# Wearing Women's 'Mones **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 1, 2011, 10:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wearing-womens-mones/50135 "2011-05-01T22:42:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MCAN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@MCAN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MCAN)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 10:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wearing-womens-mones/50135/1 "2011-05-01T22:42:01Z")
Here’s a hypothetical question for everyone: If I were to wear [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) for women (from the ‘for women’ section) would I be more attractive to lesbians? Now before everyone gangs up on me with things like “Never try to convert a lesbian!” and “There are plenty of other girls, don’t waste your time!” I just want to re-state that this is a hypothetical question I have been curious about for some time. ---
**Author:** ![Aggie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f07891/32.png) [@Aggie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aggie)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 10:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wearing-womens-mones/50135/2 "2011-05-01T22:46:59Z")
The answer is no. ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 10:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wearing-womens-mones/50135/3 "2011-05-01T22:50:03Z")
> [@MCAN](#): > > Here’s a hypothetical question for everyone: > > If I were to wear pheromones for women (from the ‘for women’ section) would I be more attractive to lesbians? > > Now before everyone gangs up on me with things like “Never try to convert a lesbian!” and “There are plenty of other girls, don’t waste your time!” I just want to re-state that this is a hypothetical question I have been curious about for some time. :Dlol [Instant Sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) /B is to project a softer, flirtier, hair tossing kind of vibe, with the cops for sexual attraction. If it worked, there’s every possibility that a) she may be fascinated, but won’t act on it b) she’ll perceive you as her little bitch. Even if you don’t behave like it - and you **need** to be congruent with the mones - her perceptions being contradicted might just buy a whol’ world a hurt. Don’t dick with the lesbians. They’re scary enough already. 😮 PS still needing an EEK! for the post icons . . . 😮 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Gslinger](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnny_gslinger/32/748_2.png) [@Johnny\_Gslinger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Johnny_Gslinger)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 11:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wearing-womens-mones/50135/4 "2011-05-01T23:10:29Z")
> [@MCAN](#): > > Here’s a hypothetical question for everyone: > > If I were to wear pheromones for women (from the ‘for women’ section) would I be more attractive to lesbians? > > Now before everyone gangs up on me with things like “Never try to convert a lesbian!” and “There are plenty of other girls, don’t waste your time!” I just want to re-state that this is a hypothetical question I have been curious about for some time. I’m guessing anything with high none in it might be a potential turn off since she’s used to females. Go for the nols. IH really works well to give a deep sense of trust and comfort. I guess for some lesbians (definitely not all) guys are somewhat intimidating and they find more solace and trust in other girls instead of men. Your first step I guess is in getting them to be comfortable with you and to build that trust. I’m guessing IS and IH would help you quite a bit, and most likely an attraction factor might come from the IS. This is my own experience so far, but I’ve had a bi friend respond well to p78. She might be bi but she leans more towards the other side. ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 12:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wearing-womens-mones/50135/5 "2011-05-02T00:47:28Z")
> [@Johnny\_Gslinger](#): > > I’m guessing anything with high none in it might be a potential turn off since she’s used to females. Go for the nols. IH really works well to give a deep sense of trust and comfort. I guess for some lesbians (definitely not all) guys are somewhat **intimidating and they find more solace and trust in other girls** instead of men. Your first step I guess is in getting them to be comfortable with you and to build that trust. I’m guessing IS and IH would help you quite a bit, and most likely an attraction factor might come from the IS. > > This is my own experience so far, but I’ve had a bi friend respond well to p78. She might be bi but she leans more towards the other side. Yeah, ahh, no. Lesbians mostly find men superfluous. Unnecessary. Competition. If not cannon fodder. They’re not looking for trust and solace anymore than you are. I have found very few actually bi people in comparison to the number that say they are (bi, that is). There was even a lesbian on this forum who said she specifically has trust issues with women. The entirety is on the individual and I’ve noticed guys dig lesbians until they get toe to toe with a butch chick. Then they’re all ‘what is _ **she** _ all _ **up in my grill for?** _’ **Because you’re trespassing, fool.** Lesbians see other females as targets, ONS’s, casual toys and all the rest, the same way you guys do. Don’t delude yourselves in thinking you can interfere with that. Would you chase a guy like that? Would you fuck a guy? No? Did I just hear you scream in anguish at the thought of that reciprocating? Play with the bi girls if you like. See how your confidence is ‘adjusted’ when she leaves you for a pussy. I’ve seen it a bunch of times and it never fails to amuse me. “But, I’m a **guy**!” Yeah, zactly. 😃😃😃 As for actual, really, truly ruly lesbians - **THEY DON’T WANT WHAT YOU GOT!** 🙄 If you get beat, the rest of us are gonna laugh until we stop. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 12:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wearing-womens-mones/50135/6 "2011-05-02T00:51:10Z")
Let me be clear - there is NO SUCH THING AS WOMENS MONES AND MENS MONES. Sorry for the caps but its important. I’m going to repeat it because its been said so often. NO SUCH THING AS WOMENS MONES AND MENS MONES. It has to do with the balance of each one. But is/a/b has been successfully worn by men. ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 1:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wearing-womens-mones/50135/7 "2011-05-02T01:39:47Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > Let me be clear - there is NO SUCH THING AS WOMENS MONES AND MENS MONES. > > Sorry for the caps but its important. I’m going to repeat it because its been said so often. > > NO SUCH THING AS WOMENS MONES AND MENS MONES. > > It has to do with the balance of each one. But is/a/b has been successfully worn by men. What about copulins? Men don’t make them. Or are they not classified as pheromones? ---
**Author:** ![little](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@little](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/little)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 2:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wearing-womens-mones/50135/8 "2011-05-02T02:40:41Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > Let me be clear - there is NO SUCH THING AS WOMENS MONES AND MENS MONES. > > Sorry for the caps but its important. I’m going to repeat it because its been said so often. > > NO SUCH THING AS WOMENS MONES AND MENS MONES. > > It has to do with the balance of each one. But is/a/b has been successfully worn by men. I am about to start my sweet spot test on IS/B 😛 ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 3:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wearing-womens-mones/50135/9 "2011-05-02T03:19:39Z")
> [@Astrea](#): > > What about copulins? Men don’t make them. Or are they not classified as pheromones? true pheromones are derivatives/metabolites of hormones, hence the similarity of the words. Inside the body, they are hormones, outside they are pheromones. Copulins have been shown to demonstrate pheromone like effects but as they are not hormones, and thus not pheromones. ---
**Author:** ![xev](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xev/32/1993_2.png) [@xev](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xev)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 3:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wearing-womens-mones/50135/10 "2011-05-02T03:19:41Z")
> [@Astrea](#): > > What about copulins? Men don’t make them. Or are they not classified as pheromones? copulins are technically not considered pheromones because 1) copulins are not one compund but a particular mixture of compounds and 2) the human body does not actually produce the mixture. They are produced by the normal bacterial flora in the vagina. ---
**Author:** ![Godhand](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/godhand/32/2378_2.png) [@Godhand](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Godhand)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 3:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wearing-womens-mones/50135/11 "2011-05-02T03:29:50Z")
I think I’ve covered this question (or something very similar to it) a few years in the past. Search “Cobra Commander Mix”. [Instant Sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) was an ingredient in the mix. Here’s how I used it: 1. The only way that most guys get that many copulins on them is when they’ve recently banged a chick. It mimics pre-selection. Women often want what other women have. Do the search for exact application spots. 2. The other pheromones in Instant Sexiness helped to soften the aggressive male pheromones that my mixes are known for piling on. I observed that I had much less resistance to entering a female set or cold approaching females. There was the occasional unwanted attention from gay men, but it was a minor annoyance compared to the hardcore results that I got from females. My pheromone signature was on one hand overtly sexual, but I had enough soft and happy pheromones not to be initially seen as a threat. I could have easily called it the mix “Wolf In Sheep’s Clothing Mix”. 😮 ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 5:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wearing-womens-mones/50135/12 "2011-05-02T05:24:21Z")
> [@Godhand](#): > > I think I’ve covered this question (or something very similar to it) a few years in the past. Search “Cobra Commander Mix”. Instant Sexiness was an ingredient in the mix. Here’s how I used it: > > 1. The only way that most guys get that many copulins on them is when they’ve recently banged a chick. It mimics pre-selection. Women often want what other women have. Do the search for exact application spots. > > 2. The other pheromones in Instant Sexiness helped to soften the aggressive male pheromones that my mixes are known for piling on. I observed that I had much less resistance to entering a female set or cold approaching females. There was the occasional unwanted attention from gay men, but it was a minor annoyance compared to the hardcore results that I got from females. My pheromone signature was on one hand overtly sexual, but I had enough soft and happy pheromones not to be initially seen as a threat. I could have easily called it the mix **“Wolf In Sheep’s Clothing Mix”**. 😮 I love it! You gave me the perfect visual - anime/cartoon version. 😃 I hope that’s in the journals with that as the thread title. Maybe you should get some of the guys to wear it and post/compare results. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 5:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wearing-womens-mones/50135/13 "2011-05-02T05:56:20Z")
> [@MCAN](#): > > Here’s a hypothetical question for everyone: > > If I were to wear pheromones for women (from the ‘for women’ section) would I be more attractive to lesbians? > > Now before everyone gangs up on me with things like “Never try to convert a lesbian!” and “There are plenty of other girls, don’t waste your time!” I just want to re-state that this is a hypothetical question I have been curious about for some time. I know it can be confusing especially because there is a women’s section of the store and a men’s section of the store so it makes it seem as though there are men’s pheromones and women’s pheromones. There are men’s formulas and women’s formulas though. This has to do with the ratio of pheromones in the product not the pheromone being exclusive to one sex. For instance both men and women make Testosterone. Its the ratio of testosterone between us that differs. Copulins on the other hand are not technically pheromones because they are not derived from hormones but from fatty acids and lipids. So they are a substance thats secreted by the body that acts like a pheromone but is not derived from hormones. Now to answer your question… > [@](#): > > If I were to wear pheromones for women (from the ‘for women’ section) would I be more attractive to lesbians? No it wouldn’t. Your forgetting that we have other senses and you produce your own pheromones. Lesbians are not visually attracted to men. They are not pheromonally attracted to men. They just dont want men. If you **wear to much** of a **woman’s formula** it would probably just send a signal that your more on the feminine side or there gaydar will go off. They will simply think your gay Now dont get me wrong pheromones can not turn a straight person gay or a gay person straight. But a male using a female formula incorrectly can send the signal that they are and confuse what is being said pheromonally. People are logical thinkers so when we feel something we look to the source that is triggering that feeling and make a conclusion. Some people will process it as you being gay, some will think your a girly boy or on the weak side and some will think your just weird. Now copulins on a man signal something entirely different. (remember they are not pheromones but a pheromone like substance) Only women secrete them so if they are detected on a guy there are only two ways it got there. He has been with a women or they are synthetic. Of course the human brain wont go to the conclusion of synthetic unless your someone who is really into to pheromone use. So on a man its like social proofing. Its saying Women find me of value. EDIT TO ADD \>\>\>\>\>\> Straight men who want to use womens formulas to send certain signals and increase attraction you can. Its not gonna turn you gay. In the correct ratio it can say things about you like your sensitive caring attentive nurturing and some women dig that in a guy. Use it with your more masculine mixes to round out your vibe. You need to consider your own physical makeup though when choosing. If your on the softer side already you dont want to go to soft. In that case I would say stick to the mens mixes. Its the same for females who want to use the mens formulas. They can say something about you. Your strong, resilient, a leader but use to much of the mens formulas and you become a pushy bitch. Balance is the key. 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![little](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@little](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/little)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 6:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wearing-womens-mones/50135/14 "2011-05-06T06:09:59Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Straight men who want to use womens formulas to send certain signals and increase attraction you can. Its not gonna turn you gay. In the correct ratio it can say things about you like your sensitive caring attentive nurturing and some women dig that in a guy. Use it with your more masculine mixes to round out your vibe. You need to consider your own physical makeup though when choosing. If your on the softer side already you dont want to go to soft. In that case I would say stick to the mens mixes. > > Its the same for females who want to use the mens formulas. They can say something about you. Your strong, resilient, a leader but use to much of the mens formulas and you become a pushy bitch. > > Balance is the key. 😉 > > Tisha Tisha How do I effective test out Instant Sexiness B without appearing weird??? I mean, for the [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) to work successfully, one should behave accordingly right? But, I don’t know how to become congruent with the signature of Instant Sexiness… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 8:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wearing-womens-mones/50135/15 "2011-05-06T08:14:28Z")
> [@little](#): > > Tisha > > How do I effective test out Instant Sexiness B without appearing weird??? I mean, for the pheromone to work successfully, one should behave accordingly right? But, I don’t know how to become congruent with the signature of Instant Sexiness… 😛 First pheromones do work so some extent without congruency. Being congruent just makes them more effective and natural. I like to look at in the terms of not being in opposition with the vibe your sending. For instance take IO… It gives a friendly, fun, easy to talk to, attractive vibe Now if your not any of those things its going to be pretty hard to pretend you are and who wants to go around pretending all the time. Its not that I am not a fan of “fake it till you make it” but that doesn’t work for everyone. So you dont have to suddenly change your behavior to outgoing fun loving guy who talks to everyone. If you could do that you wouldn’t need IO. Just be sure to respond in a friendly, easy to talk to manner when someone responds the the signal of IO. If you pull into yourself with your body language and wont respond when they react to it then that is when people think your weird or become confused. This can be said for any pheromone you use. That being said… I would suggest testing IS/B on its own at first just so you can get a clear and better feel of it. For women it gives a soft sweet sexy vibe. So to be congruent for a male you just have to be nice, caring and sensitive… _Hundreds of men just gasped in horror at the possibility of being labeled “nice” LOL_ Calm down men I am not finished 😛 Now from what I recall little, your gay or Bi correct ? Once the initial testing of IS/B is out of the way you would combo it with other masculine mones but at a different ratio then straight men would find effective. So for instance using 1 spray of IG and 1 spray of IS/B may be your dosage for best results being gay because you wont come off as overly aggressive and your increasing your feminine vibe enough to set signal to other gay men that your sexy and attractive. On a straight guy I would suggest a different ratio like 3 sprays of IG and 1 of IS/B to give the vibe a little more of a mildly nice sensitive vibe without totally overshadowing the strong masculine vibe. Now I am not saying these are the exact dosages for men to use. You still need to find your personal sweet spot. So basically it will just be you testing to find the right dosage and ratio of products for the signal you intend to send or the vibe you want to emit. Tisha