# Vocal training for a more confident voice with women: are lessons worth it? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 13, 2010, 10:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/vocal-training-for-a-more-confident-voice-with-women-are-lessons-worth-it/41700 "2010-09-13T22:17:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Phoenix117](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9dc877/32.png) [@Phoenix117](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix117)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 10:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/vocal-training-for-a-more-confident-voice-with-women-are-lessons-worth-it/41700/1 "2010-09-13T22:17:51Z")
Hey y’all I know this is un-pheromone related, and some of you know I have posted several topics, but I’m on a quest to improve myself so all the feedback I get is appreciated. One thing I want to work on to help me with the ladies (and in other areas of life, since voice tone is important to how ppl perceive you). I found this link, I think it was this site or it could have been the pua training website. [Want a Barry White voice? | RSD Nation](http://www.rsdnation.com/node/103259) David D recommends taking lessons from someone named Barry White, has anyone tried that? David D also said that by using a confident voice tone his techniques will work better. I hope ppl in this forum don’t misunderstand me. I’m not using [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) just to get a girl, but I think they can help me have more confidence, and not let ppl push me around. I know I am a one-of-a kind guy, and I just need a little boost. Ppl have made fun of me (in a hurtful way) about my voice so I want to try to see if I can develop a more confident voice tone. Also I do have a habit of smoking (marijuana) about 2-3 times a week, is this something I need to cut out if I want a confident voice? Thanks Chris ---
**Author:** ![rolandcubed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@rolandcubed](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rolandcubed)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 11:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/vocal-training-for-a-more-confident-voice-with-women-are-lessons-worth-it/41700/2 "2010-09-13T23:19:49Z")
Hey, I wouldn’t worry about your voice and voice lessons with barry white, unless he’s some famous singer or vocal trainer. The secret to having a voice which resonates is just to speak from your stomach instead of your throat. Singers do this while singing, and it’s not the prettiest sight since they really bulge their stomachs out there to properly support their voice! And if you’re honest with your intentions, i don’t think anyone will “misunderstand” or judge you even at all. We all have goals that we would like and getting a girl with the assistance of pheromones is nothing to have shame for. Also about that smoking thing… you’re fine. I will go ahead and disagree with anyone who thinks that smoking will affect your voice in terms of how confident you can make yourself sound. As long as you properly support your voice, you’re good (think about how little kids scream all the time, they support themselves properly). ---
**Author:** ![MVKBUGATTI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@MVKBUGATTI](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MVKBUGATTI)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 2:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/vocal-training-for-a-more-confident-voice-with-women-are-lessons-worth-it/41700/3 "2010-09-14T02:22:39Z")
> [@Phoenix117](#): > > Also I do have a habit of smoking (marijuana) about 2-3 times a week, is this something I need to cut out if I want a confident voice? Chris, follow your Intuition: many people have conditioned themselves not to. We deny our gut reactions because we think we aren’t as reliable as or rational when we are face with uncertainty. MVKBUGATTI ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix117](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9dc877/32.png) [@Phoenix117](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix117)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 2:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/vocal-training-for-a-more-confident-voice-with-women-are-lessons-worth-it/41700/4 "2010-09-14T02:35:57Z")
> [@rolandcubed](#): > > Hey, > I wouldn’t worry about your voice and voice lessons with barry white, unless he’s some famous singer or vocal trainer. The secret to having a voice which resonates is just to speak from your stomach instead of your throat. Singers do this while singing, and it’s not the prettiest sight since they really bulge their stomachs out there to properly support their voice! > > And if you’re honest with your intentions, i don’t think anyone will “misunderstand” or judge you even at all. We all have goals that we would like and getting a girl with the assistance of pheromones is nothing to have shame for. > > Also about that smoking thing… you’re fine. I will go ahead and disagree with anyone who thinks that smoking will affect your voice in terms of how confident you can make yourself sound. As long as you properly support your voice, you’re good (think about how little kids scream all the time, they support themselves properly). Thanks for the advice, but how do you speak from your chest? Is that something you worked on, and did that help with the girls? ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 3:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/vocal-training-for-a-more-confident-voice-with-women-are-lessons-worth-it/41700/5 "2010-09-14T03:53:54Z")
Barry White was a famous black singer from the 70’s, he sang a lot of slow songs about love and sex. Known for having a very deep baritone voice, it actually used to be a cliche that playing a Barry White record on a date was a sure fire way to set the mood for sex. ---
**Author:** ![empath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/empath/32/2351_2.png) [@empath](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/empath)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 2:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/vocal-training-for-a-more-confident-voice-with-women-are-lessons-worth-it/41700/6 "2010-09-14T14:09:16Z")
Confidence can sky rocket if you stop smoking so much dope too… I don’t know if you smoke a lot or not but stopping raised my self confidence… just made me too murky-minded… also My voice always got a little weird and a bit higher when I used too… just a note 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 3:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/vocal-training-for-a-more-confident-voice-with-women-are-lessons-worth-it/41700/7 "2010-09-14T15:13:06Z")
I can’t believe you guys don’t know who Barry White is… Like Rad said Barry is known for getting women in the mood. He doesn’t just sing in a deep voice. He talks in a deep voice. There is a theory that says that men with deeper voices are more in control and more Alpha like. Think about it. When boys become men their voices change. One thing I personally noticed when using A314 was a deeper voice. I don’t know if anyone else got that. I also agree with empath. When I’m around people that smoke weed they have less confidence and higher voices. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix117](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9dc877/32.png) [@Phoenix117](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix117)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 9:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/vocal-training-for-a-more-confident-voice-with-women-are-lessons-worth-it/41700/8 "2010-09-14T21:29:08Z")
> [@JosieWilder](#): > > I can’t believe you guys don’t know who Barry White is… > Like Rad said Barry is known for getting women in the mood. He doesn’t just sing in a deep voice. He talks in a deep voice. > > There is a theory that says that men with deeper voices are more in control and more Alpha like. Think about it. When boys become men their voices change. One thing I personally noticed when using A314 was a deeper voice. I don’t know if anyone else got that. > > I also agree with empath. When I’m around people that smoke weed they have less confidence and higher voices. Josie, thanks for the input, I need to have more confidence not just for the girls, but because I want to be a university professor one day, and I have other goals and people I need to impress. Does White have vocal lessons? Is there a way to deepen my voice, or can A314 do that naturally? Thanks -Chris 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![rolandcubed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@rolandcubed](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rolandcubed)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 10:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/vocal-training-for-a-more-confident-voice-with-women-are-lessons-worth-it/41700/9 "2010-09-14T22:20:10Z")
I knew of him via a simpsons episode. Also, you just need to speak from your stomach, it’s not an issue of helping you with women so much as a health issue when it comes to the strain on your throat. But this isn’t a big deal either. look up some vocal lessons and they all teach you immediately proper breath control.