# "Venting" my Adventures **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Journals\ **Created:** [January 8, 2009, 8:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664 "2009-01-08T20:53:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 12:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/61 "2009-02-10T00:18:32Z")
Lor, you’re inspiring me to get a bartending license. I always thought it’d be fun being in the middle of all the action, under pressure to get the drinks out in a timely and professional manner. 🙂 Seems fun and exciting. I’m enjoying the reports, as well as the insights into tipping properly. I never thought about what percentage I tip, but I guess $1 on a $4.50 beer is over 20% so I’m not breaking any cardinal rules, I hope? 😛 I look forward to more. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 3:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/62 "2009-02-10T15:54:53Z")
i could NOT even wait to make this post. holy shit, last night was _awesome_. first off, let me say that it was NOT busy. it was monday nite, quieter than most nights, just enough of a crowd to keep me hoppin’ but nothing to tire me out. wore: 20mu TAL (covered me mostly,app was while i was driving,so mist was basically head to toe) 12.5 betanol (with a reapplication later in evening) 100mu EST 25mu P86 night began super quiet as usual. boss was super fun to be around tonight. in a great mood, funny, didnt seem like the weekend wore him out any. this is always good on mondays, as this is the only day i work alone otherwise. patrons were nice. like _nice…_ as a rule i dont get hit on. i am _the_ full time bartender there, everyone knows i have an SO. i am the taken one. also the oldest. the “mommy” of the bar. tonight i got hit on,repeatedly. i was told, also repeatedly, that i look better with short hair, and to never try growing it out again (bar was going through older photos, like last years). thats just _weird._ the way i look is never a topic of conversation\*.\* i serve beer, thats about it,lol. anyhoo, the vibe of the bar was that of a place i wouldnt want to leave unless i had to. oooh and the compliancy- no one pushed for more past last call and everyone was OUT by 10 minutes of !!! just HOLY perfect night. tips were 32%. life is good. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 3:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/63 "2009-02-11T15:21:24Z")
where did i go wrong last night? hmmm has residual P86 on at 25mu from very early in the day. didnt add more to the evening, that prolly made a difference 😕 wore my betanol - EST - TAL combo… ok i figured it out. i wore a dosage of EST that was too low to contribute. see, its cold in the bar. freaking cold. bossman has it set on 72 inside, but it feels like 62. i always eventually put a sweatshirt on, and that i think screws me up and covers my cloud. it wasnt a bad night, just not as lucrative as the night before. im going to try P86 in a higher concentration tonight, its uncomfortable for me higher than 25mu but maybe it will be different in the bar. guess i can always wash it off? doesnt wash off easily, if anyone interested in that little note. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 5:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/64 "2009-02-12T05:10:18Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > i always eventually put a sweatshirt on, and that i think screws me up and covers my cloud. Probably does esp. if you apply a lot to your … decollette … maybe more to the wrists and neck in the cool future. > [@Lor](#): > > doesnt wash off easily, if anyone interested in that little note. That is an interesting observation. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 4:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/65 "2009-02-15T04:57:27Z")
hiddeous night turned good. lets begin… driving to work im late. truck wouldnt start, traffic was rediculous. called in to say i would be 30 minutes late. bossman isnt happy. i inquire as to why. i am told that someone was supposed to show up 2 1/2 hours ago and that they would not be showing up for another 2 hours. no ones fault really, just a schedule mix-up. i pull into work and decide to spray 1 spray instant shine X2 EST 100mu walk in and the air is THICK. dont like this at all. attitude everywhere. an hour goes by and i am dumbfounded at the mixture im wearing NOT turning everyone into bunnies. WTF is going on? the “late” person is finally in, and she walks into the peanutbutter air. whoops, she wants to turn around but eventually relaxes and is now actually having fun inspite of everything. ok, shine is working on her. phew. for a minute i was thinking i was in that parallel world where pheros DONT work! 😃 interesting note on “late” girl : hyper sensitive to everything… perfumes, foods, ect. pheros are _perfectly fine_ with her. not that she knows that 😉 okay so bossman is still ticked off and announces he is leaving for a little while. this is how he remains a kind and wonderful boss. he knows when to get some air. i figure i have to fix this somehow, shine and EST didnt do their magic like they ALWAYS do. but why? _epiphany_ earlier in the day my SO comes home very early. i had quickly thrown on some cops because he was in a great mood and well the mood got better 🙂 uh, so if you are in a _good_ mood, cops make him lovey; if he is in a _bad_ mood, cops make him furious. did this apply to bossman too? was i fueling the already-bad feelings with a testosterone spike, despite all the shiny EST? i didnt know, but i decided to make a u-turn. i added 2 sprays of MX134 and made the decision this night was going to be in my hands. about 30 minutes after the application, bossman returns. mentions something about having an employee meeting (much needed anyway) and keeps to himself. about 45 minutes go by, and he is laughing and joking… with ME ! my help looks at me - shrugs his shoulders - and smiles. now bossman is joking with him. tips improved because i expected them to. maybe MX134 had something to do with it, i kind of assumed but it could be that attitude,too. before i left for the evening, bossman and i have a few more laughs. MX134 is a keeper. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 5:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/66 "2009-02-15T05:11:20Z")
read this on AOL, 😃 A study by evolutionary psychologist Geoffrey Miller revealed that the amount of tips lap dancers receive is directly tied to their fertility cycle. Compared to a menstruating lap dancer, who made on average $35 an hour, women who were ovulating made $70 per hour. Researchers speculate that men may respond to subtle changes in body odor, lip color, pupil dilation and skin tone that can occur due to hormone changes during ovulation. What does this means for non-lap dancers? If you want to meet a man: “Men are programmed to seek out women who are more fertile,” says Trees. “Always make sure to schedule dates around ovulation if you can.” ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 2:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/67 "2009-02-17T02:02:06Z")
I read that before Lor - and it may even be in the abstracts section - but you are right - it is very interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 5:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/68 "2009-02-17T05:28:42Z")
> [@bosshank](#): > > I read that before Lor - and it may even be in the abstracts section - but you are right - it is very interesting. im not a huge fan of wearing cops to work, but i have to be honest and admit some of those days are good for money. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 2:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/69 "2009-02-17T14:19:36Z")
i was going to try a new WTH mix that Diane suggested, but mondays are so quiet that i thought i would try that on a busier day. wore 2 sprays MX134 since this is my journal, i will opinionate here. it drives me bonkers when i read how many sprays so many are wearing on the board. this stuff can be costly, and more isnt better- its just a bigger cloud. my understanding is that for a signal to be seen as _yours,_ for a pheromone signiture to be read as my personal signiture, it should be kept close to my body. after all, if im wearing a huge pherocloud of 6-8 sprays , why not just put it in an aromatherepy diffuser instead? why not just use it as an air-freshener ??? and what sucks is that when you wear that much, other people in your “space” can be mistaken for the siggy your giving off. they can sig-steal. im reminded of those old ladies that wear so much perfume that you actually want to gag, and often i put a much nicer face on in front of them to conceal my displeasure- i go _out of my way_ to look like i am nuetral with it, when in reality im thinking my gawd woman! never do that again! anyhoo, MX134 is THE default mix for work now. everyone is nicer and money is better. i did do one thing different last night though- i added i spray TAA 7.5 oh my gawwwwwd, instant i-cant-do-math ! one spray. thats it. my friend M gave it a try. he’s at the point where he is asking to try stuff (mua hahahaha…) now keep in mind that he isnt a stranger to feeling happy for other reasons… instant smile. high. real high. i think he huffed his hand for hours afterwards trying to re-capture what probably left after 40 minutes. yes, TAA lasted 40 minuts minimum on me. probably longer, but i acclimated. i can see i will ant to play with this molecule alot more now. it really is a spray of sunshine. going out later i want to try TAH TAA Anol EST that to me is powder-pink with sparkly gold speckles in it 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 5:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/70 "2009-02-18T05:58:36Z")
decided it would be fun to wear MX109 to work tonight. MX109 2 sprays 100mu EST night started out well. sprayed the MX109 over the EST that i drive under the influence of (yes im a _nicer_ driver this way) imediately smelled TAL even though i didnt feel much of it. as a matter of fact… wearing this mix out and working, i actually got the attention of TAH and the lousy tips as well, even though i really thought i was smelling TAL. id be very interested in whether this mix had either/or in it. tips sucked from strangers, but they were wonderful and nice and a few were googly-eyed (but i get that with TAH) i did notice one weird thing- as a rule gals love me at work. im told im one of those bartenders that appeal to both genders due to my equal-opportunity manners and lack of role-playing. a few gals seemed uncomfy around me. they were polite and good company but i got this vibe that i ought not to tarry. i got stared at a bit, which is never my typical night. this female attention weirded me out some because i really cant remember the last time i experienced it. guys behaved. something about the MX109 changed what i usually get from the EST. EST alone and everyone has my back; EST and MX109 and only very close friends had my back, _but firmly so_. over all it was a nice mix of the two, not good for money but the attention was definately there. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 2:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/71 "2009-02-18T14:04:31Z")
I know you read the omg P109 thread … I wonder if the women did not want you to tarry as you were perceived to be a “threat” or something along that line …? ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 2:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/72 "2009-02-18T14:10:49Z")
> [@bosshank](#): > > I know you read the omg P109 thread … I wonder if the women did not want you to tarry as you were perceived to be a “threat” or something along that line …? i cant say for sure why i got the funky reactions from a few women, but i kept getting the feeling they thought i was more interested in their guy than just getting him a beer? again odd, because i go out of my way to NOT make small talk with that odd feeling around. i got my MX109 a long time ago. i never got the reactions the ladies on the MX109 thread got, their reactions are more over the top. mine are subtle. i dont think i ever tried it out of the house before, either. im not in a rush to use it again at work, but its cool enough when money isnt the object 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 2:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/73 "2009-02-19T14:26:06Z")
thinking im going to take a break from the forum-side a while and stick with my journal, this way the gals can continue to OD without my 2 cents 😃 here i want to talk about the difference between [instant sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) A and MX134 im going to be honest, and tell you that the effects and smell are similar to me (despite the neroli) and i secretly thought they were pretty much the same formula with just more TAL added to 134. last night i found out that for me there has to be a significant difference. wore 2 very full sprays of IS/A i have a leaky bottle, so it may have equated to 2 1/2 or 3. men loved it, women only 50%. alot of that depends on their personalities, with MX134 i had NO issues with either gender. money was good. with IS/A some women postured, like when a gal walks in wearing something revealing and half the women have to move physically in discomfort. i see that in the bar _alllll_ the time. now im in a baggy beer-tshirt and jeans, but instant sexiness turns that into something low-cut with a short skirt. alot of sexual-talk at the bar, from regulars who never talk sex. one regular made the comment: “i cant talk about this stuff in front of Lor,im kinda embarrassed… Lor c’mon i dont talk about this stuff infront of you… okay yeah so anyways…” and continued to talk about sex. purposely including me in the conversation. i thought to myself, thats a first. guys didnt hush and they were definatley more blatant. now keep in mind i have worn IS/A to work before, but always with EST or something to cut it a little. my body parts were talked about openly , as if it were acceptable behaviour (this is a beer-geek bar. we talk about how they make the beer, not what you make after you drink it). tips were either good or terrible, no gray area. now MX134 is consistant so far, steered by either EST for “im the boss _with love"_ or IH for " this is how it is and please let me know if i can be of further assistance” and uh , they do. so far im back to the pheromones that are appropriate for work and money being- but not necessarily together- : EST TAL Betanol cops MX134 P86 IH MX272 if im also wearing TAL MX274 " " " " " now what im really excited about trying at some point is: the P74 test mixes sunshine test mixes P96 androstenol.TAA mix i will have to be wearing TAL to still be making money while using these im guessing. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 2:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/74 "2009-02-19T14:39:52Z")
Very interesting report. Thanks Lor. > [@Lor](#): > > like when a gal walks in wearing something revealing and half the women have to move physically in discomfort. > i see that in the bar _alllll_ the time. That is funny. I have seen it too. I can even sense the disapproval in my wife without her saying a word … > [@Lor](#): > > now im in a baggy beer-tshirt and jeans, > but instant sexiness turns that into something low-cut with a short skirt. Only 'cause you are filling them … 😃 > [@Lor](#): > > my body parts were talked about openly , as if it were acceptable behaviour They must be tremendous body parts … I hope they were the ones who at least tipped well. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![hgirl1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/bcef8e/32.png) [@hgirl1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hgirl1)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 2:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/75 "2009-02-19T14:47:21Z")
Hi Lor, I tried mx300 yesterday with IS (I posted a small update in the forum section) and I read in your post that you sometimes steer yours (mx134) with IH. Could you tell me the different reactions you get when you used IS with mx134 compared to IH & mx134? How many sprays do you use of each for your work mix? I’ve read just about all of your posts and I really enjoy them and learn a lot. I am still trying to find my sweet spot without ODing. I think from my experience yesterday 2 sprays maybe good. I will try it again today. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 2:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/76 "2009-02-19T14:56:49Z")
> [@hgirl1](#): > > Hi Lor, I tried mx300 yesterday with IS (I posted a small update in the forum section) and I read in your post that you sometimes steer yours (mx134) with IH. Could you tell me the different reactions you get when you used IS with mx134 compared to IH & mx134? How many sprays do you use of each for your work mix? I’ve read just about all of your posts and I really enjoy them and learn a lot. I am still trying to find my sweet spot without ODing. I think from my experience yesterday 2 sprays maybe good. I will try it again today. instant shine and MX134 appears to take the leadership vibe down a notch, but not alot. atleast thats what i get. that can be fabulous when you dont want to come-off as the leader, but just that your going to hold your own. MX134 and honesty is so team-friendly for me. i get the wonderful reactions that i am an equal and respected, and the honesty seems to bind that with comradery. it gives a “we’re tight” vibe due to the nature of the gab involved. i would use 2 sprays of MX134 to one spray of anything else. OD 'ing to me is using the sprays all at once. i dont consider it OD’ing to freshen-up sprays _hours_ afterwards, especially if alot of those mixes are dissipating quickly due to body heat or weather. also what works for me may not have the same reaction for you because we have different body chemistry. the reactions shouldnt be too far off though, thanks to Androtics being really consistant with their product-line and strength. i dont others really take into consideration that this company is by far the strongest product out there that i have experienced. good stuff 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/77 "2009-02-19T15:01:49Z")
> [@bosshank](#): > > Very interesting report. Thanks Lor. > > That is funny. I have seen it too. I can even sense the disapproval in my wife without her saying a word … > > Only 'cause you are filling them … 😃 > > They must be tremendous body parts … I hope they were the ones who at least tipped well. 😛 actually their tips were same as any other day, my conclusion (and why i dont dress sexxay for work) is that i can dress or look sexxay and get a bunch of phone numbers/compliments and make the same damn money as any other day. some guys dont tip better because they know there is NO WAY your sleeping with them. i have always been clear there, i am _the untouchable_. this in fact has worked in my favor in other ways, and so my attention to anyone is a big deal because of it 😃 now if i wear TAL to work, i get LOTS more money. i think secretly guys like to get bossed-around 😉😃 ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 6:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/78 "2009-02-19T18:10:03Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > i have always been clear there, > i am _the untouchable_. > > this in fact has worked in my favor in other ways, > and so my attention to anyone is a big deal because of it I would think that in the long run - especially if you had any real self-respect and ethics as you do - you would need to take that stance up front. Becuase while the alternatives may pull in more money in the short run, there is a bigger price to pay on the other end. > [@Lor](#): > > now if i wear TAL to work, > i get LOTS more money. > > i think secretly guys like to get bossed-around Depends who is doing the bossing around … and how 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/79 "2009-02-20T19:43:39Z")
> [@bosshank](#): > > I would think that in the long run - especially if you had any real self-respect and ethics as you do - you would need to take that stance up front. Becuase while the alternatives may pull in more money in the short run, there is a bigger price to pay on the other end. > > Depends who is doing the bossing around … and how 😛 actually, i work with a gal who is extrememly flirtacious in her nature, this isnt made up on the spot, but who she really is as a person. shes sunshine and lollipops, but always winking,touching,grabbing, loving on anyone and everyone. she really can be a ray of sunshine,however… monday is my slowest day of the week and i make more on monday than i do on thursday with her, with a _busy bar and a band_. its not right. we ring-in triple sometimes, and i make way less. i tease her and tell her to go make me some tips, but honestly guys dont give more for the flirting (and this girl is a pretty redhead) and if anything, get more upset that they are not the only ones getting the attention i think. on the bossing around… men like it when i tell them how its going to be at the bar. i never really get any “what a btch” stuff, i get more " thanks, what am i having _next_ ?" bossing my SO around at home creates some _mighty fine_ tension, and either its fireworks 🙂 …or its a fight. 2 challenging alphas have the worst fights and the best sex. me thinks Mr Bosshank gets bossed around a little …😉 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 7:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/80 "2009-02-20T19:50:02Z")
friday night. im not even sure what i want to wear it has to count tonight because yesterday was slow (there was a beer-function in town at same time ) im thinking MX134 never lets me down but im more in the mood for TAH. i will be sorry if i try to make money with TAH though. friday night im surrounded by mostly men, gals that come in are usually with their SO’s i wonder what heavy androstenol and TAL would do??? hmmmm 😕 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664.md?page=3) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664.md?page=5)