# "Venting" my Adventures **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Journals\ **Created:** [January 8, 2009, 8:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664 "2009-01-08T20:53:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 3:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/461 "2009-04-24T15:36:49Z")
Hmmm… I used 75mcg total yesterday of 91. Felt effects at 37.5, went hyper silly and happy at 75. I’d go for 12.5 with you… or less. 7.5 even. You’re pretty sensitive. P91 was silly for me. Totally happy, and definitely keyed to other people. There was an _intense_ desire to be with others, and the communal happiness was pretty intense. There was no enlightened feeling though. 😉 Much more silly than that! ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 7:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/462 "2009-04-24T19:49:35Z")
> [@Tigerlilly](#): > > Hmmm… I used 75mcg total yesterday of 91. Felt effects at 37.5, went hyper silly and happy at 75. I’d go for 12.5 with you… or less. 7.5 even. You’re pretty sensitive. > > P91 was silly for me. Totally happy, and definitely keyed to other people. There was an _intense_ desire to be with others, and the communal happiness was pretty intense. There was no enlightened feeling though. 😉 Much more silly than that! 10 or 12.5 Diane ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 7:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/463 "2009-04-24T19:50:46Z")
placing my order. thanks you guys. wish me luck 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/464 "2009-04-25T15:43:21Z")
business as usual last night. extremely busy. wore what i usually wear for success only i add lots of cops. this takes my “man smell” for respect to a different place. i wore 3 sprays MX134 (not all at once but spread out) 1 spray P86 12.5mu cops so usually MX134 gets me on a level of equals and i blend in. money is usually very good. last night money was _aprox_ 20% , _but with the cops_ space was closed, both genders very touchy, when being spoken to people were close enough to kiss me,lol cops seem to soften the man-vibe ---
**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 5:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/465 "2009-04-25T17:01:46Z")
Sorry to just cut in but, what cops and at what Dose Lor? How are you liking P86, I jsut got a bottle of it ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 5:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/466 "2009-04-25T17:38:36Z")
> [@djandarial](#): > > Sorry to just cut in but, what cops and at what Dose Lor? > > How are you liking P86, I jsut got a bottle of it dont you DARE apologise for cutting in… 🙂 im using EoW which i have a love-hate relationship with. their formulation is off and there is nothing that smells like a woman about it, but the fact is it works 🙄 P86 is a _great_ one but how would i describe why? first off, i dont get _even a little_ of the visual enhancement everyone else does. as a matter of fact, its my personal belief that a select few have genuine visual enhancement and all the rest only make that claim because they are LOOKING for it. your going to find whatever your looking for 🙄 anyhoo, i use it because there is a quality to it that actually has me feeling more appealing (and then i give off that vibe) than if i dont wear it. i cant honestly say why i feel more attractive wearing it, it just feels _good._ then i feel good. then those around me feel good. its uplifting,thats for sure. so i guess im liking it alot, as long as i dont go beyond 25mu. then i have yawning fits that are very uncomfortable. what dosage of p86 did you get Dj? are you using cops as well, or just referencing for a galpal? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/467 "2009-04-25T18:21:42Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > placing my order. > thanks you guys. > > wish me luck 😃 Hey Lor, I just ordered another bottle myself at 10.0 mcg per spray. I have been through 3 bottles and I am just not getting the same effects as some of the other reports. ☹ Gonna give it one more go with this one. Good luck 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 6:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/468 "2009-04-25T18:25:02Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Hey Lor, I just ordered another bottle myself at 10.0 mcg per spray. I have been through 3 bottles and I am just not getting the same effects as some of the other reports. ☹ Gonna give it one more go with this one. > > Good luck 😉 > > Tisha wow, good to know im not the only one. i kept thinking maybe it was just an old bottle? i always think some of the molecules have different expiration rates. some that i have are as good as day one. some are much weaker. i freaked on the last test but wish us both luck on this go-around… im going to get 10mu too. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/469 "2009-04-25T20:37:31Z")
Alo love, I am getting the 30ML of [P86@2.5mcg](mailto:P86@2.5mcg), the Cops were for me, but I am mixing up a 30ML with 2 drops and tossing it in a pharmacology shaker at the university. Yea I have access to a pharmacology lab at the university I am attending lol. I am them going to split it with a friend who is looking for more sex… married..but still wants sex… She does Passion Parties, and peddles Pure Instinct, I told her I had never tried it and she was like… blah blah blah. Well 45 minutes to a hour in, she starts playing with her hair, does the nose twitch, and starts adjusting herself. I am sitting right next to her. Her husbend is across the table, did I mention I am a ordained reverend? so she is sitting there and IOI’ing me to death, and I look at her and say… stop playing with your hair, so says “whatever I’m not” 2 minutes goes by, I say, “stop playing with your hair, it’s turning me on when you do that and look at me the way you do”… she was like drop jaw, you read my mind… Hey hubby was like… what did I miss lol, I pulled her aside and said… “just about 10 minutes ago you started acting differently,” she was like…perhaps… “I said, yea… but only towards me” her: “sssooooo”. I’ll leave out the rest, I didn;t quite tell her, but she loved my “cologne” and after words she grabbed her hubby and hit the road after a long full breast hug..love those 🙂 So I have some cops she can try and a togo of IS/B for her. I jsut hope she does not use this stuff on me… but I have a feeling she wants to get me back LOL… Her face was so flushed, from an application like… 10 hours earlier… that’s what I call a slow hit… Much love Lor, -DJ ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2009, 3:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/470 "2009-04-26T03:08:27Z")
The visual effect of P86 actually seems to have worn off on me. I must have acclimated to it. It still adds something nice to mixes though. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2009, 6:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/471 "2009-04-26T06:04:18Z")
> [@marty](#): > > The visual effect of P86 actually seems to have worn off on me. > I must have acclimated to it. > It still adds something nice to mixes though. yeah. i still like to add it to everything. weird when i cant pinpoint why ! ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 6:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/472 "2009-04-27T18:40:18Z")
I definitely still feel the visual effects. I can best call it an airbrushing - I don’t notice wrinkles, grey hair, crows feet or laugh lines on someone… until it wears off! 😉 I was talking with someone at a bar once while wearing p86. When it wore off, I almost didn’t recognize the person anymore. I am also called “young” every single time I wear it. I am carded everywhere when I wear it. I’ve had bouncers do very very stringent tests on my id - I started using my passport instead. ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 6:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/473 "2009-04-27T18:42:30Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > business as usual last night. > extremely busy. > wore what i usually wear for success only i add lots of cops. > > this takes my “man smell” for respect to a different place. > > i wore > > 3 sprays MX134 (not all at once but spread out) > > 1 spray P86 12.5mu > > cops > > so usually MX134 gets me on a level of equals and i blend in. > money is usually very good. > last night money was _aprox_ 20% , > _but with the cops_ > space was closed, both genders very touchy, > when being spoken to > people were close enough to kiss me,lol > > cops seem to soften the man-vibe Going back to our betanol talks… Earlier in your journal you did some experiments with betanol. Have you tried mx134 and betanol as a work mix? You seemed to really like the betanol effects (to a point!) and at one point, thought it was a key ingredient. I’m curious how the “man vibe,” as you say, of mx134/-rone would play with the betanol and possibly cops… 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/474 "2009-04-27T18:57:41Z")
> [@Tigerlilly](#): > > I definitely still feel the visual effects. I can best call it an airbrushing - I don’t notice wrinkles, grey hair, crows feet or laugh lines on someone… until it wears off! 😉 > > I was talking with someone at a bar once while wearing p86. When it wore off, I almost didn’t recognize the person anymore. > > I am also called “young” every single time I wear it. I am carded everywhere when I wear it. I’ve had bouncers do very very stringent tests on my id - I started using my passport instead. dammit !!! ok i will TRY to wear more than 25mu tonight. if i start yawning (its uncontrollable at times) yes its ME hollering from florida and washing that sh!t off !!! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/475 "2009-04-27T19:02:08Z")
> [@Tigerlilly](#): > > Going back to our betanol talks… > > Earlier in your journal you did some experiments with betanol. Have you tried mx134 and betanol as a work mix? You seemed to really like the betanol effects (to a point!) and at one point, thought it was a key ingredient. > > I’m curious how the “man vibe,” as you say, of mx134/-rone would play with the betanol and possibly cops… 😕 i usually wear MX134 with betanol. my regular money mix is MX134 (or TAL or IS/A) P86 EST cops betanol. sometimes i forget to mention the betanol because i have added it to my perfume and so i dont consider it “applied” lol. honestly, this is becomming my fave mix of P’s and mones because i dont have a bad day wearing them. ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 7:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/476 "2009-04-27T19:07:29Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > dammit !!! > > ok i will TRY to wear more than 25mu tonight. > > if i start yawning (its uncontrollable at times) > yes its ME hollering from florida and washing that sh!t off !!! > > 😃 Seriously, if you do get tired, eat high protein and high carb meals - pasta and some meat source. I did that and the sleepiness _vanished._ worth a try? ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 7:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/477 "2009-04-27T19:08:51Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > i usually wear MX134 with betanol. > > my regular money mix is > MX134 (or TAL or IS/A) > P86 > EST > cops > betanol. > > sometimes i forget to mention the betanol because i have added it to my perfume and so i dont consider it “applied” lol. > > honestly, this is becomming my fave mix of P’s and mones because i dont have a bad day wearing them. Ahh, gotcha - I knew you wore the betanol with the IS/a and the TAL, but I wasn’t sure if it was worn with the mx134. Did you just dump it in the perfume? That works? I seriously wonder what a “spaceland” attack at your bar would look like… with you as the mx134 ringleader. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 10:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/478 "2009-04-27T22:06:51Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > I have a theory about some of these uplifting, loving pheromones. > > You know how if you practice gratitude it becomes easier to feel love and kindness and gratitude? That is because we are acclimating our bodies to respond in those ways, and feel those things. > > The same way that being under stress for a while makes it harder to feel love and kindness and gratitude. That too is an acclimation in the other direction. > > I think with repeated use of pheromones, it makes us more like we are on the pheromones, without the pheromones. If that makes sense. > > P91 is an appreciative and loving pheromone. I think with repeated use of it one would become more acclimated to feeling appreciative and loving. > > Like my husband is acclimated more to being loving than being a jerk, since I exposed him to EST consistently for a couple of months. I have only worn EST three times in the past 4 or 5 weeks, and he is loving and attentive and acting consistently the same way he did when he was constantly exposed to EST. Now I only use it as kind of a _reminder_. > > So I think these kinds of molecules, P91, EST, Androsterone, etc., really do work a fundamental magic on those exposed to them. > > Diane Read around in Tater’s journal - > [@The "MAD TATER" Journal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/592): > > Tater doesnt just suggest your body thinks of the pheros as foreign (i.e. someone in your face/inner circle, who exhibits these pheros), he bases his whole phero theory around it. You need more water because your body suddenly needs to produce competitive pheros. If youre wearing sexual/respect pheros, you lose weight because your body wants to compete. This is why some pheros should ALWAYS be worn on the nape of the neck or the hair. The self-effect is adverse to your observation. You are a wa… > [@The "MAD TATER" Journal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/595): > > Tater will further speculate that Winifred Cutler sells Athena 10x for “training” purposes. Whatever the phero is, its a combination of self-effect and training of your body to make the appropriate complimentary/competitive pheros. Why do you need to wear her stuff for a month or two before seeing noticeable results? Because, especially if you aren’t properly hydrated (and suddenly deciding to drink water instead of soda, coffee, tea or worse doesn’t help), it takes a while for your body to m… > [@The "MAD TATER" Journal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/596): > > That means you can train your own body with very light dosages of certain pheros. Light amounts of EST over a long period of time tells your body that theres a baby or pregnant woman in need of protecting, and makes you feel good/capable so that you can protect as necessary. Realm for Men only needs a tiny amount of EST, just like youd pick up from a baby who is “around”. > [@The "MAD TATER" Journal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/641): > > The sense of urgency you get from [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) can easily work as a negative. I now call it Instant Cattle Prod. If somebody wants to do something, 25mcg is like sticking a scorching hot brand to them. Sometimes this means that a small thing turns into a huge argument followed by “I dont know why that bothered me so much.” Thats different from androstenone which implies that youre willing to kick someones arse if they get out of line. P86 is STILL the sensuality, TOUCH ME, phero but Tater is changing h… > [@The "MAD TATER" Journal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/648): > > Sounds like confirmation. It does seem to have a stronger, possibly more negative effect on women compared to men, Ive also noticed. Meanwhile, Tater has also noticed that P86 is a more specific MSG-style phero, like MEO-EST. The sensuality triggers on something else being around. Top candidates are androstenone, EST, TAL and TAH. I need higher concentrations so im hoping someone else can pick up where i left off on this one. Thoughts?? ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 10:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/479 "2009-04-27T22:29:35Z")
> [@Tigerlilly](#): > > Read around in Tater’s journal - > > [The "MAD TATER" Journal - #592 by MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/592) > > [The "MAD TATER" Journal - #595 by MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/595) > > [The "MAD TATER" Journal - #596 by MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/596) > > [The "MAD TATER" Journal - #641 by MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/641) > > [The "MAD TATER" Journal - #648 by MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330/648) > > Thoughts?? Tater makes my head want to explode. Diane ---
**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2009, 11:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/480 "2009-04-27T23:38:23Z")
LOL - for most of the journal, yes, I agree. I thought the above were interesting observations from him. The third link speaks directly to your observations about EST and your husband, and the fourth link is to p83 and more observations on its assertive/aggressive nature. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664.md?page=23) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664.md?page=25)