# Virgin-Cream **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [October 6, 2007, 5:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/virgin-cream/5883 "2007-10-06T05:51:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 2:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/virgin-cream/5883/21 "2007-10-09T02:01:43Z")
> [@Carrie](#): > > Geez, why would it need alum if the key ingredient is oak gall, which is astringent enough??!! 😛 > > That’s what the world needs, drier ladyparts! ☹😮 Snort, I do get a kick out of some of the products they sell now a days. > [@](#): > > I often wonder does the look of vagina change with age? My penis has definitely changed with age (become more veiny etc.). What about vagina? Hey Nbully try this for a younger looking ummmm manhood 🙂 [Welcome to Seduction.ca](http://www.seduction.ca/browse/item?id=277) Peniform LOL Just teasing 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 3:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/virgin-cream/5883/22 "2007-10-09T03:01:55Z")
> [@nbully79](#): > > I often wonder does the look of vagina change with age? My penis has definitely changed with age (become more veiny etc.). What about vagina? Yes, pretty dramatically unless estrogen is supplemented after menopause. Estrogens keep things “pink and squishy,” to quote our beloved moderator … and those levels fall gradually, starting by the 30s. ---
**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 3:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/virgin-cream/5883/23 "2007-10-09T03:17:46Z")
> [@Mtnjim](#): > > Good grief, you mean my smart a$$ remark was actually correct?😮 > > I think I’m frightened now!!! Hahahaha. I assumed you’re the one that found alum in the ingredients. I didn’t check, but a lot of these type of products do use alum. There is a limerick forming here I won’t bother to type. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 3:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/virgin-cream/5883/24 "2007-10-09T03:31:09Z")
Inkling I assumed he was talking about the ben wa comment. ROFL Tell me whats Alum. My brother is the scientist, he got all the brains and I got the looks LOL 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 3:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/virgin-cream/5883/25 "2007-10-09T03:52:28Z")
Grins. It is potassium alum, used in a slew of different things from tanning leathers to keeping pickles crisp and probably those really sour teeth disintegrating candies too. Persimmons have enough alum in them naturally to pucker your mouth if you try to eat one that isn’t ripe enough yet. It is in a few of the vaginal tightening products because it claims to contract muscles. Carry is right it probably would just cause drying. ---
**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 4:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/virgin-cream/5883/26 "2007-10-09T04:16:11Z")
Grins. It is potassium alum, used in a slew of different things from tanning leathers to keeping pickles crisp and probably those really sour teeth disintegrating candies too. Persimmons have enough alum in them naturally to pucker your mouth if you try to eat one that isn’t ripe enough yet. It is in the tightening products because they claim it contracts the vaginal muscles. Carrie is right it probably would just cause drying. Now I don’t know who to pity more, the women applying this stuff or the copulins crazy yahoo group women. eta: Or myself, because I may be completely wrong. L:oL ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 1:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/virgin-cream/5883/27 "2007-10-09T13:37:35Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Snort, I do get a kick out of some of the products they sell now a days. > > Hey Nbully try this for a younger looking ummmm manhood 🙂 > > [Welcome to Seduction.ca](http://www.seduction.ca/browse/item?id=277) Peniform > > LOL Just teasing 😉 Thanks, but my manhood looks a lot better now than when I was younger 😛 🆒 > [@Carrie](#): > > Yes, pretty dramatically unless estrogen is supplemented after menopause. Estrogens keep things “pink and squishy,” to quote our beloved moderator … and those levels fall gradually, starting by the 30s. Oh boy!😮 Do you know if supplementation with Estrogen helps in bringing it back to it’s “pink and squishy” state? How about the muscle tone there? Does that improve with hormone treatments? ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 1:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/virgin-cream/5883/28 "2007-10-09T13:47:52Z")
> [@nbully79](#): > > Thanks, but my manhood looks a lot better now than when I was younger 😛 🆒 > > Oh boy!😮 Do you know if supplementation with Estrogen helps in bringing it back to it’s “pink and squishy” state? How about the muscle tone there? Does that improve with hormone treatments? Yes it does, on both counts. Hormones are a wonderful thing, eh? ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 2:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/virgin-cream/5883/29 "2007-10-09T14:37:00Z")
> [@Carrie](#): > > Yes it does, on both counts. Hormones are a wonderful thing, eh? Thanks Carrie! Also while we are here do you know if estrogen converts back to testosterone in any way (possibly showing up as masculinizing features with over use for a period of time). We know testosterone aromatises to estrogen but how about the reverse conversion…does it happen at all or is it impossible? Do you know if excess estrogen converts to any other hormones? Thanks again! ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 3:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/virgin-cream/5883/30 "2007-10-09T15:29:04Z")
You got me there, nbully - I’ve never heard about estrogen converting. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 4:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/virgin-cream/5883/31 "2007-10-09T16:11:01Z")
> [@Carrie](#): > > You got me there, nbully - I’ve never heard about estrogen converting. How about a possible feedback loop..any side effects you are aware of with estrogen supplementation? We know testosterone supplementation in men causes HPTA shutdown leading to lowered testosterone production by the body. I think in men even estrogen supplementation might lead to reduced testosterone production in men since the body sees a high level of estrogen to mean a high level of testosterone in the body (considering the conversion process is just one way testosterone -\> estrogen) and shuts down testosterone production (the reason why fat people with higher estrogen might find it increasingly harder to increase their testosterone levels and lose weight). But how about women?? ---
**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 5:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/virgin-cream/5883/32 "2007-10-09T17:29:39Z")
so applying this does NOT make your penis bigger. A TIGHTER penis would suck… [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/virgin-cream/5883.md?page=1)