# Waning Effect with Instant Openness?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/waning-effect-with-instant-openness/58372>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [March 7, 2013, 3:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/waning-effect-with-instant-openness/58372 "2013-03-07T15:07:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![EGuz92](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eguz92/32/1475_2.png) [@EGuz92](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/EGuz92)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 3:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/waning-effect-with-instant-openness/58372/1 "2013-03-07T15:07:26Z")

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Sorry I’ve been MIA for awhile. Have been doing multitudes of reports I’m going to reporting on soon. But something has caught my attention:

Does anyone notice a severe waning effect with [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)?

For instance, I wore it for the first time in a long time standalone yesterday at work. Hits instantly. Every was crazy talkative to me, more than I’ve seen. Not a surprise though. But I noticed as the night progressed, the effects slowly diminished to almost nothing.

Here are some notes that may or may not determine the cause for the lessening of IO’s effects:

- I sweat quite a bit at work as it’s constant physical labor (I have come to notice that as I sweat more and more, I start ghosting more and more - assuming I’m producing mass amounts of pheromones that cause an OD)
- I work in a stressful environment, as the night progresses, I feel that people just don’t want to communicate as much, regardless of wearing pheromones or not
- I have noticed some “Cabin Fever” with mones - as in I get lots of positive hits, but after awhile being with the same person or group for a certain amount of time in a relatively small space (i.e., a room), some tend to start getting slightly irritated or I start ghosting.

It’s very weird what I’ve been noticing lately. There’s no way I can be that much of a pheromone powerhouse. I shower thoroughly before applying, and the hits are CRAZY for an hour or so, but then as the night progresses and I either start sweating from a) working or b) dancing, I see a clear ghosting effect starting to take place. Trying to get to the bottom of it, because if it is my sweat, I’ll probably start carrying some hand sanitizer or rubbing alcohol to wash off my own sweat and reapply pheromones.

EDIT: I’m aware the effects are, from what I read, supposed to last only 4 hours. I work roughly 5 hours per shift. Is pheromone’s natural diminish rate that intense?

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**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 11:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/waning-effect-with-instant-openness/58372/2 "2013-03-07T23:59:18Z")

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> [@EGuz92](#):
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> Sorry I’ve been MIA for awhile. Have been doing multitudes of reports I’m going to reporting on soon. But something has caught my attention:
> 
> Does anyone notice a severe waning effect with Instant Openness?
> 
> For instance, I wore it for the first time in a long time standalone yesterday at work. Hits instantly. Every was crazy talkative to me, more than I’ve seen. Not a surprise though. But I noticed as the night progressed, the effects slowly diminished to almost nothing.
> 
> Here are some notes that may or may not determine the cause for the lessening of IO’s effects:
> 
> - I sweat quite a bit at work as it’s constant physical labor (I have come to notice that as I sweat more and more, I start ghosting more and more - assuming I’m producing mass amounts of pheromones that cause an OD)
> - I work in a stressful environment, as the night progresses, I feel that people just don’t want to communicate as much, regardless of wearing pheromones or not
> - I have noticed some “Cabin Fever” with mones - as in I get lots of positive hits, but after awhile being with the same person or group for a certain amount of time in a relatively small space (i.e., a room), some tend to start getting slightly irritated or I start ghosting.
> 
> It’s very weird what I’ve been noticing lately. There’s no way I can be that much of a pheromone powerhouse. I shower thoroughly before applying, and the hits are CRAZY for an hour or so, but then as the night progresses and I either start sweating from a) working or b) dancing, I see a clear ghosting effect starting to take place. Trying to get to the bottom of it, because if it is my sweat, I’ll probably start carrying some hand sanitizer or rubbing alcohol to wash off my own sweat and reapply pheromones.
> 
> EDIT: I’m aware the effects are, from what I read, supposed to last only 4 hours. I work roughly 5 hours per shift. Is pheromone’s natural diminish rate that intense?

IO lasts roughly 4-5 hours but if your sweating a lot that’s going to diminish quite alot, also the alpha anol in IO turns to -none if you create enough of the right bacteria through perspiration.

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**Author:** ![EGuz92](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eguz92/32/1475_2.png) [@EGuz92](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/EGuz92)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 12:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/waning-effect-with-instant-openness/58372/3 "2013-03-08T00:00:22Z")

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Well that is rather helpful lol thank you. So it’s safe to assume it’s the sweat. Seems like I’m going to have to find a way to wipe myself off and reapply. Like mini-baths throughout the night…

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**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 12:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/waning-effect-with-instant-openness/58372/4 "2013-03-08T00:12:17Z")

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> [@EGuz92](#):
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> Well that is rather helpful lol thank you. So it’s safe to assume it’s the sweat. Seems like I’m going to have to find a way to wipe myself off and reapply. Like mini-baths throughout the night…

Apply a good hand lotion to your neck, let it dry then apply mones, this will extend the life of your mones as it acts as a kind of barrier.

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**Author:** ![Tilarium](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ee59a6/32.png) [@Tilarium](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tilarium)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 12:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/waning-effect-with-instant-openness/58372/5 "2013-03-08T00:44:56Z")

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That’s a good tip, Ghost. I work at the post office processing the mail. Very physical job and I while I don’t sweat a lot I do heat up and I can smell the mones on myself. I’m going to try the lotion part as the neck is one of my key application points.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 4:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/waning-effect-with-instant-openness/58372/6 "2013-03-08T04:07:01Z")

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Yup - Lotion can be very useful to help extend activity. It will slightly decrease diffusion and range though.

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**Author:** ![leon333](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leon333/32/539_2.png) [@leon333](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/leon333)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 12:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/waning-effect-with-instant-openness/58372/7 "2013-03-08T12:46:38Z")

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just say im using spray A314 with lotion,diffusion and range will be the same like oil A314 right? and one more thing can i cover with cologne if i use lotion?

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**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 1:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/waning-effect-with-instant-openness/58372/8 "2013-03-08T13:01:39Z")

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> [@leon333](#):
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> just say im using spray A314 with lotion,diffusion and range will be the same like oil A314 right? and one more thing can i cover with cologne if i use lotion?

It won’t last quite as long as the oil IME but it will extend its life a couple hours longer, the key is to let it dry and sink in before you add the mones, it will act as a barrier and slow down the breakdown caused by bacteria on the skin, and yes you can cover with cologne but why you would cover akuto is a mystery to me…love that scent.

Another good trick to extend the life of your mones is to add about 10 drops of dpg to a your Togo bottle.

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**Author:** ![leon333](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leon333/32/539_2.png) [@leon333](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/leon333)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 1:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/waning-effect-with-instant-openness/58372/9 "2013-03-08T13:21:00Z")

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these are really helpful tips,thanx heaps
