# Ways to put on less. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 7, 2008, 5:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ways-to-put-on-less/13639 "2008-06-07T17:03:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![soraflair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@soraflair](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/soraflair)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 5:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ways-to-put-on-less/13639/1 "2008-06-07T17:03:11Z")
Hey i’m young 18 and prety much I OD really easly, I’ve had a few good success with putting on little, but I keep on ODing. I’ve tried more Social stuff. (Instant Openess, Honesty) but I OD on those too. 😕 is there anyway of putting on a really minute ammount. I’ve tried spraying a paper towel and dabing it on myself but I OD with that too. I’ve also tried to really spread it out by puting my hand away as far as possible and trying not to get it in one spot. That worked kind of, but I still have a good chance of ODing. Any tips on how to apply a really minute amount of the stuff. Anyway to modify the spray nosile or something ---
**Author:** ![Redundancy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea5d25/32.png) [@Redundancy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Redundancy)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 5:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ways-to-put-on-less/13639/2 "2008-06-07T17:14:56Z")
How do you know you are ODing? Could it be that you actually just need more? That’s how it was with me, i wasn’t getting any effects (1 spray of AMMO and 2 of Instant Shine) so I started putting on more throughout the day and as i did i started getting more and more hits. Just something to take into consideration. ---
**Author:** ![soraflair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@soraflair](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/soraflair)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 5:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ways-to-put-on-less/13639/3 "2008-06-07T17:33:21Z")
> [@Redundancy](#): > > How do you know you are ODing? Could it be that you actually just need more? That’s how it was with me, i wasn’t getting any effects (1 spray of AMMO and 2 of Instant Shine) so I started putting on more throughout the day and as i did i started getting more and more hits. Just something to take into consideration. People avoid me, if I go to 7/11 people treat me like crap , ect. I’m 99% sure i’m ODing but I will take that into consideration. ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 6:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ways-to-put-on-less/13639/4 "2008-06-07T18:23:23Z")
Dilute it with aftershave or alcohol. You can control the strength by the ammount of dilution. ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 7:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ways-to-put-on-less/13639/5 "2008-06-07T19:31:57Z")
To OD on Instant Openness wouldn’t result in people treating you like crap. It just doesn’t do that. Maybe the guy at 7/11 is just a jerk, or you aren’t visually connecting with him. An OD of instant openness can result in nonsensical coversations, forgetfullness, silliness, and “dazed” looks. Have you tried [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/)? Also, the reverse is also true. I haven’t found a real “dosage” of pheromones where something doesn’t happen with enough exposure. I’m always noticing stuff, even with a single spray. Sometimes it is really subtle and won’t be a “hit”, but you are making an impression on people and if you see them again, it seems to influence their image of you. ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 7:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ways-to-put-on-less/13639/6 "2008-06-07T19:41:53Z")
Try io and ih by themself, the od for those [pheromones](https://a314.com/) are : too much talking, tiredness, unfocuse, headache, but people won’t avoid you just of androstenol 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 9:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ways-to-put-on-less/13639/7 "2008-06-07T21:54:55Z")
Do not dilute it till you are absolutely sure your ODing. Your guarantee will be void. Keep in mind once you dilute it its no longer dosed. You could get 2.5 mcg on one application and 5.0 mcg on the next. Make sure you gently shake to bottle to try to even that out in case whatever you dilute with doesn’t blend with it well. Keep in mind most men don’t OD till they are using well over 5.0 MCG so it is possible your not useing enough. Best way to find out is to deliberately OD. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![soraflair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@soraflair](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/soraflair)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 5:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ways-to-put-on-less/13639/8 "2008-06-08T05:15:16Z")
Dilbertly OD? Seems crazy, I have all the togo bottles. I’ll do 2 shots of AMMO tomorrow. (Rather than my usual 1.) I’ll go from there really. I’ll post back tomorrow with what happens. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 9:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ways-to-put-on-less/13639/9 "2008-06-08T09:10:21Z")
> [@](#): > > I’ve tried more Social stuff. (Instant Openess, Honesty) but I [OD](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmacodynamics) on those too. You can only OD on anone products not on socials. This is a indication your not using enough. OD is not crazy its helps you determine your dosage. I know the term sounds scary but the worst that will happen is someone could be snarky with you or ignore you totally. I think some guys are so afraid of this term that they never use enough product to see results. We use it only to help determine how much anone product a man needs not to scare you into using less. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 9:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ways-to-put-on-less/13639/10 "2008-06-08T09:30:23Z")
Tisha is right, though I’d play it safe and not OD on -none in a situation that could lead to bodily harm. Read SteveO’s thread about [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/), which is an -none-based product in oil form. Basically, don’t OD on -none in a biker bar. 😉 -D4 ---
**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 10:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ways-to-put-on-less/13639/11 "2008-06-08T10:20:11Z")
I am going to disagree here about OD on social like [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), but not in the way you think. You cannot OD on the pheros itself, but the smell you can, I know I have. Instant Openness for example has a smell to it that it that if you were to spray yourself 10x you are going to OD of smell, and it will linger. I know because I have done that and even a few hours later I had someone made a comment to me. That is why in my recent order I ordered Instant Openness unscented, and then I will cover up either my cologne or Ammo ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 1:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ways-to-put-on-less/13639/12 "2008-06-08T13:56:40Z")
I agree denec but thats is not ODing its over scenting. You can do that with just about any scent product. ODing is a reaction to the mones not the scent. We should come up with a name for over scenting. OS prehaps LOL Tisha ---
**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 3:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ways-to-put-on-less/13639/13 "2008-06-08T15:53:55Z")
OS I like the sound to that LOL I am starting to order most of my products unfragranced just for the fear over scenting, especially when I am experimenting with so many combos and mixes ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 4:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ways-to-put-on-less/13639/14 "2008-06-08T16:29:31Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > … Keep in mind once you dilute it its no longer dosed. You could get 2.5 mcg on one application and 5.0 mcg on the next. Make sure you gently shake to bottle to try to even that out in case whatever you dilute with doesn’t blend with it well. > … Interesting. I often dilute relatively high-dose solutions with perfumer’s alcohol, ethanol, or commercial colognes. I haven’t noted the variability in effects that would come from large dosage variations in the resulting mixtures. I haven’t had them analysed though. I’m just going by my observed results usiing such mixtures. Ive used numerous bottles of mixtures completely up, and noted no variation in effects from the beginning to the end. However, I do see obvious differences in effects at different calculated dosages of product. This leads me to believe that if there was a large dosage variation within a bottle in my mixtures I would probably pick it up. Those who mix various solutions together are also diluting each individual solution. Again, variability in effects from spray to spray is rarely noted here by those who do such mixing. Of course, if one tried to dilute with an immiscible liquid, one would expect separation and variability of doses. ---
**Author:** ![soraflair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@soraflair](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/soraflair)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 11:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ways-to-put-on-less/13639/15 "2008-06-08T23:59:57Z")
So basically I went to the beach today. . . so nothing happened. . . I hit the water and I was back to normal. I couldn’t get any reactions. Sea Salt anyone? 😃 (Been scanning the forums recently) Anyway, i’ll try to put a lot on tonight and see how it goes. I’ll update the topic. “Over Senting” huh, i’ll keep that in mind. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 1:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ways-to-put-on-less/13639/16 "2008-06-09T01:34:36Z")
> [@](#): > > Interesting. I often dilute relatively high-dose solutions with perfumer’s alcohol, ethanol, or commercial colognes. 2.5 mcg of Androstenone is not a high dose though and I am not saying that he should never do it but that he should be sure that he is ODing before he does it. If its not a OD and he diluted it will be even harder to see reactions. You and I are experienced and can pick up even subtle reactions at first. > [@](#): > > Sea Salt anyone? I believe I know the post your referring to. Posted by our famous natural young Adonis. I suggest before you listen to his lastest post on suppliments click on his name and read all his posts. You will have a better understanding of whats occuring. Not saying its not worth trying if it improves you output of mones or life in some manner its allways worth trying. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![soraflair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@soraflair](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/soraflair)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 1:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ways-to-put-on-less/13639/17 "2008-06-09T13:57:36Z")
Didn’t get to go out preety much fell asleep by 8. To above Post: Yeah it does kind of seem like a big advertisement. 2.5MSG is not a lot? How much are in those 2go bottles?