# Wearing ammo as a standalone: indifference instead of the ammo/IS social vibe

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [April 3, 2012, 12:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wearing-ammo-as-a-standalone-indifference-instead-of-the-ammo-is-social-vibe/55134 "2012-04-03T00:18:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![redlion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8491ac/32.png) [@redlion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/redlion)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2012, 8:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wearing-ammo-as-a-standalone-indifference-instead-of-the-ammo-is-social-vibe/55134/8 "2012-04-05T20:40:58Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> Actually much less. As I worked out I produced natural enone and therefore couldn’t wear as much. With IO it was just the opposite: Fat guys seem jovial so when I wore IO I would seem like the clown. Now that I’m more fit and feeling better, I can wear more IO.
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> Whatever changes you make to your body, even the food you intake, its going to have an impact on the mones and how you wear them.

I can relate, but on the opposite side of the spectrum. I’m young, skinny, but not in any way fit. I’m also a smoker, so I have THAT added scent which doesn’t do much to help things along.

I’ve been wearing varying amounts of Ammo to work for the past two weeks or so (after establishing a week-long baseline) and it was a great way to sweet spot test. I settled on a moderate dose of 2 sprays, regular strength, as the sweet spot, going up to 3s in social scenes. I don’t think (this is an opinion, albeit somewhat educated) that I produce that much enone naturally, both because I don’t work out and because of my vegetarian diet (see [this thread](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-beneficial-biological-contradiction-vegetarians-and-pheromone-supplementation/22929) on diet interactions) so Ammo is a nice way to supplement my natural enone production.

I think diet and exercise have more to do with [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) than is commonly believed. But the main thing is to sweet spot test like Steve said. Double strength Ammo is strong enough, and then three sprays? I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re ODing. Even when sweet spot testing, I didn’t go up to six sprays of regular strength. I stopped at five after I got funny looks from a female supervisor who is probably twenty years older than me.

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