# WAGG- the mystery phero **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 28, 2008, 3:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wagg-the-mystery-phero/13181 "2008-05-28T03:20:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 3:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wagg-the-mystery-phero/13181/1 "2008-05-28T03:20:30Z")
I know this is an Androtics board, but maybe the members here could comment on what they think is in WAGG. I tried WAGG for the third time, this time with nothing else with it, today. I tried it going around with Mr. X out to eat and to look at computer stuff- he needed some things, and we went out to eat afterwards. WAGG description: not much of a description but it is said, on other forums, to be good for “lone wolves” that spook off women, and also good for social situations with men where dominance is unnecessary or counterproductive. “What a Great Guy” right on the bottle. Bottle: small 5ml bottle of alcohol/oil looking stuff. Says WAGG/Lovescent, and Lacroy as the manufacturer. Dosage: 1 drop covered with scented moisturizer on wrists. Physical condition: clean shirt, no shower, very little BO. Minimal deodorant. Self-effects for this phero seem rather “drug-like”, similar to [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), but without the lowered mood. I feel like a just took a Klonopin or Valium at first when I take this stuff. Slight tolerance seems to develope on repeated dosing. I noted some effects in Mr. X as well, as the car had the air conditioner on recirculate. Mr. X seemed to get quieter and the conversation was reduced. After about an hour, this sedation effect gave way to an easygoing feeling, and it seems to be a mild anxiolytic/anxiety-drug type response that is effective with social anxiety. The conversations were fairly normal and we laughed easily. Eye contact was easy for myself, and somewhat more common for Mr. X than normal, who is fairly shy and doesn’t make alot of eye contact. Mr. X had no suspicions he was under pheromone “neuroinfluence”. I hinted several times that I had been studying hypnosis and might have suggested to him that he was calm, but he never believed it, even though it was somewhat obvious he had been affected- before getting into the car to go shopping, he seemed agitated, had not taken a shower and had been doing physical work, and had mild BO. He gave off a vibe of androstenone OD, honestly. Dancing on the edge, I also brought up the subject of pheromones, and asked his opinion on them. He had no opinion, he said that it was probably junk, even though he knew of a company making a pheromone perfume, he did not believe they “worked” at all. I pointed out I had read a scientific study that gay men and women respond favorably to androstadienone- a “putative” pheromone secreted by men, and many men react negatively to it… and having a somewhat scientific background, he could believe it… but still had no suspicions his behavior was being altered by a pheromone. 🆒 Another effect I noticed on myself was difficulty with memory recall. It was poorer than usual. Stuff was on the tip of my tongue, but Mr. X invariably stepped in to help me out. I didn’t note any sort of blatant “androstenol” effects, and I also believe there is no androsterone in this product, but I might be wrong on this account- perhaps there is a small amount in there. I was, however, frequenty distracted initially and I seemed to pay more attention to cars going by, than to Mr. X’s conversation and he got a bit annoyed at one point and asked me sternly to pay more attention- to me I didn’t feel like concentrating that hard on what he had to say, at that point. I don’t know what is in this stuff but the effect is quite “drug-like”. Unlike Instant Female Magic, I don’t feel sad, but I do feel an initial mild-to-moderate sedation which is quite similar, especially if a cover scent is not used. I’m currently feeling the after-effects of a second dosing covered with cologne, and the effect seems toned down, but it is an alert but calm feeling preceded by about 20 minutes of mild sedation. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 3:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wagg-the-mystery-phero/13181/2 "2008-05-28T03:28:30Z")
I use WAGG-N from time to time. In fact I used it almost exclusively untill I discovered Androtics. I cannot say I ever felt any effect that was “drug like” or had memory problems - at least beyond my usual ones! but that may be because of the addition of the 'none. ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 3:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wagg-the-mystery-phero/13181/3 "2008-05-28T03:44:08Z")
Androstenone makes me agitated, among other effects (it, ummm… also helps me admire women more). Perhaps the effects balance out, moreso. I have never tried pairing it with an androstenone product. I used it in a coffee shop (1 drop on wrist plus lotion) one time with excellent IOI’s (along with [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) x1 to the wrists- protected from self-effects by gauntlet motorcycle gloves and wind, and 1x instant shine), but the caffeine kept the sedative effects away, I believe, and the wind largely blocked self-effects. In that situation androstenone just seems to creep people out, already too many hard masculine vibes are going on in that situation. I actually have a mild buzzing/headache sensation right now. I drank a coffee much earlier to kill the sedation effect, and that just produced this wierd headache, buzzz sensation. Very wierd Oh… and all the edits you can blame on WAGG. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 2:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wagg-the-mystery-phero/13181/4 "2008-05-28T14:58:29Z")
I suspect that WAGG contains alpha-androsterone and beta-androsterone. Cant explain much more. Its just something I want to throw out there, and see what others suspect.