# Warren's P83 TAC challenge **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 16, 2008, 4:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/warrens-p83-tac-challenge/24007 "2008-12-16T16:17:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 11
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 7:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/warrens-p83-tac-challenge/24007/11 "2008-12-18T07:43:34Z")
> [@Warren](#): > > The TAC relaxes you too much for you to get good and paranoid. I’ve never been paranoid, so I don’t know what to make of that. 😛 I know there is enough discrepancy with this molecule to do further testing on it. > [@Warren](#): > > So, Diane, do you find that think hydrogen peroxide is particularly good for removing pheromones? How did you come up with that trick? That was a trick that was given by both MikeH and Steve and others. You can’t wash Androstenone off because it is so sticky. Hydrogen peroxide is supposed to chew up the bonds in Androstenone. Sorry I can’t give you a link right now… but I’m sure a search will find it. > [@Warren](#): > > You use P102 in several of your mixes. What do you think it does? I’m still testing P102 and P103 somewhat, but I like them both very much. So far the only downside seems to be an initial loading buzz that is sedating. This passes within 10-15 minutes. When I use both molecules, the sedation continues. P103 blocks thoughts and makes concentration difficult. It seems like a hypnotic substance. P102, on the other hand, is not so intellectually incapacitating, but it does quiet down mental chatter. P103 makes kissing an intensely pleasurable, blissful, and uncontrollably hot experience. P102 is supposed to increase oral desires from your experience, and for me it does increases desire and makes me hungry for food if the ratio is too high. But for me it is P103 that turns kissing into an experience that you don’t want to end. P103 doesn’t increase the desire for kissing, but it certainly promotes pleasure during kissing. Looking back through my journal, P102 added to meo-est and TUTH, with TAF produced pleasurable sensations running though my body (mostly truncal), butterfly fashion. Like P103, P102 intensifies both the experience of sensual pleasure, and the response to sensual pleasure… when worn with meo-est. I don’t know if that would hold true for guys as well, but I’ve been testing meo-est with Est,TAF, P102, Betanol, and P103 for several weeks with no noticable habituation. Androstenone sends body sensations through the roof, when it is paired with meo-est, est, TAF, and P102 or P103. Both molecules are good. I’m still trying to get a more complete handle on both of these molecules. P102 seems more geared to ramp up desire or physical hunger, while P103 seems a little more fun, silly, giddy, and hypnotic. From my initial and ongoing testing, it doesn’t seem that a lot of either of these molecules is necessary for this pleasure enhancing activation effect. Meo-est by itself is .. eh, nice and slow… with TAF… sensual as hell… with Est and TAF and Androstenone and P102 or P103… zomg! Git tha fire hose, Martha! Rather than mixing it in, when I spray 12.5 mcg P102 on top of meo-est, est, TAF, I get extremely pleasurable mid-body and chest rushes that persist for a long time. Sometimes I also get hungry for food, but mostly just hungry for my hubby. In a mix it just intensifies the sensuality of meo-est. Using P102 and P103 together is challenging, because they can be sedating and more so when paired together. But since only a small amount is activating, diluting these may solve that problem. I haven’t tried this yet, but it is high on my agenda to do. Here’s an interesting tidbit. Some of these mixes are so good at promoting pleasurable sensations, that you almost don’t want to interrupt your phero-trip for real sex. Androstenone solves that dilemna. With all these molecules in the right ratios, the addition of Androstenone not only further intensifies sensations, it also sends your desire for your partner through the roof. Diane --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/warrens-p83-tac-challenge/24007)._