# walc from scandinavia here...

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**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [August 4, 2011, 4:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/walc-from-scandinavia-here/51621 "2011-08-04T16:53:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![looifookmeng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8baadc/32.png) [@looifookmeng](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/looifookmeng)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 1:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/walc-from-scandinavia-here/51621/6 "2011-08-05T13:36:51Z")

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> [@Walc](#):
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> Thank you all for the welcome!
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> For my first order I’m planning on:
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> - Turn Up the Heat To Go
> - Instant Shine To Go
> - Instant Honesty To Go
> - Ammunition To Go
> - Alpha A314 Spray (1.29A)
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> (all at basic strength)
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> This is basically a starting palette, I’m just gonna try each one out one at a time as recommended, at different dosages. I’m buying the TOGO’s b/c of price, since there will be shipping it will cut a bit anyway..  
> I’m skipping the **Instant Gentleman**. Most of the girls I’m interested in is between 23 and 35 so I’m a bit older and don’t really need to seem even older. Also I’m already seen as a ‘nice guy’ (well-deserved so!). **Instant Jerk** just… well, I just don’t see that going well neither with my personality or the people I hang with. But I will read up a bit more and may change opinion later on…
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> I’ve read Strauss “The Game”, it was entertaining… but as I wrote my social circle is a bit away from the mainstream and general PUA techniques probably won’t work well there.
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> However there is a Swedish guy (Henrik Fexeus) that wrote a Swedish version of a PUA-book supposed to be more ‘in line’ with our cultural norms. He decsribes himself as a ‘mind reader and psychological manipulator’ of the entertainer and stage magician type. As far as I can tell some of the stuff is similar what little I’ve skimmed of the other PUA stuff but just more “Swedish people oriented”. I probably will read some other PUA texts also, to compare and because there is always something to learn.
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> Also, as a side bar, what about using phermones for other purposes than social effect i.e. with yourself as only (intended) target?  
> For purposes like extra energy in the gym, appetite suppressant for dieting and so? Maybe as a mild anti-depressant (yes, I am on an anti-depressant, Moclobemide)? Does any of the stuff at SmartMones work towards that, as a side effect or main effect?  
> I realise that I should search and read the forums more, this may already have been discussed..

Hi again,

Thats definitely a fair set to experiment with.Haha,yeah.Shipping is pretty expensive so i tend to order in bulk when i order anything(\>\_\<)Haha,yup.Should probably skip instant gentleman as it mainly helps if your trying to attract asians or younger girls.Lol,you were definitely wise to skip instant jerk unless you wanted to have that effect on people.Not a good effect unless your a martial arts expert or something(:-p)

Haha,i read the game too.It was a pretty cool book but i dont think pickup should be a game.Kind of like david deangelos stuff a bit more as he goes into the psychology of how women think rather than how to pick them up.It makes a fascinating read anyway.Could understand that it might not be suitable though for different cultures.The author you mentioned sounds pretty cool.Definitely should read it if it fits your culture.Quite difficult to read minds/body language and manipulate people though,takes quite a bit of practice.

For testing on yourself only,its possible but i woulnt use it all the time or your body will get too used to it and the self effects will diminish.Instant shine has been used as an antidepressant before but its only a mild one,probably wont remove all the depression unless its overdosed.Heres a couple of threads that have discussed it before.All the best and hope you have an awesome time testing out your pheremones.Should definitely start a journal so we can all read it.For extra energy in the gym and appetite supressant,i havent heard of pheremones that can do that but some of the experimental ones might but i dont know about them.I think it would be better just to take gym supplements that are proven to have that effect for those.

> [@Depression and self-medicating with Instant Shine 2x](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/depression-and-self-medicating-with-instant-shine-2x/7580):
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> I have found myself using more and more IS everytime I apply. I have depression and have my entire life ( I think its hereditary, dad and grandpa had it too) and I have actually been using [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) 2x as a self medication for depression. It works great. I like having an anti-depressent in a bottle, because not only does it affect me, but others around me as well smiley . I do find a need to reapply about 4-7 hours into the day, but not nearly as much as in the morning, just to refresh it.…

> [@pheromone as an anti depressant?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-as-an-anti-depressant/19938):
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> In some of the product descriptions, I saw references to “if you use on the neck or ears, it will affect you too and you may not want that”. What product would work best to lift my spirits while also using it on others?

> [@Can Instant Shine help my depression when therapy isn't working?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-vs-depression/27282):
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> I m going to take NLP courses since my psychologist is not helping me… [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) can help me with my depression???

> [@Effects on depression](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/effects-on-depression/36815):
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> According to what I have researched my wife seems like she may have a form of depression that hurts her sex drive. This is my un-professional diagnosis based on symptoms like sleeping patterns, lack of activity, mood swings,… Does anybody have any experience with the effect that [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) have on mental illness like depression or bi-polar.

> [@What the difference between IS and an antidepressant.....? Really..](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-the-difference-between-is-and-an-antidepressant-really/44939):
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> Instant shine puts you in good mood — so does Anti Depressant (AD) Instant shine makes you confident – so does AD Instant shine makes you create a positive feedback loop – so does AD While antidepressants create self effects the effects on others are also there because its impossible to be in a good mood without effecting others. Can someone point out what blessings IS has over AD and also if the mones in IS are found in AD drugs? dsouza

> [@Pheromones and Clinical Depression](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-and-clinical-depression/51526):
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> Hello y’all. Today I had an interesting thought that I would like to share with everyone and also get peoples opinions and maybe some more evidence to help me with this one. It involves the use of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) on and around those with clinical depression/bipolar/etc. Let me begin by what sparked this idea in my head. Today I went to see a friend I don’t see often, and she’s diagnosed with clinical depression. We usually get along just fine, enjoy hanging out and I am otherwise fairly accustomed t…

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