# W/prod works best on White Caucasian Woman and girls on Extacy **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 25, 2008, 1:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/w-prod-works-best-on-white-caucasian-woman-and-girls-on-extacy/14382 "2008-06-25T01:06:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Kbizzy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kbizzy/32/166_2.png) [@Kbizzy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kbizzy)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 1:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/w-prod-works-best-on-white-caucasian-woman-and-girls-on-extacy/14382/1 "2008-06-25T01:06:50Z")
I already decided to purchase the Ammo, and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) to start off with b/c I am a newbie. Looking for advice on more products. I want to experiment on reactions from white Caucasian woman. _Now don’t get me wrong I love all races_ but have only dated a few white woman. I see that a lot of people on the forum have been talking about what attracts Asian woman and just wanted to know if there is something for others. **In fact me and others I suppose are wanting to know what products have the most impact on certain races.** I am drug free and only stick to alcohol (I promise) however I am always in the night club scene. There is a lot of extacy involved at these parties and I hear that this drug enhances all of your senses to the max. **This means that girls would flock to you right if you were wearing the right product?** ---
**Author:** ![sharkboy42003](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkboy42003/32/2157_2.png) [@sharkboy42003](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkboy42003)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 1:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/w-prod-works-best-on-white-caucasian-woman-and-girls-on-extacy/14382/2 "2008-06-25T01:13:47Z")
lol wow this post is for a REALLY big experienced person by golly lol iv never been somewhere where extacy or even touched or seen it other than some dumbasses at the store leave weed and extacy behind…lol someone else care to answer this… ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 1:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/w-prod-works-best-on-white-caucasian-woman-and-girls-on-extacy/14382/3 "2008-06-25T01:14:33Z")
MX203 seems to work really well with caucasian women. For those on e… I guess it depends how fucked up they are. I don’t think any pheromone will be more or less effective IMO. Guess its kinda like alcohol, the more of it, the less [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) you need. 😃 But really, with drugs, I wouldn’t bet on a particular product to be better than another. ---
**Author:** ![Kbizzy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kbizzy/32/166_2.png) [@Kbizzy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kbizzy)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 1:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/w-prod-works-best-on-white-caucasian-woman-and-girls-on-extacy/14382/4 "2008-06-25T01:22:13Z")
Like I said.. I don’t do drugs never have. Extacy is just the hype at all of the after hours clubs around here. Just curious to know if pheros will have an affect on other people around me. I hope it does not have any negative affects… I do not want to get chased out of any club..lol ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 1:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/w-prod-works-best-on-white-caucasian-woman-and-girls-on-extacy/14382/5 "2008-06-25T01:26:59Z")
well I’ve never rolled before but when I blaze, certain pheromones will have different effects, some will have enhanced/reduced effects and some just don’t matter. The most notable one is Shine/TAA. It gets really enhanced but then the come down is pretty shitty. So if e enhances things, it may also have the possibility of enhancing the bad. I would avoid targeting or being around people on e. Never know what might happen if you’re wearing too much -none. ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 1:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/w-prod-works-best-on-white-caucasian-woman-and-girls-on-extacy/14382/6 "2008-06-25T01:27:05Z")
> [@sharkboy42003](#): > > lol wow this post is for a REALLY big experienced person by golly lol iv never been somewhere where extacy or even touched or seen it other than some dumbasses at the store leave weed and extacy behind…lol someone else care to answer this… Hahah… good point Sharky… never touched E either and the people I know who did it just shows why I’d glad I didn’t try it either. I knew a guy that did alot of E and he ended up in a mental hospital after going nuts, got diagnosed with labile mood disorder and ended up on lithium. Not saying it was the cause but it didn’t do his head any good and it does alter your neurotransmitters very much and heavy long term use probably screws up your brain. From what I’ve read of E it tends to reduce inhibitions so I think pretty much any pheromone combo that works on unaltered people would work on raving kids. Whites and Asians aren’t that different either, I think MX203 would work fine, though so far I haven’t had alot of really great luck with it. Everybody is an individual. I like Scent of Eros or [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) more. ---
**Author:** ![Denied](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denied/32/1018_2.png) [@Denied](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Denied)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 1:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/w-prod-works-best-on-white-caucasian-woman-and-girls-on-extacy/14382/7 "2008-06-25T01:28:23Z")
XTC is in most cases MDMA ([Methylenedioxymethamphetamine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylenedioxymethamphetamine)) If you read the acute effects you will disccover… > [@](#): > > Euphoria > Decreased hostility and insecurity > Increased feelings of intimacy with others > Feelings of empathy towards others I was in the scene when i was 18. Girls on XTC are easy to get but in most cases totaly waste. They go to club and get their stuff. Duration Time maybe 6-8 h. Started from 2200. then when you like to take her home it´ll be around 0200 to 0500. Then you have tu hurry, becourse if the drug wears off the girls will just want one thing: SLEEP My experience is, when the music stops they fall asleep. So my advice: 1. Spend your money not on girls who are on XTC 🙂 2. If you don´t like to believe that. Then try [MX203](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx203/) or Ammo or TUTH. Standard Products. ---
**Author:** ![Kbizzy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kbizzy/32/166_2.png) [@Kbizzy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kbizzy)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 1:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/w-prod-works-best-on-white-caucasian-woman-and-girls-on-extacy/14382/8 "2008-06-25T01:33:49Z")
Just to recap, I am not trying to score or take advantage of girls on E.. however just wondering the affects. Also here it is an older crowd that does E and all of the places are 23+ and up scale. It is not in any way for teeny 18yr old girls. I see everyones point.. great feedback so far.. ---
**Author:** ![bond007](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bond007/32/1076_2.png) [@bond007](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bond007)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 2:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/w-prod-works-best-on-white-caucasian-woman-and-girls-on-extacy/14382/9 "2008-06-25T02:14:40Z")
im saying give it a try… i dont do drugs either… but i was around a chick who had a bit of XTC… she didnt show to much difference… but she did have a little trouble speaking to me 😛 lol bond ---
**Author:** ![Kbizzy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kbizzy/32/166_2.png) [@Kbizzy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kbizzy)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 2:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/w-prod-works-best-on-white-caucasian-woman-and-girls-on-extacy/14382/10 "2008-06-25T02:26:04Z")
Wow 007 your product chart is awesome… ---
**Author:** ![bond007](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bond007/32/1076_2.png) [@bond007](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bond007)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 2:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/w-prod-works-best-on-white-caucasian-woman-and-girls-on-extacy/14382/11 "2008-06-25T02:34:03Z")
thx kbizzy… ur name is equally as gnarly 😃 bond ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 2:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/w-prod-works-best-on-white-caucasian-woman-and-girls-on-extacy/14382/12 "2008-06-25T02:42:44Z")
Okay, I’ll step up. I’m not a huge druggie by any means, but I do have occassional affairs with xtc. The first thing I’m gonna say is that if you’re not on xtc but most of the people are, I’d find that kind of annoying. Perhaps it’s the temptation to want to get onto their level, since you don’t do drugs, I guess it’s kind of a moot point. Either way, if you’re accustomed to it, then no big deal I guess. I’ll say this, don’t expect to have a regular conversation. Usually when I end up meeting a girl at a rave and fooling around with her, it’s never through a regular conversation. It doesn’t go, hey what’s your name, yadda yadda…it goes hey…and the rest is all body conversation. It’s like communication through the drugs, I feel her unconciously and so does she. So even being around the scene I have NO idea how pheromones would effect my mind. I’m pretty sure that I’m unable to process the subtle changes that I’m usually able to process sober, even just blazed or drunk. On xtc, your mind is just moving so quick, I really don’t know how to approach it if you aren’t on the same level. If I had to recommend anything it’d be Instant Shine, [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/), EST or MEO-EST from what I hear, perhaps some bit of p83 or p74. Social, social, social, social, do NOT ruin the vibe with too much sexual or serious products. I would personally put the biggest emphasis on fun and comfort, meaning Shine and Honesty. I would never wear any sort of -none. I’ll speak for my fellow ravers and say, do **not** ruin the vibe for them. People are experiencing very strong emotions internally and -none could push it the wrong way. Also at the come down, there are different factors you need to consider. Honestly, not that I encourage drug use among people who don’t conciously choose to, but the best thing you could do really is to understand the experience of taking MDMA and combine that with a comprehensive understanding of pheromones in a variety of situations. There are a lot of different, intense emotions from start to finish. We call them ‘trips’ for a reason. We prepare for them, we get ready, and go on trips. When we come back, we’re usually exhausted physically and mentally. Pheromones alone can be exhausting if taken overboard. It’s just a really complicated situation, IME, and a variety of factors come into play. I forgot to add, girls that often play with the xtc crowd are also aware that there are guys trying to take advantage of their mental state and get super defensive (esp Asian girls who are used to being ‘protected’ by their clique). So that’s another thing to be aware of. I see girls with their boyfriends or whatever getting a back rub, and this guy comes over gives them a light show and tries to get in on the action. I’ve had to tell many a guy to back the fuck off. ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 4:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/w-prod-works-best-on-white-caucasian-woman-and-girls-on-extacy/14382/13 "2008-06-25T04:24:41Z")
How do you do a girl on Ex? Easy. Provide another hit. This post is for entertainment purposes and is not an endorsement of illicit drug use. You really want to get high? Buy Spaceland and splash it on like cheap aftershave. -D4 ---
**Author:** ![mahalo\_silver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8dc957/32.png) [@mahalo\_silver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mahalo_silver)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 4:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/w-prod-works-best-on-white-caucasian-woman-and-girls-on-extacy/14382/14 "2008-06-25T04:25:31Z")
caucasian girls: my 2 best consistent mixes for Caucasians r, 1. mx203 2 sprays with IH 2 sprays over it. cover with DST Pheros. 2. p83 [12.5] 1 spray, with 2 sprays of IH over it. other: 3. IS/IFM/IH or IO -works wonders on all girls, but looking back on my hits, they were all with european blondes, light skin, blue eyes. personally, ive had inconsistent results wearing none products, even mild ones like [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), around blonde Caucasians, especially Anglo’s. [aussies/ poms] ---
**Author:** ![mahalo\_silver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8dc957/32.png) [@mahalo\_silver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mahalo_silver)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 4:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/w-prod-works-best-on-white-caucasian-woman-and-girls-on-extacy/14382/15 "2008-06-25T04:30:55Z")
and theres just a little somethin’ about IH taht maeks every formula less risky…its the perfect additive to anything agressive u might be wearing. its the “apple a day keeps the dr.away” of the [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) world ---
**Author:** ![Kbizzy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kbizzy/32/166_2.png) [@Kbizzy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kbizzy)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 4:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/w-prod-works-best-on-white-caucasian-woman-and-girls-on-extacy/14382/16 "2008-06-25T04:46:29Z")
Can someone please elaborate more on what [MX203](https://a314.com/product/mx203/) is and its effects? Could not find much info on the Androtics website… oh and more on MX271 ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 8:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/w-prod-works-best-on-white-caucasian-woman-and-girls-on-extacy/14382/17 "2008-06-25T08:19:17Z")
> [@Kbizzy](#): > > Can someone please elaborate more on what MX203 is and its effects? Could not find much info on the Androtics website… oh and more on MX271 `http://www.pheromonetalk.com/search.php` is the best place to start when researching a product, as the details on the MXes is pretty minimal in the store. This thread covers it pretty well: [MX203 vs. Ammo](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx203-vs-ammo/189839) -D4 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 9:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/w-prod-works-best-on-white-caucasian-woman-and-girls-on-extacy/14382/18 "2008-06-25T09:29:58Z")
Wearing pheromones around people who are on drugs or drunk is basically wasting your products. We have something like 100 billion neurons in our brains that send and receive messages from our bodies. The neurotransmitters in the Brain are effected differently by different drugs. E for instance or 3,4 methylenedioxymethamphetamine causes the brain neurons to release massive amounts of serotonin. This is the cause of the feeling people get when they first take the drug. But it also inhibits the reabsorption of serotonin and depletes the system of it. It alters the brains natural function and causes damage to the brain even at one use. The brain in a attempt to save itself shuts down other neurotransmitters that are not vital to your existence at that time. This is why most drugs effect your reactions and senses and why people on drugs will be unaffected by pheromones. Many mone users mistake the reactions that are caused by the drug with reactions to there mones. In actuality those reactions would have occurred whether or not you were using mones. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![K24](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k24/32/1513_2.png) [@K24](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K24)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 9:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/w-prod-works-best-on-white-caucasian-woman-and-girls-on-extacy/14382/19 "2008-06-25T09:47:18Z")
I have stated this in another post, coffee, alcohol and drugs all “supercharge” the neurotransmitters, its like asking someone very drunk to drink a cup of coffee and see if they become sober and alert, they won’t. pheromones work best around healthy, alert individuals. ---
**Author:** ![smoothplayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@smoothplayer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smoothplayer)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 10:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/w-prod-works-best-on-white-caucasian-woman-and-girls-on-extacy/14382/20 "2008-06-25T10:06:11Z")
[MX203](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx203/) is amazing for white girls. I don’t know about the drugs though. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/w-prod-works-best-on-white-caucasian-woman-and-girls-on-extacy/14382.md?page=2)