# Very Curious and Interested... **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [January 18, 2009, 3:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/very-curious-and-interested/25027 "2009-01-18T03:32:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Islandhopper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@Islandhopper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Islandhopper)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 3:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/very-curious-and-interested/25027/1 "2009-01-18T03:32:16Z")
hello all, i have been very fascinated with [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/).. my main experience with pheromones was with my favorite perfume Andron by jovan… i wish i knew what kind of pheromones were in that perfume and bummed that you cant find it anywhere… i like to mix up differnt concoctions from cooking recipes, to hair colors and quite the creator when it comes to mixing things up and am so very interested in the science part of pheromones and how it all works… also have so many questions.. i’m am having more fun in reading the info that is out on this site as to to the responses that some pheromones cause… i am looking very forward to using the advice out there and also experimenting the pheromones and also any cover fragrances.. i have purchased perfect 10 from somewhere else but i havent had much response and so i guess i may need to spray more.. i am also interested in cover fragrances as well…looking forward to absorbing information.. Islandhopper ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 3:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/very-curious-and-interested/25027/2 "2009-01-18T03:38:44Z")
Hi Islandhopper! I’ve become a mixing enthusiast myself - but with these things it’s best to start off testing the components out individually, so you really end up know how best to mix. What is Perfect 10 (I never heard of it myself), and what aims did you have in mind with using it? If you don’t know the [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) composition of it that’s OK, what was the advertiser’s blurb for it? There’s possibly a better option people can suggest for you. You may be able to get it to work by spraying more, however more is not always better. Although it might work! Feel free to ask a few of your many questions in this thread. Particularly ones of the form “what works best for someone with **[X]** background, **[Y]** personality traits”, etc. these are the best introductory questions. ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 3:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/very-curious-and-interested/25027/3 "2009-01-18T03:44:37Z")
Hello Islandhopper Nice to have you here in Pherotalk so welcome on board 🙂 So you have tested pheros before but not much results, well it is great that you are trying pheros here 🙂 Ok firstly tell us more about yourself like your personality, what goals you aimed to get from using pheros here & what kind of effects you hope to get from pheros here so that we can aid you better in giving good suggestions there 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Islandhopper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@Islandhopper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Islandhopper)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 4:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/very-curious-and-interested/25027/4 "2009-01-18T04:30:49Z")
i just loved the results i get from wearing Andron by jovan.. i wonder what is in that.. i’m around people alot with business and home, and i guess i dont want anything too overbearing… more light and fun so to speak..more so in a social setting and then also i have been reading on EST and how that is suppose to be good… i am 45 yr woman so dont know if i need more of one pheromone then the other… i’m a little competitive, high strung and yet laid back too…so confused on the Tah and Tal.. i’m just confused on if you wear the pheromone to enhance what you already are, or to counterbalance what you are.. ---
**Author:** ![tfrankz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfrankz/32/468_2.png) [@tfrankz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfrankz)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 7:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/very-curious-and-interested/25027/5 "2009-01-18T07:28:17Z")
Hello and welcome It sounds like you found your way here and thats good. You will have alot of fun with these products and get hooked like alot of us on here. Maybe, yes you will!! Well I just wanted to say hello and have fun testing the products out. They help what you bring to them. ---
**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 10:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/very-curious-and-interested/25027/6 "2009-01-18T10:54:14Z")
> [@Islandhopper](#): > > i just loved the results i get from wearing Andron by jovan.. i wonder what is in that.. i’m around people alot with business and home, and i guess i dont want anything too overbearing… more light and fun so to speak..more so in a social setting and then also i have been reading on EST and how that is suppose to be good… i am 45 yr woman so dont know if i need more of one pheromone then the other… i’m a little competitive, high strung and yet laid back too…so confused on the Tah and Tal.. i’m just confused on if you wear the pheromone to enhance what you already are, or to counterbalance what you are.. Hi Islandhopper & welcome to the forum! You’ll find that there are a lot of knowledgable and helpful people here. Have you read the link about how to earn the $25 gift certificate? If you do that you can use that towards your first order. It’s easier for us to point you in the right direction if we know a bit more about yourself such as your personality, age (we have that already) and what you hope to get out of using phero’s. Are you interested in using them for social, romantic or work purposes? In any case, some of the most popular socials such as Instant Shine and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) will be great, as they will be good for all situations either as stand alones or in combination with other phero’s. With your age I do think you’ll need either phero’s that are a bit stronger in concentration, or you’ll need to use a few more sprays. This is because your natural pheromone production decreases with age. EST is great, and gives a cuddly and romantic type vibe. It can also be combined with other phero’s to steer it to a more sexy direction. As far as TAH and TAL goes, it’s basically a personality thing. There are several threads on TAL v. TAH in the ladies section, as well as in the stickies, there is one that Tisha started giving details on womens phero’s. Read about Instant Sexiness A (TAL) and Instant Sexiness B (TAH) in that thread, it’ll give you a better idea about the difference. I personally use both IS/a and IS/b…My personality is more IS/b so I wear that when I want to emphasise what I normally am like. But I also love using IS/a to boost my own personality to a more confident, alpha female strong sexiness. Hope that helps! Let us know how you get on with your phero adventures 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 3:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/very-curious-and-interested/25027/7 "2009-01-18T15:32:37Z")
> [@Islandhopper](#): > > i just loved the results i get from wearing Andron by jovan.. i wonder what is in that.. i’m around people alot with business and home, and i guess i dont want anything too overbearing… more light and fun so to speak..more so in a social setting and then also i have been reading on EST and how that is suppose to be good… i am 45 yr woman so dont know if i need more of one pheromone then the other… i’m a little competitive, high strung and yet laid back too…so confused on the Tah and Tal.. i’m just confused on if you wear the pheromone to enhance what you already are, or to counterbalance what you are.. I see that you seem to enjoy wearing the Andron by Jovan well you will sure like the pheros here by seeing how they work on you 🙂 Ok so you want to wear pheros for business & social right? Ok i would recommend MX134 or the new MX300 for your business situation. MX300 is a new variation of MX134 which is a success based on its good feedback 🙂 I also recommended Instant Sexiness, [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) & IO as recommended by Xiphoid for your social situation. Instant Sexiness come in 2 types A & B btw 🙂 Both are great attraction pheros as it has a lot of good feedback from it 🙂 Instant Shine is great for boosting self confidence plus it make you & the people around you feel great & IO is great for the ice breaker in conversations 🙂 I agreed with what Xiphoid have advice you on EST, TAH & TAL 🙂 Btw just to let you know that EST is out of stock at the moment if you want to get it. Well good luck on trying the pheros here & see you 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Islandhopper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@Islandhopper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Islandhopper)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 5:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/very-curious-and-interested/25027/8 "2009-01-18T17:08:01Z")
thanks to all.. all of you have been helpful.. since i already started my introduction to earn my 25$, how do i redo it to give it more detail..? is instant shine for the female wearer and also, does the phero effect yourself or people around you.. for I/H is that for females to wear too and what does that do for the wearer or the people around thanks so much. i think i am figuring out this site some… ---
**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 5:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/very-curious-and-interested/25027/9 "2009-01-18T17:16:04Z")
> [@Islandhopper](#): > > thanks to all.. all of you have been helpful.. since i already started my introduction to earn my 25$, how do i redo it to give it more detail..? is instant shine for the female wearer and also, does the phero effect yourself or people around you.. for I/H > is that for females to wear too and what does that do for the wearer or the people around > thanks so much. i think i am figuring out this site some… Hi Islandhopper! I don’t think you need to re-do your introduction. You have answered most questions in separate posts that’s all. Tisha will read through them all I’m sure and if there’s anything missing she’ll let you know so you can get that GC. Instant Shine and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) are unisex, so yes, you can wear them. Phero’s do have self-effect, whcih I think is partly why I love them so! The only one in my arsenal sofar that I tend to be a bit careful with is Instant Honesty as it can bring out a bit too much honesty if you’re not careful. To minmise the self-effects of IH I spray it on my hair and the back of my neck, that way it mainly affects people around me. I hope that helps abit, there’s plenty of info to find and reports on what people experience when wearing these…just do a search and the relevant posts should come up. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 2:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/very-curious-and-interested/25027/10 "2009-01-19T14:19:44Z")
Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂 My name is Tisha and I am the Phero guide and hostess here on Pherotalk. I am glad you decidd to join us, They never released info on what was in Andron by jovan but its believed to have been anol and rumors of it having EST as well which is most likly why such a well loved cologne was discontinued. Another company holds the patent on EST in colognes. Now you mention loving to mix, I want to make you aware that the consumer products are not for mixing together in the same bottle or with cologne. They are Balanced with the correct amount of mones and steering componants to scent ratio and you can ruin a expensive mix easily. Of course they will be yours to do with what you will but I just wanted to make that clear. Raw mones called experimones and putatives you can mix with but since your new I dont suggest those just yet. You need to have some understanding of the basic molecules first and how to mix and steer them at the correct ratio. Plus they will cost you alot more then they would the testing members, EST alone is $1000 a bottle. > [@](#): > > so confused on the Tah and Tal.. i’m just confused on if you wear the pheromone to enhance what you already are, or to counterbalance what you are.. I know its can be confusing, Mones do both… counterbalance and enhance. We usually go with enhance first. TAH is soft girly sweet submissive IS/B TAL is strong alpha confident IS/A Go with what fits you first then learn to play with the difference nuances. Dont think because one fits you best the other wont work for you. Most women can pull both off once they get experience Now lets get you qualified for you GC How did you think to look into mones and find our forum ? What is your objective for mones use ? What vibes would you like to emit ? I look forward to your reply Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Islandhopper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@Islandhopper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Islandhopper)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 10:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/very-curious-and-interested/25027/11 "2009-01-20T22:38:20Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂 > > My name is Tisha and I am the Phero guide and hostess here on Pherotalk. I am glad you decidd to join us, > > They never released info on what was in Andron by jovan but its believed to have been anol and rumors of it having EST as well which is most likly why such a well loved cologne was discontinued. Another company holds the patent on EST in colognes. > > Now you mention loving to mix, I want to make you aware that the consumer products are not for mixing together in the same bottle or with cologne. They are Balanced with the correct amount of mones and steering componants to scent ratio and you can ruin a expensive mix easily. Of course they will be yours to do with what you will but I just wanted to make that clear. > > Raw mones called experimones and putatives you can mix with but since your new I dont suggest those just yet. You need to have some understanding of the basic molecules first and how to mix and steer them at the correct ratio. Plus they will cost you alot more then they would the testing members, EST alone is $1000 a bottle. > > I know its can be confusing, Mones do both… counterbalance and enhance. We usually go with enhance first. > > TAH is soft girly sweet submissive IS/B > > TAL is strong alpha confident IS/A > > Go with what fits you first then learn to play with the difference nuances. > > Dont think because one fits you best the other wont work for you. Most women can pull both off once they get experience > > Now lets get you qualified for you GC > > How did you think to look into mones and find our forum ? > > What is your objective for mones use ? What vibes would you like to emit ? > > I look forward to your reply > > Tisha hello, i dont know if this is where i reply to you or not.. i’m interested in pheromones b/c i’m interested in human behavior.. i loved the response i got from andron… the one and only that i know that i truly could tell was differnt then any other thiing i have ever used… before i ask more question or answer more questions, i would like to know if this is the place where i reply.. dont know what the box is that says tracback… let me know… as i dont want to go on and on and this not be the right place to post.. i’m still learning… not sure how to find tisha123… i will give more details once i figure out how to post back to you.. let me know if this is it.. thank you, just incase this is it, i’m interested in the work related pheromones, the focus, i get so side tracked on a project, and the social scene.. i am very energetic, but private, and need focus .. i am interested in pheromones for the all over reasons… social reasons, focus, and work, and also calming, and hoping to spice things up with my husband… just out of curiousity to see if this works.. how do i send pm and how do i start a new post or thread.. thanks ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 2:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/very-curious-and-interested/25027/12 "2009-01-22T02:47:34Z")
Hi Thanks for providing more info. I sent your GC out before work so you wouldnt have to wait. Yes this is where you reply. I will give you a little forum run down to help familiarize you. To send a PM you click on the persons name on the left sidebar with the picture and a drop doen box will pop up. In that box you will see the PM option. To start a thread go in the section of the forum you want to post in. Lets say the Womens tips and tricks section. On the top left you will see a oval round blue button with “new thread” written in it. Click on that and type your post. If you need more assistance just let me know, I am happy to help. **Your GC has been sent** Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Islandhopper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@Islandhopper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Islandhopper)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 7:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/very-curious-and-interested/25027/13 "2009-01-22T19:13:30Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Hi Thanks for providing more info. I sent your GC out before work so you wouldnt have to wait. > > Yes this is where you reply. I will give you a little forum run down to help familiarize you. > > To send a PM you click on the persons name on the left sidebar with the picture and a drop doen box will pop up. In that box you will see the PM option. > > To start a thread go in the section of the forum you want to post in. > > Lets say the Womens tips and tricks section. On the top left you will see a oval round blue button with “new thread” written in it. Click on that and type your post. > > If you need more assistance just let me know, I am happy to help. > > **Your GC has been sent** > > Tisha when people say 2x or 4x does that mean sprays or concentration… and can i layer these once i get to know them more.. also, i’ve noticed alot about P134/135.. is that for men or women.. to post a thread, is that like where i can ask a question… ? sorry for all the questions, you have been very helpful islandhopper ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 11:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/very-curious-and-interested/25027/14 "2009-01-22T23:01:58Z")
> [@](#): > > when people say 2x or 4x does that mean sprays or concentration… and can i layer these once i get to know them more.. also, i’ve noticed alot about P134/135.. is that for men or women.. to post a thread, is that like where i can ask a question… ? sorry for all the questions, you have been very helpful It depends and I know its confusing. If someone is talking about what they wore and say they used 2X Ishine it means 2 sprays of Ishine. If they say I have 2X strength then they bought double strength. Best thing to do when not sure is ask in the thread. P134 is the womens versions of A314. Its out of stock under that number but they have the same formula with a new scent in MX300. MX135 is for women. Its comes in a chocolitini scent. Its great stuff. Centers attention on you, its sexy flirty sassy fun. The same formula comes in 2 other scents. MX235 cookie scent MX335 Grapefruit scent. Tisha