# "Venting" my Adventures **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Journals\ **Created:** [January 8, 2009, 8:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664 "2009-01-08T20:53:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 3:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/121 "2009-03-04T15:42:43Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > I heard a rumor that MX301-MX304 are Steve’s ICM mixes. https://www.youtube.com/embed/Dm35i9pAYsY?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 3:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/122 "2009-03-04T15:46:49Z")
holy flashback !!! um i remember when that came out ! 😮 ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 3:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/123 "2009-03-04T15:50:28Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > wore a gorgeous mix of EST/betaA/cops > earlier in the day. > did not wash off. How do you like this combo, Lor? It’s been working _mostly_ well for me in the Instant Infatuation mix (which is plus TAH and P86), except at times one of my present TGs pulls away and draws inward. Catlord conjectured that this mix may be bringing some sort of guilt to the forefront, perhaps questions about his sexuality (the TAH and EST making him feel soft, the betanol forcing him to face it). I don’t know, he doesn’t set off my gaydar, but he _has_ started some interesting conversations with me recently about homosexuality. Did I think it was “in the genes”, etc. What’s your view? Have you seen anything similar? ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 3:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/124 "2009-03-04T15:58:47Z")
> [@ariadne](#): > > How do you like this combo, Lor? It’s been working _mostly_ well for me in the Instant Infatuation mix (which is plus TAH and P86), except at times one of my present TGs pulls away and draws inward. Catlord conjectured that this mix may be bringing some sort of guilt to the forefront, perhaps questions about his sexuality (the TAH and EST making him feel soft, the betanol forcing him to face it). I don’t know, he doesn’t set off my gaydar, but he _has_ started some interesting conversations with me recently about homosexuality. Did I think it was “in the genes”, etc. > > What’s your view? Have you seen anything similar? i am an EST/TAH fiend and i have not seen anything in that direction. drawing inward might be his reaction to needing to be the lead, because TAH/EST allows you to be passively in control. the softer you requires someone to lead the dance, and he may not be confident in that direction. i know a few men who have flirted with homosexuality but then settled down with a woman because she was a soulmate, not because she was a woman. im not getting this feeling from your situation, unless he is feeling it out on you to see whats acceptable? nothing pulls in a definate direction from what i have heard from you. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 3:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/125 "2009-03-04T15:59:54Z")
oh and for the record i ADORE this combo. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![CookieGirl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cookiegirl/32/1379_2.png) [@CookieGirl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CookieGirl)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 5:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/126 "2009-03-04T17:29:18Z")
Wow ! Anyone who isn’t convinced of the power of phero’s needs to read this 😛 Loved it How were tips after this mix ? ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 5:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/127 "2009-03-04T17:38:22Z")
> [@CookieGirl](#): > > Wow ! Anyone who isn’t convinced of the power of phero’s needs to read this 😛 Loved it > How were tips after this mix ? tips were at exactly to the penny 25% not the best tips, but certainly far from worst in this economy. 20% is fair, meaning service was good. 25% equates to people having a good time and sharing the love 30+% equates to i-had-the-best-time-everrrr 10% as does happen, means they are dumbasses that will be served when i get around to it 😃 i sound bitchy about it because i go out of my way to entertain, and make them leave feeling wonderful. not so wonderful that they forget im living on this ! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![CookieGirl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cookiegirl/32/1379_2.png) [@CookieGirl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CookieGirl)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 6:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/128 "2009-03-04T18:17:05Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > i sound bitchy about it because i go out of my way to entertain, and make them leave feeling wonderful. > not so wonderful that they forget im living on this ! 😃 I haven’t heard of a single bartender spraying expensive phero’s on me to insure I have a good time. Bitchiness is the last thing on my mind.😛 However I am shocked to find out that TAL works better than TAH does, for tipping. I cant understand the mentality behind it. ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/129 "2009-03-04T18:30:51Z")
> [@CookieGirl](#): > > I haven’t heard of a single bartender spraying expensive phero’s on me to insure I have a good time. Bitchiness is the last thing on my mind.😛 > > However I am shocked to find out that TAL works better than TAH does, for tipping. I cant understand the mentality behind it. They are paying homage to the queen (TAL) rather than groping the easy bunny girl (TAH). Okay, that is exaggeration, but you see what I mean. Diane ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/130 "2009-03-04T18:51:48Z")
it certainly seems that way,Diane. dont get me wrong, I LOVE me some TAH. I could be the _spokesgal_ for it. but TAL rakes in the bucks, and puts the boys at work in their place. im not the stupit girl who knows nuthin’ 😃 TAL might be where i have to go tonight to catch up with some dollars :o ---
**Author:** ![CookieGirl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cookiegirl/32/1379_2.png) [@CookieGirl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CookieGirl)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 6:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/131 "2009-03-04T18:59:32Z")
Out of curiosity, have you ever used so much TAL at work that your tips actually went downhill ? ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 8:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/132 "2009-03-04T20:00:15Z")
> [@CookieGirl](#): > > Out of curiosity, have you ever used so much TAL at work that your tips actually went downhill ? not yet,Cookie. my only experience here has been that TAL is THE tip-mone, and that when i have re-applied in the past to the point of OD, all it did was waste my product. no ghosting, no discernable burnout, nada. i dont like to waste this stuff, and it is in fact possible that i have caused headaches with the high amounts i have used, but nothing that was brought to my attention yet. i have used up to (but not usually,just testing it) 5 sprays of IS/A or 3 possibly 4 sprays MX134 (MX300 now) or 40mcg TAL in addition to other mixes that i have paired it with. i think i will wear MX300 today or create my own layering using my 20mu bottle of TAL will post tonight/tomorow 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 3:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/133 "2009-03-05T15:06:18Z")
ok, good news/bad news about my evening: wore: 40mu TAL (to wrists mostly,where they are in your face) 100mu EST (to body) i kept it simple on purpose. i really wanted to find out if TAL is responsible for crazy tips, or if it was a medley of overwhelment of pherocloud that boosted them. TAL was the star here, EST was to mellow-out the crowd, hopefully make others more receptive to the burst of TAL. it was a busy wednesday night. i wasnt feeling the “hostess” vibe i normally do from my mixes,and someone actually called me out on it. asked why i wasnt as “glowy”. 😕 tips averaged 25% i should be happy about that, but actually im confused. i have had way better nights with mixes like MX134 (MX300) or IS/A soooo… whats missing??? TAL obviously is a big player in my tips, 25% is higher than usual. but something is missing, and its not the EST. i didnt have a crazy night like last night (and there was way more potential for that considering we had twice the people in the bar) so for the element of “crazy” , BETAnol must be added. not sure if betanol is a big player in tips. didnt notice a tip surge on _crazy night_. i will have to work this out. no big hits with anyone in particular, was asked a few times if i was the owner of the establishment (my answer is always: no, i just walk around like i am 😃) conclusion is that TAL should be added to mixes, but used alone lacks a friendship/buddy/lover vibe. ---
**Author:** ![CookieGirl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cookiegirl/32/1379_2.png) [@CookieGirl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CookieGirl)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 12:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/134 "2009-03-06T00:35:05Z")
I loved this post 🙂 You sound like an everyday Nancy Drew trying to find out what makes that your mixes tick. I’ve been very curious about the reasoning behind the success of your tip mixes - especially suspicious of TAL. It’s surprising to see that betanol may be the mystery suspect pulling all the strings from the back. ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 4:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/135 "2009-03-06T04:26:30Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > ok, good news/bad news about my evening: > > wore: > > 40mu TAL (to wrists mostly,where they are in your face) > 100mu EST (to body) > > i kept it simple on purpose. > > i really wanted to find out if TAL is responsible for crazy tips, or if it was a medley of overwhelment of pherocloud that boosted them. > > TAL was the star here, > EST was to mellow-out the crowd, > hopefully make others more receptive to the burst of TAL. > > it was a busy wednesday night. > > i wasnt feeling the “hostess” vibe i normally do from my mixes,and someone actually called me out on it. > asked why i wasnt as “glowy”. > 😕 > > tips averaged 25% > > i should be happy about that, > but actually im confused. > i have had way better nights with mixes like MX134 (MX300) > or > IS/A > > soooo… > whats missing??? > > TAL obviously is a big player in my tips, > 25% is higher than usual. > > but something is missing, and its not the EST. > > i didnt have a crazy night like last night (and there was way more potential for that considering we had twice the people in the bar) > so > for the element of “crazy” , BETAnol must be added. > not sure if betanol is a big player in tips. > > didnt notice a tip surge on _crazy night_. > > i will have to work this out. > > no big hits with anyone in particular, > was asked a few times if i was the owner of the establishment > (my answer is always: no, i just walk around like i am 😃) > > conclusion is > that TAL should be added to mixes, > but used alone lacks a friendship/buddy/lover vibe. Perhaps you have stumbled upon a “money mix” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 1:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/136 "2009-03-06T13:59:50Z")
last night wore: betanol. yep,thats it. for the first hour or two, then i gave up and went crazy with my IS/A because i wanted a TAL mix but didnt have my MX300 handy :o 4 sprays IS/A 1 spray betanol 12.5 tonight was really cool. we had a beer tasting with one of the founders of Widmere Brewery,Oregon. Mr Kurt Widmere was present, gave a mini intro to his beer and how it came to be, and passed out samples. really liked his beer- Widmere Hefeweisen Drop top amber Drifter pale ale sadly, i didnt get Broken Halo IPA. place was way busy, and being out on the floor occasionally put alot of people in touch with my pherocloud. i had a few comments on the place running smoothly for me being there, and i liked other’s perception that i kept things together. i think i would have preffered MX300 on this particular day. wasnt wanting to be sexxay Lor, wanted I-own-the-place Lor 😃 overall the night was a sucess for the bar, not so much for tips. free beer free food = no tip. i know thats not right, but thats life and the way it is as a rule. i think i will keep IS/A for being out and about, and MX300 for the bar. ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 6:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/137 "2009-03-06T18:45:26Z")
So, do you think the betanol might have had something to do with the low tips? ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 3:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/138 "2009-03-07T15:53:10Z")
> [@Sillykitty](#): > > So, do you think the betanol might have had something to do with the low tips? i actually think betanol increases tips 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 4:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/139 "2009-03-07T16:00:15Z")
last night i just wanted to get through work. we had a huge day yesterday and im still running on fumes with little sleep, so i did not try for a money mix. i wore in traffic to work: 25mu unfragranced TAH let me tell you- i dont know where TAH gets scraped from on a woman, but its natural smell is powdery and light, its a wonderful all-by-itself smell. LOVE IT. TAH is definately good for people who find themselves in traffic and with people who dont think traffic signals are necessary. Im in a place where people weave in and out of busy roads with dump-trucks even. crazy. so i get to work, and just let the TAH do its thing. pleasant night. add MX135, 2 sprays, and moods improve. uneventful except i think _more_ people wanted to hug goodbye (remember,hippy-environment) and this is _not_ gender-specific. tips,btw, were only mediochre. ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 4:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664/140 "2009-03-07T16:23:59Z")
I totally agree re: TAH. I love the stuff. I have a 2.5mcg and a 10mcg bottle, both unscented, and they both smell divine. Not overpowering, but just really nice and soothing. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664.md?page=6) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/venting-my-adventures/24664.md?page=8)