# wanting to get with someone! What To use that works **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 20, 2010, 9:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wanting-to-get-with-someone-what-to-use-that-works/36415 "2010-02-20T21:38:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![kenwoody2\_verizon.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3e96dc/32.png) [@kenwoody2\_verizon.net](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kenwoody2_verizon.net)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2010, 9:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wanting-to-get-with-someone-what-to-use-that-works/36415/1 "2010-02-20T21:38:05Z")
Hi, Looking to win over this special someone thats came into my life sence I lost my wife to cancer this past yr.. I really want to win this girl over to make her want me more than a friend/roomate. She tells me that she break me because of how I am. I’m a very caring loveable person thats just lost with out love… & sex too..lol She very atractive & find my self wanting her more & more everyday But, keep getting the I break u saying from her, Im a very skinny person 5’ 11" tall 130 pds. So, I know thats alot to do with it. shes not a big person 165 pds. 5’ 6" What do I need to buy to get her wanting me more than a friend. ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2010, 12:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wanting-to-get-with-someone-what-to-use-that-works/36415/2 "2010-02-21T00:31:26Z")
> [@kenwoody2\_verizon.net](#): > > Hi, Looking to win over this special someone thats came into my life sence I lost my wife to cancer this past yr.. I really want to win this girl over to make her want me more than a friend/roomate. She tells me that she break me because of how I am. I’m a very caring loveable person thats just lost with out love… & sex too..lol She very atractive & find my self wanting her more & more everyday But, keep getting the I break u saying from her, Im a very skinny person 5’ 11" tall 130 pds. So, I know thats alot to do with it. shes not a big person 165 pds. 5’ 6" What do I need to buy to get her wanting me more than a friend. For most of us on here, [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is a good product to help break out of the friend zone. Ammo is a good social product that can also be easily steered more sexual. ---
**Author:** ![bman123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bman123/32/2087_2.png) [@bman123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bman123)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2010, 1:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wanting-to-get-with-someone-what-to-use-that-works/36415/3 "2010-02-21T01:46:15Z")
well it depends. does she mean she will “break you” in terms you cant handle her? maybe shes being playful. i see that as an opening like if she would of told me that she will break me i would say well lets find out. if she was saying it in a nice way of saying youre to skinny for me then you have to work on her. so you have to read her little more carfully. try to think back. Most women are subtle and not very forward. you have to make moves. another thing could be when she says “i can break you” is meaning youre to sensitive. you have to find out what she means. that being said to attract her use: ammo= for attraction IS=To brighten up the mood to make her feel happy and good mood TUTH= turns her on. thats for sexual attraction. A314= This is for that alpha male male appeal. you may or may not need this depending how the relationship is with her. maybe youre to much of a senitive guy for her. so a314 may be need. perhaps IJ. this will make you look like those assholes you see in highschool back in the day that had all the girls. im throwing out some ideas for you to make a combo since you know this girl. she knows you so its not really a comfort trust thing. this is a seduction thing. get seduction weopons. sorry for your loss bro. and its good to see that youre back on the horse. my advice is focus on her habits. what does she likes? whats her type of guy? does she likes bad boys or nice guys? funny maybe? do what you can to be seductive. give her what she wants.🙂 good luck. ---
**Author:** ![kenwoody2\_verizon.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3e96dc/32.png) [@kenwoody2\_verizon.net](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kenwoody2_verizon.net)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2010, 4:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wanting-to-get-with-someone-what-to-use-that-works/36415/4 "2010-02-21T04:45:21Z")
Yeah I am A senitive guy, That could be 1 of the problems plus she acts like she tear me up in bed… don’t think so…lol The one guy she just went out on a date with was close to my size maybe a little more meat. he seemed alot more quiter than me. I like to talk so, maybe thats another thing. I know one thing she more relaxed when she gets to drinking. it comons her down because she a really hiper girl.. maybe too she don’t see me as a strong person seeing what I have gone threw. I ordered IO, & ammo world edition. will that be just as good as the reg. ammo? Was going to or tuth but it’s not in stock.. how long does it usely take till they get more in? they are out of stock on alot of what everyone here has been talking about. let me know if what I told u about me & her if there something else I need to order to get her wanting me… She always tells me i’m a very handsome nice caring guy.lol ---
**Author:** ![kenwoody2\_verizon.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3e96dc/32.png) [@kenwoody2\_verizon.net](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kenwoody2_verizon.net)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2010, 4:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wanting-to-get-with-someone-what-to-use-that-works/36415/5 "2010-02-21T04:51:30Z")
Sorry lol, I ordered a314 not IO. plus I ordered IG. don’t know if really need that…lol ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2010, 5:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wanting-to-get-with-someone-what-to-use-that-works/36415/6 "2010-02-21T05:11:15Z")
I must agree with Snoopy, AMMO would be a great first choice for you here. Since you’re older Heavy/Double AMMO would be a good idea. ---
**Author:** ![bman123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bman123/32/2087_2.png) [@bman123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bman123)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2010, 5:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wanting-to-get-with-someone-what-to-use-that-works/36415/7 "2010-02-21T05:37:56Z")
> [@kenwoody2\_verizon.net](#): > > Yeah I am A senitive guy, That could be 1 of the problems plus she acts like she tear me up in bed… don’t think so…lol The one guy she just went out on a date with was close to my size maybe a little more meat. he seemed alot more quiter than me. I like to talk so, maybe thats another thing. I know one thing she more relaxed when she gets to drinking. it comons her down because she a really hiper girl.. maybe too she don’t see me as a strong person seeing what I have gone threw. I ordered IO, & ammo world edition. will that be just as good as the reg. ammo? Was going to or tuth but it’s not in stock.. how long does it usely take till they get more in? they are out of stock on alot of what everyone here has been talking about. let me know if what I told u about me & her if there something else I need to order to get her wanting me… She always tells me i’m a very handsome nice caring guy.lol youre good with the stuff you got. rule of thumb is that if youre older you need to spray on a little more than average people. the stuff you got are good. actually great. use it to regain that alpha male title. at this point she thinks shes the alpha female there. take control. from what your saying it doesnt look like its an attraction problem. it looks like inititive issue. She is giving you VERY clear signals my friend. its becasue YOU ARE TOO NICE!!! she wants you to take her. theres nothing wrong with you. its that you need to go get it. understanding that youa re trying to get back on the horse so youre a little rusty. if shes hyper that means shes fun and down for what ever. its not that your not a strong person its that your TOO QUIET!!! look at the obvious. shes hyper, your not. get up there with her. the only way you feel comfortable is when she is calm with the liquor. meaning when shes on your level. nothing happend when shes like that. she already have the natural IS in her (lol name drop) so get up to her level. get on her playing field and TAKE OVER garuantee she will be attracted. a314 will help her take you serious. shell “look up to you” in the sense of “wow he the man, i better do what he says”. my friend all you got to do is make the move. AND SHES YOUR ROOMATE!!! ill tell you how i had mine. do a lot of flirting. maybe drink a little to have a fun atmospher. try this. play with her. talk shit to each other like you did before about ill break you this or you can handle that what ever. and maybe play wrestle with her. who know it might leads to something. YOU WILL KNOW THE RIGHT TIME TO KISS. then itll lead to other things. reason why the wrestle or play fight is because all the touching will stir up sexual tension and plus SHE WILL SMELL THE [PHEROMONES](https://pheromonelabs.com/). you got it in the bag brotha let me know how it goes. shes already in your house. she says your handsome. she says you cant handle her. which means its like saying “i bet you cant ride that bike down the block” and you know damn well you do. and she knows it also. she just wants you to prove it.😃 ---
**Author:** ![bman123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bman123/32/2087_2.png) [@bman123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bman123)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2010, 5:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wanting-to-get-with-someone-what-to-use-that-works/36415/8 "2010-02-21T05:40:26Z")
> [@kenwoody2\_verizon.net](#): > > Sorry lol, I ordered a314 not IO. plus I ordered IG. don’t know if really need that…lol oh and they are not always out of stock. most items will come back usually from what i seen is tuesday or wednesy. just keep an eye on it. stuff like RAW POWER no longer exist. i speak to steve a lot about products. but if you call him he will tell you a projected day when items arrives. ---
**Author:** ![zodiacore](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zodiacore/32/480_2.png) [@zodiacore](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zodiacore)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2010, 6:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wanting-to-get-with-someone-what-to-use-that-works/36415/9 "2010-02-21T06:24:16Z")
Okay, I know I am only 17, but I study advanced anthropology and physiology and me being a nihilist, I can break any “religious offensive” boundaries with my studies which means I have full biological accuracy with what I say, so i might be able to help you out. I will mention some of the information from my book, to give you an understanding on what is going on. That whole “break you” thing could either be a sign that she thinks she is more dominant than you or more commonly, she is giving you what is referred to as a “shit test”. Basically, a shit test is a VERY primitive behavior a female uses to choose who she wants to mate with. It is completely sub-conscience, and every female does it. These occur A LOT more if the female senses an alpha vibe from a male, she will then test the male out, beyond her control. If this was not too long ago then that is good. If you fail too many shit tests then she will want you less and less but desire can always be restored. If this indeed was a sign of dominance then it would be harder to get her. I need to hear the tone of her voice to know for sure what she was doing. In nature, a male has to be more dominant than the female or the female will look for a male who is more dominant than her. To be more modern with this I will give you an example… When there is a very attractive female, more men will try to gain her affection. This means more men will try to compete for her (this is obvious). What the female is forced to do is to sub-consciencely raise her standards to pick out the most dominant man. She will do a series of shit tests to find him. This is called having “game”. Once she has made her choice and they get together, she will do more and more tests to gain his trust and do more sexual shit tests. These I call “level two” or secondary shit tests. These are more advanced. What the female will do is release more hormones like oxytocin and prolactin, more than usual which would elevate her moods to see how the male reacts to them. This stage could happen after the two have had sex. It is never good to have had sex before this stage because it has a weaker effect (this is why people who just want sex never have prolonged relationships). If the male passes level two which is less common than passing level one, this usually leads to sex. This is the point where the two “love” each other". Since this is in the matters of male dominance, couples that contain a lot of arguments and aggressiveness towards each other usually bring the two together. This is another type of shit test, which mostly occurs during the secondary shit test. The aggressiveness between the two will actually bring them closer together than before, and if this continues, the two become almost permanently attached. This actually can be reversed if the two make less contact with each other ex. job, military etc. or if the two fall into a domino effect of negative reactions like finding out the real person isn’t what they thought they were, or they change, and the shit tests start over again. Every time a female gains suspicion of the male, they will do a shit test and this time the other person could fail them and they drift apart. This could happen even in long term marriages. But, if they remain to have “chemistry” (which is actually the feeling of social comfortability with another person), then all the other in-dominate people continue to think they aren’t worth being with a “perfect 10” and they lose confidence, which is the biggest indication of dominance, is confidence, they feel like they are average and this creates the false idea that the lions get the lioness and the flies get the flies and the whole world keeps spinning unless a person thinks otherwise. These feelings are just a chain of chemical reactions you could actually FEEL hence the name feelings. We can FEEL love. We can FEEL lust. We can FEEL hate. The thing we feel is the actual chemicals telling the brain to tell the nerves to create positive reactions or feelings. It is better to think of the feeling of an emotion as being equivalent to the physical feeling like a tickle or a scratch, because technically emotions are physical feelings, and this becomes more noticeable to that fact when someone feels stomach aches and muscle weakness when they are dumped. The two “types” of feelings are actually one of the same. When the mind is comfortable enough to determine this as being as simple as that, someone would look at emotions in a completely different way, and understand that these feelings can actually be controlled. Since these feeling can be controlled, then there should be no boundary with relationships if this knowledge is fully processed in the mind. The main focus at where you are at is to pass these shit tests first off. I could give you some pointers with how to pass these shit tests, but everything I could possibly say can be spoken in the fullest detail here… [Shit Test | PUA Lingo](http://www.pualingo.com/pua-definitions/shit-test/) I have not received any of my information from this address. The main source of the knowledge I have on the shit test is simply from experience and observing human behavior. I literally typed “shit test” into Google and found the best result there was. I hope you read the information I provided above, and I hope this helped you 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2010, 11:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wanting-to-get-with-someone-what-to-use-that-works/36415/10 "2010-02-21T11:40:27Z")
First let me say Ken I am sorry for your loss. Secondly…Zodia nice PUA post but please use paragraphs, Its very hard to read it without going insane. Ken it is likely she is testing your reaction to her comment. But there is more to attraction then the so called shit test. I know men who fail them and men who pass them and to tell you the truth its not a indicator on whether we will sleep with you or not. A lot more thought then that go’s into it which I am not going to get into because it would be to long. Now what zodia didnt mention and his link dosest really explain is how to pass the test. Suppose your hanging around watching tv or whatever and the subject comes up and she says … " I will break you if we get together" Dont get mad or upset Dont try to explain that you wont or how you feel. Dont try to logically try to figure out what she meant by it. Either ignore it and keep flirting with her or better yet challange it back on her. Say something like "Hmm care to test that theory out and see who breaks first ? " then grin and give her a little wink on quickly move on to doing something else like her comment was no big deal. Or totally turn it around on her by saying “so you been thinking about us having sex” again grin and quickly move on like its not big deal. It can be construed as a test of dominance but dont just assume that. Women test for many reasons and they are not all about who is the alpha. She could be testing to see if your over your loss. It could be a test to see how interested you really are in her. Could be many reasons but ultimately the reason makes no difference only your reaction does. Now with all that out of the way… So I think you ordered A314 and Tuth correct. Try each one separate first. See which one she reacts to better. The A314 should give you a strong alpha male signal. She may start throwing some more tests at you when this vibe hits her so be prepared. Tease her, flirt with her or turn the test back on her in a flirty way but do not respond by explaining yourself. TUTH is sexually arousing. Use it to arouse her sexual interest. I do suggest getting some Ishine to increase your charismatic charm. Dont over do it at first with the pheromones though. I think you mentioned she is your roomate so she knows your natural signature, You want to build it up over a week or two. Plus it generally takes that long when your using mones around someone close to you to sort of reprogram those preconceived notions they have about you. Now I know your 40 from your profile and your probably thinking, holy crap what happened to the dating scene while I was out of it. Well the new trend is PUA’s… pick up artists. I am not telling you all the information in the PUA arena is bad. They’re lots of great tips. I do think some people carry those to far and put to much thought into them to the point that they become unnatural which is far worse for picking up women then failing a shit test as they call it in the PUA world. The fastest way to spot a Beta male is to find a PUA. Its not like the shit test wasn’t around before you were married and you obviously passed it without knowing about it so dont over think it. The more men try to figure out us women the farther they seem to hit from the mark. What you need to know is that we are not looking for you to figure us out. We are testing to see if you figured out yourself yet. 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![bman123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bman123/32/2087_2.png) [@bman123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bman123)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2010, 5:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wanting-to-get-with-someone-what-to-use-that-works/36415/11 "2010-02-21T17:40:37Z")
WHOA ZODIAC!!! your paragrah is super hard to read. i dont beleive everything is out of a text book.not to knock you or doubt your knowledge but i dont think you have like extensive “experience”. youre only 17. woman and little older girls are totally different than younger girls. life style changes. but i dont know who so you be different. kenny wood i totally agree with tisha. i was saying something similiar to what tisha was mentioning and added. she mentioned some product that i didnt mentioned because i was trying to help you work with the stuff you have already , but shes totally right. the items mentioned by tisha would work wonderfully. take her advice shes awesome. Now i dont believe its a shit test thing. i just think shes trying to make you move forward to her. just make a move and see what happens. another great point tisha made is when she told you to turn it around and say to her"so you been thinking about us having sex"? that fact is she is. quick scenerio: i had this girl who i knew, called me me out the blue one day(lets call her jane). we started talking for a few days. i used to mess with her friend which i no longer speak too(lets call her sara). anyway jane said to me"so sara told me you fuck the shit out of her" im like yeah i did. shes like “wow you must of been good”. so i tell her i can hold my own. then jane was like “sara was going nuts you must hit the good spots” so after all the obvious hints i said to her “do you want to find out” she did want to find out and she did find out. see my point? lol good luck ---
**Author:** ![kenwoody2\_verizon.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3e96dc/32.png) [@kenwoody2\_verizon.net](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kenwoody2_verizon.net)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2010, 8:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wanting-to-get-with-someone-what-to-use-that-works/36415/12 "2010-02-21T20:22:33Z")
Wow! Thanks u all. I’m glad I came across this site I think it’s going to help me out alot with u guys here to give me pointers. Well, I know she into this new guy she just started dating But, I have seen this before with her. she jumped right into dating this other guy to a relationship that last like 1 week. alot of it was he no time for her. Now, this new guy lost his license & he’s telling her he’s suppose to get it back by next weekend. So, If he doesn’t he will be history just like the last guy. Right now this guy is paying for a cab to come see her or pick her up & take her back to his house which is costing him around $68.00 for the cab fair. He comes from a rich family which I think she’s way out of his lead. For one thing they met on a date site which is how I met her. So far every girl I have met on there have issues. Hell I know I do but nothing as back as some of the ones I have met lol.This guy I have no clue why he’s on there u would think with the money he has he wouldn’t have to be on a date site. He’s 26 yrs. old & she 32 yrs. old So, there is a little age differents But, now adays age don’t matter. Well, anyways I was on the phone with her earlyer today & I brought up about me & her but stop my self before going any farther with it & she started say the samething & the way it sounds to me it is a weight issue with her. she said that I can’t pick her up because I weight less than her So, I threw back at her that thats a shame that u look at someone’s size to find happyness. she didn’t have much to say about that… Not giving up on her yet. Well, thanks u all I will let u guys know how things go once I get my shipment in & try it out. Waiting on TUTH to be in stock then I will have everything I need…talk u all later thanks again..ken ---
**Author:** ![bman123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bman123/32/2087_2.png) [@bman123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bman123)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2010, 11:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wanting-to-get-with-someone-what-to-use-that-works/36415/13 "2010-02-21T23:07:39Z")
dont worry about the guy so much. it might be a little challenge put at this point its not that serious between those too. you can still get her. just be a little persistant. if shes self conscience about her weight thats even more a reason to try. make her feel comfortable with you. you got to make her change her mind. if you back off because of another dude then youll lose her. the rules still apply. go get your girl. it seems like you like her a lot. remember anything thats worth value doesnt come easy ---
**Author:** ![kenwoody2\_verizon.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3e96dc/32.png) [@kenwoody2\_verizon.net](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kenwoody2_verizon.net)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2010, 3:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wanting-to-get-with-someone-what-to-use-that-works/36415/14 "2010-02-22T15:32:25Z")
I’m trying not to. just hope this stuff works for me to get her close to me. this stuff not cheap thats for sure. alot of my friends think it’s a scam. i’m willing to give this stuff a try. really want this girl. she makes me so happy when we are out going something together or just hanging out at the house. well, wait & see what happens. thanks for all the addvice ur giving me. I will let u know how things go