I resonate with what Catlord was saying, but I wasn’t _not_ resonating or understanding what the others were saying either.

I felt like anything I had to add would be moot, and would just raise my BP. It turned into a crayon scribble and a sand fight long before I started reading.

But the personal attacks on you, for stating your beliefs and standing by them, were _unnecessary._ And yes, mean.

I also rarely venture far from your and my journal anymore… it’s weird out there…

Stay here with us weirdo’s! We love ya! 😃

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**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 8:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/384 "2009-04-22T08:11:22Z")

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Yeah that thread is getting to be a bit of a stock pot with everything thrown in.

It’s a bit of an eye-opener.

Goes to show it isn’t always a good policy to try to explain something.

Diane

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**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 8:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/385 "2009-04-22T08:27:04Z")

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Okay I just neg repped someone for the very first time ever… over the innuendos Robbie made about the mystery thanker, Garamon.

I probably shouldn’t have done it. But what he said was just so over the top and just so wrong.

Diane

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 12:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/386 "2009-04-22T12:51:14Z")

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he is a seriously _angry_ boy.

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 12:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/387 "2009-04-22T12:55:10Z")

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> [@diane999](#):
>
> Yeah that thread is getting to be a bit of a stock pot with everything thrown in.
> 
> It’s a bit of an eye-opener.
> 
> Goes to show it isn’t always a good policy to try to explain something.
> 
> Diane

im totally digging meeting people for the FIRST time through this thread.  
or atleast it feels like i am meeting them for the first time 😉

you cant _explain_ enough to those who can only hear negativity.

oooh its a TAH/EST/IO kinda day 🙄

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 1:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/388 "2009-04-22T13:49:28Z")

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> [@diane999](#):
>
> Okay I just neg repped someone for the very first time ever… over the innuendos Robbie made about the mystery thanker, Garamon.
> 
> I probably shouldn’t have done it. But what he said was just so over the top and just so wrong.
> 
> Diane

well robbie just ammended his post which was accusatory  
to accuse EVEN MORE.

i negged him, AND i put in the message to _let the truth out_.

i placed a message that i am hoping he will copy and paste to the forum.  
robbie and renny and bella do not know how to communicate like adults.

if you **want** to accuse, then just come out and **DO IT.**  
lets hear the truth. **everything**.

but we WONT, because then that would mean appologies if they are wrong.  
and we all know they CANT allow the forum to know they are wrong.

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**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 3:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/389 "2009-04-22T15:38:43Z")

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Garamon is a thread ninja. 😃

He’s popping up all over the place, thanking this way and that. I knew he wasn’t you, Lor, when he thanked a post in opposition to us on the Mice thread. Unless you are crazy… which you could very well be… 🙂 🙂

Crazy angry that is!

You’ve made comments about some of these individuals before, and now it’s all starting to come together. You really do need to see the full breadth of a person’s actions and reactions to get a good grasp of who they are. That’s why I _hate_ when people say BS like, “I know blah-blah, and I trust that he/she wouldn’t do something so mean!” BS - you don’t know jack in an online forum - especially not with someone you have _no interactions_ with!

But I digress…

I tried to PM him once - his whole profile is set to private - no incoming msgs received. I agree with you Diane - I think he’s part of the PheroTalk social experiment conspiracy. 😉

I think some people get really high and mighty with who they are on the forum, and how long they’ve been posting… especially the ones who _really_ like their rep points and post them in their profile… though that hasn’t been a forum feature in ages…

But, when it comes down to it, I haven’t ever gotten any valuable assistance from all their plethora of posts… Nope, just brilliant insight, help, and facts from you two!

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 3:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/390 "2009-04-22T15:54:07Z")

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thank you, Tigerlily.

hopefully now that Tisha has stated that i am not Garamon (who happens to be a forum angel)

we can leave all that alone.

_sigh_

im a more watchful and suspicious person for it.

i never signed up for a popularity contest.

just want to give love wherever a post is helpful.

> [@](#):
>
> I think some people get really high and mighty with who they are on the forum, and how long they’ve been posting… especially the ones who _really_ like their rep points and post them in their profile… though that hasn’t been a forum feature in ages…

or maybe we should say someone is “self-important” while our avatar is a pic of us showing off our abs???  
oh yeah, notice _that_ is gone now…

ok im done.

back to our pheromonally scented program 😃

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 4:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/391 "2009-04-22T16:34:19Z")

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tonights experiment:

instant gentleman (in place of pure 'rone)  
and TAH.

i will be applying

2 sprays of instant gentleman to the wrists

(pouring beer and handing back money puts my wrists directly under everyones noses in a bar)

and 60mu of unscented TAH to overall body.

this will be to begin.

i may or may not add more later.

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 4:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/392 "2009-04-22T16:40:26Z")

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this is going to be a funny experiment.

on one hand, TAH is the worst thing for tips.

on the other, 'rone gives me DHV , and may make me lots of money.

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**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 5:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/393 "2009-04-22T17:16:14Z")

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I am _hoping_ that you get the love love from the TAH, but the serious mooolaa from the -rone. 😃

Can you imagine if this works?

I am so hoping it does.

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/394 "2009-04-22T17:55:10Z")

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> [@Tigerlilly](#):
>
> I am _hoping_ that you get the love love from the TAH, but the serious mooolaa from the -rone. 😃
> 
> Can you imagine if this works?
> 
> I am so hoping it does.

either way,its win/win

cant have a bad night, only a less lucrative one.  
seriously, im thinking its going to be GOOD …

oh and _much love_ to Tisha and Steve for setting robbie renny and bella straight.

still only crickets…  
thought id get an apology or two…☹

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**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 6:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/395 "2009-04-22T18:02:25Z")

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> [@Tigerlilly](#):
>
> Garamon is a thread ninja. 😃
> 
> He’s popping up all over the place, thanking this way and that. I knew he wasn’t you, Lor, when he thanked a post in opposition to us on the Mice thread. Unless you are crazy… which you could very well be… 🙂 🙂
> 
> Crazy angry that is!
> 
> You’ve made comments about some of these individuals before, and now it’s all starting to come together. You really do need to see the full breadth of a person’s actions and reactions to get a good grasp of who they are. That’s why I _hate_ when people say BS like, “I know blah-blah, and I trust that he/she wouldn’t do something so mean!” BS - you don’t know jack in an online forum - especially not with someone you have _no interactions_ with!
> 
> But I digress…
> 
> I tried to PM him once - his whole profile is set to private - no incoming msgs received. I agree with you Diane - I think he’s part of the PheroTalk social experiment conspiracy. 😉

Did I ever say that Garamon is part of any social experiment conspiracy???

I don’t think I’ve ever used any words like that to describe anyone. And I know I’ve never talked with you about Garamon.

What I said in a _private_ PM to you was that the forum is, itself, a social experiment… not a conspiracy.

> [@Tigerlilly](#):
>
> I think some people get really high and mighty with who they are on the forum, and how long they’ve been posting… especially the ones who _really_ like their rep points and post them in their profile… though that hasn’t been a forum feature in ages…
> 
> But, when it comes down to it, I haven’t ever gotten any valuable assistance from all their plethora of posts… Nope, just brilliant insight, help, and facts from you two!

I think it is way too easy to weigh these posts heavier than they are. It is a forum phenomena that just happens. These kinds of sling-fights don’t generally happen in normal life with this many people in person, because we are socialized better for face-to-face communication. And we generally are better at sublimating our fears and suspicions in person, especially when we get immediate, physical feedback through body language that serves to keep our emotional and verbal responses in check.

That isn’t to say everyone is like that in person, and I’m sure we’ve all run into people who have gone over the top in an irrational way. The difference in person is we can choose not to hang with that person any more. On a forum like this the only thing you can do is put them on _ignore_.

It is too easy to forget that there are real, complex people behind these typed words, who have feelings and problems, and hopes and desires, just like we do. It is too easy to fill the forum with garbage that just makes you look very irrational and ugly - with the quick press of a button.

That is why many forums have a 24 hour time between posting and when the message shows up… moderated in this style to keep the garbage down to a minimum.

But it is censorship, and this forum doesn’t believe in over the top censorship. Because of that it behooves all of us to do our utmost to temper our responses, take a deep breath and choose to respond or not respond… when our heads are clear.

Diane

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**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 6:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/396 "2009-04-22T18:25:06Z")

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> [@diane999](#):
>
> Did I ever say that Garamon is part of any social experiment conspiracy???
> 
> I don’t think I’ve ever used any words like that to describe anyone. And I know I’ve never talked with you about Garamon.
> 
> What I said in a _private_ PM to you was that the forum is, itself, a social experiment… not a conspiracy.

Whoa, whoa whoa -

This is what I was referencing:

> [@Diane999](#):
>
> I think Garamon thanks me more than Lor.
> 
> Garamon added me to his/her friend’s list because I asked him/her to do so after seeing so many thank yous from him/her. It was probably the same for Lor.
> 
> There are almost 10,000 members on this forum. Not everyone posts.
> 
> I think you are being a bit paranoid. _ **Personally, I think Garamon is Mike Harris. 😃** _
> 
> Diane

It was tongue in cheek (hence the wink) and meant to convey a light attitude in response to your light joke about MHarris being Garamon. (or, what I took as a light joke.)

I was _not_ pulling anything from a PM -

Jasmine and MHarris have made it clear in _their own posts_ that PT is a kind of fun social zone/experiment where we all try to be nice and good to one another, and promote love and harmony. This is reinforced by Steve on a continuous basis. I joke, and make flippant remarks sometimes. I do it often in my “real life.” Where I work, we are inundated by conspiracy theories. My fav is the FBI agent we have reading everyone’s email. As such, “conspiracy” has become a buzz word around here - I suppose I let it slip into my “online” humor.

I was tapping into _that_ and making a joke about it, to keep things lite. I wanted to help bring a smile to Lor’s face. **That’s all.**

I was in _no way_ attempting to bring anything said in a private PM from you to me out into the open. I _highly_ value you and respect you. I would _never_ intentionally act to betray you. I am _very_ sorry that you made a connection that seems to indicate that I did. I apologize for giving you that wrong impression. I hope that explaining my reasoning behind the light comments I made helps clarify where I was coming from.

Perhaps I made too great a distance leap from one thread to another journal.

I think you made that connection. I don’t think anyone else reading it would have. But now, I am sure they are curious about what was said.

There was nothing more than that, I promise you.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 8:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/397 "2009-04-22T20:26:45Z")

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That Steve is a happy guy 🙂

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 8:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/398 "2009-04-22T20:31:11Z")

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@Diane999:

I wonder if a guy who is seriously intimidated by good looking women, could use TAH as a way to take some of the preconceived value they place on looks of a woman away. In the right balance of shyness and intimidation perhaps the guy would get enough “disrespect” for the woman to actually approach her. Not to be disrespectful or placing any value on her, but taking away enough of the false value he has already placed on her looks to bring her down to a level consistent of a person he is just meeting for the first time who has not earned any value yet.

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**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 9:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/399 "2009-04-22T21:17:54Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
>
> @Diane999:
> 
> I wonder if a guy who is seriously intimidated by good looking women, could use TAH as a way to take some of the preconceived value they place on looks of a woman away. In the right balance of shyness and intimidation perhaps the guy would get enough “disrespect” for the woman to actually approach her. Not to be disrespectful or placing any value on her, but taking away enough of the false value he has already placed on her looks to bring her down to a level consistent of a person he is just meeting for the first time who has not earned any value yet.

Ninja spray hotties with TAH!?

J/K except that I think if a guy sprayed TAH on himself he wouldn’t get the same self-effect perception towards a lady as he would get from spraying TAH on the lady. (thereby requiring the ninja spraying to produce the intended effect)

At least it doesn’t ring true to me that spraying TAH on myself would cause a female disrespect self-effect. Although it would be an interesting test.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 9:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/400 "2009-04-22T21:36:15Z")

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Its kind of the same thing as copulins though. On a guy they really shouldn’t produce results, but on me its like wow, super confidence-swagger. When I wear Dirty I am the man.

So maybe TAH could work that way too.

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