# Weird effect on pheromones **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 25, 2013, 12:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/weird-effect-on-pheromones/60094 "2013-09-25T12:35:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![gforcex7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b38774/32.png) [@gforcex7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gforcex7)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 12:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/weird-effect-on-pheromones/60094/1 "2013-09-25T12:35:45Z")
Hey, So I have been wearing mones during the first week of school. New people & new environment. Things went great. Did things I never would have expected, joining club, made new friends, etc. However, after I stopped wearing mones I feel very introverted. I am already an introverted person as is, but after stopped wearing mones it made me even more than I usually was. I can read my friends body language saying “who the heck is this guy” or “why is he such a downer”. I could be over thinking it, but I know whatever I speak on a joke no one laughs. But when others say something, they laugh. So this got me thinking, am I just naturally awkward? Normally, I am funny & social. But I guess it depends on the state of mind I am in. And sometimes I feel like I don’t want to social with people, even with my friends when I stopped wearing mones. It changes you to a different person. I have been experiencing with different mones, companies, & products and this is got to be the first I am experience this. I know this is for AD products, but I was wearing true instinct by True [Pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) at the time. I think this is going to be my last time wearing this while going to school & maybe switch it to a different product. ---
**Author:** ![hankypanky2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hankypanky2/32/597_2.png) [@hankypanky2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hankypanky2)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 1:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/weird-effect-on-pheromones/60094/2 "2013-09-25T13:23:15Z")
take this with a grain of salt ive not yet tried pheromones but have bought several after over a month learning about them. it could be that the phero u use is giving out wrong signal, so ur phero is saying one thing but u are saying something different. Also check are they sexual blend or a social blend. ---
**Author:** ![gforcex7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b38774/32.png) [@gforcex7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gforcex7)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 1:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/weird-effect-on-pheromones/60094/3 "2013-09-26T13:35:57Z")
I agree! I think it does give off that. I switch mones every week with the same people so I can get a good analysis. I am using True Instinct body spray. It’s tend to be a sexual blend. So using it during the day probably isn’t good? ---
**Author:** ![XyzN](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xyzn/32/2416_2.png) [@XyzN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XyzN)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 3:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/weird-effect-on-pheromones/60094/4 "2013-09-26T15:50:10Z")
High Sexual/Enone mixes will just cause irritation in other guys and cause girls to become nervous/introverted around you. I’d say if you are able to keep up socially with the high androstenone you’re putting out, then it is okay/very fine to do. Otherwise, if you can’t open girls up on your own, they are going to keep ignoring you and that means lessen up on the sexualness to an acceptable level where it matches your social abilities. ---
**Author:** ![gforcex7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b38774/32.png) [@gforcex7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gforcex7)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 10:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/weird-effect-on-pheromones/60094/5 "2013-09-27T10:42:35Z")
So let’s say two people wore IH. Would each person have different results? That means I should find the right mones that blend with my natural pheros? ---
**Author:** ![gforcex7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b38774/32.png) [@gforcex7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gforcex7)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 1:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/weird-effect-on-pheromones/60094/6 "2013-09-27T13:48:22Z")
You mentioned, “I’d say if you are able to keep up socially with the high androstenone you’re putting out, then it is okay/very fine to do.” I decided to wear 1 shot of ammo & 2 shot of IO at a party. I got some weird experiences & reactions. People were acting weird to me. One chick even attacked me. I would say some were okay that I connected with. So does this mean I have high -enone? What is it? ---
**Author:** ![XyzN](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xyzn/32/2416_2.png) [@XyzN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XyzN)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 3:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/weird-effect-on-pheromones/60094/7 "2013-09-27T15:08:44Z")
Sounds like you indeed are OD’ing on Enone for yourself and/or the people around you just can’t handle that enone themselves. It means adjust your doses to what ever you find acceptable results. You can’t please everyone you meet, so either increase or decrease dosages till you’re comfortable with the results. Young people (teens to early 20s) aren’t keen too much on tons of -none if you hadn’t known already. These fights, are they normal for you to get even when not on Mones? If not, I suggest dropping Ammo dosage to like 1/2 a spray or smaller (dont press all the way down on atomizer or dilute the mix if you know how). When you mean you were attacked by this “chick” was this out of sheer aggression or sexual desire? lol. suggestions you can try: -Up your IO dosage when used with Ammo to buffer further. -Smaller Ammo dosages; do what I said before or –\> apply beforehand, say an hour or two to let some of it diffuse before heading out. -Instant Shine instead of IO or with it; IS brightens moods too and is a cheaper buffer than IO is. -Drop Ammo completely, try [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) instead as that has no enone in it of which you may be producing way too much of already. -Up your Ammo dosage and actually see where that gets you; More fights? Maybe more sexual attention? Who knows. > [@gforcex7](#): > > So let’s say two people wore IH. Would each person have different results? > > That means I should find the right mones that blend with my natural pheros? Yes, they would. There are tons of variables you have to consider: Does he/she work out? super or not very social? what kind of people do they know already? Where do they use their IH? How do they approach strangers? etc etc. It’s not just that you need to find mones that “blend” you just need to be able to act out the vibe you are putting out, practically speaking, ones that fit your own personality. Also keep in mind the environments you use mones around. Ex: Wearing IO to the library during study hours. Don’t expect much magic to happen. Wearing IJ but just sitting on the couch watching T.V. at a party. Don’t expect girls to walk up to you. Course there is the chance of things happening in those scenarios, but for the Full Potential of the mone, you need both the acting of the vibe you put out & the correct environment/setting. Keyword here is congruence. Go along with the vibe(s) you are putting out, adjust your mixes till you find a comfortable dosage for that area in particular, adjust to other areas as well. ---
**Author:** ![gforcex7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b38774/32.png) [@gforcex7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gforcex7)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 3:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/weird-effect-on-pheromones/60094/8 "2013-09-27T15:20:41Z")
I was getting the weird effects from wearing true instinct. With is True’s version of ammo but with more -enone. Another thing that got my considered, it should we find the right mones to balance with our own? A person with not -enone should avoid -enone products to prevent intimidation? And not all mones work for everyone. I posted a thread on my experiences with ammo, IO, & IS. Check it out. > [@XyzN](#): > > Sounds like you indeed are OD’ing on Enone for yourself and/or the people around you just can’t handle that enone themselves. It means adjust your doses to what ever you find acceptable results. You can’t please everyone you meet, so either increase or decrease dosages till you’re comfortable with the results. > > These fights, are they normal for you to get even when not on Mones? If not, I suggest dropping Ammo dosage to like 1/2 a spray or smaller (dont press all the way down on atomizer or dilute the mix if you know how). > > When you mean you were attacked by this “chick” was this out of sheer aggression or sexual desire? lol. > > suggestions you can try: > -Up your IO dosage when used with Ammo to buffer further. > -Smaller Ammo dosages; do what I said before or –\> apply beforehand, say an hour or two to let some of it diffuse before heading out. > -Instant Shine instead of IO or with it; IS brightens moods too and is a cheaper buffer than IO is. > -Drop Ammo completely, try Instant Gentleman instead as that has no enone in it of which you may be producing way too much of already. > -Up your Ammo dosage and actually see where that gets you; More fights? Maybe more sexual attention? Who knows. ---
**Author:** ![XyzN](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xyzn/32/2416_2.png) [@XyzN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XyzN)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 3:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/weird-effect-on-pheromones/60094/9 "2013-09-27T15:31:08Z")
> [@gforcex7](#): > > I was getting the weird effects from wearing true instinct. With is True’s version of ammo but with more -enone. > > Another thing that got my considered, it should we find the right mones to balance with our own? **A person with not -enone should avoid -enone products to prevent intimidation?** > > And not all mones work for everyone. > > I posted a thread on my experiences with ammo, IO, & IS. Check it out. Quite the opposite if I am understanding you correctly. Someone who isn’t producing enough enone- could or could not benefit by wearing some. They just need to know what enone brings to the table (irritation in males in high doses and attraction from ladies) Double Edged Sword so to say. Also consider if the person is willing to change their own personality for the mones they are going to wear. “Would you like to the the Alpha male of the group? Then you need to start acting like one too.” Some people would rather just enhance the personalities they have already, in which case you’d find what sounds like your personality. In my case, I bought [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), knowing I’d need to be a more social and out-going person, I accepted this and have been working on it and have been gradually seeing better results. I myself am a pretty non-threatening guy from my life experience thus far. I’ve had almost 0 fights nor bullies in my lifetime. I’m mostly a shy guy, who gives people help so and so. Didn’t have much ladies having it in for me from my perspective. Not popular one bit, but I get around. From this, I concluded that my own natural enone is very low and that I could benefit from everyday wear of Ammo or another enone product. Began wearing 1 to 3 sprays of Ammo and IS as my first mones worn at work, suddenly get a few looks and blatant hits from my female co-workers a few days after exposure and things have been going smoothly. Not to mention better respect from my male co-workers too. p.s. sorry for the late edit, I like to revise my post after I’ve posted and all more in after lol. ---
**Author:** ![gforcex7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b38774/32.png) [@gforcex7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gforcex7)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 3:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/weird-effect-on-pheromones/60094/10 "2013-09-27T15:38:07Z")
I think I just need to keep testing. I got weird reactions from True Instinct. I’m naturally a leader, likes to take charge, & can have an anal side. I think I might have natural high -enone. I will try something else to see if it will help balance me out. I wore 1 ammo, 2 IO, & 1 IS to a party. Things went well. Got some attention. But later the night I was isolated. This girl even thought I was awkward. Coincidence? ---
**Author:** ![XyzN](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xyzn/32/2416_2.png) [@XyzN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XyzN)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 3:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/weird-effect-on-pheromones/60094/11 "2013-09-27T15:53:42Z")
> [@gforcex7](#): > > I think I just need to keep testing. I got weird reactions from True Instinct. > > I’m naturally a leader, likes to take charge, & can have an anal side. I think I might have natural high -enone. I will try something else to see if it will help balance me out. > > I wore 1 ammo, 2 IO, & 1 IS to a party. Things went well. Got some attention. But later the night I was isolated. This girl even thought I was awkward. Coincidence? Just cause you act like a leader or jerk doesn’t necessarily mean you produce the actual mones associated with that behavior, so you don’t know if adding more -none or -rone to your mixes will be better till you test some more like you said. About the party, probably what happened is the IO and IS wore off as the party went on. You need to refresh with a spray or w/e after so many hours. IS especially, it dies out after like 2 hours users report. IO may last a bit longer, but you probably had to refresh with that too. When refreshing with sprays, keep in mind some [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) molecules stick on the skin longer than others. Ex: None, sticks very good, lasting like 6 hours opposed to IO which doesn’t last as long. Ammo has some Alpha Androstenol in it (key component to IO), so your Alpha Nols are dieing out at the end of the party and looks like you are getting stuck with just the -none signature. ---
**Author:** ![gforcex7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b38774/32.png) [@gforcex7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gforcex7)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 4:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/weird-effect-on-pheromones/60094/12 "2013-09-27T16:21:16Z")
You’re pretty much spot on. That makes total sense. But sucks, who has the time to refresh when I’m focusing on partying lol. Maybe try oils? ---
**Author:** ![XyzN](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xyzn/32/2416_2.png) [@XyzN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XyzN)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 5:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/weird-effect-on-pheromones/60094/13 "2013-09-27T17:26:53Z")
Oils have a slower diffusion rate than sprays/alcohol. Meaning basically: +Longer lasting effects;more potency -Less range; takes longer for effects Oils are usually jam packed with pheromones to be able to compete with sprays, that’s why they are very expensive. The short range also means it takes longer for the effects to arise, usually you have to spend a couple minutes with someone(s) for the effects to start taking hold. But they do generally last a lot more longer. Most oils I know last like 6 to 9 hours avg. in almost full power. Also keep in mind, Oils are best suited for hot environments/seasons. Being as slow as they are, using in cold environments only slows it even further and you may not even be able to get the mones anywhere beyond a foot of you lol. For parties, I’d still say sprays work best because there are tons of other guys competing with their own pheromones and their own presence, so you’ll need the fast kick & the extra range the sprays give you. Unless you plan on partying for 6 to 9 hours I guess and if you are able to hold onto people for longer periods of time, but I’d still rather use sprays for their fast acting effects than the oil which takes time for it to start working, just my opinion. Or use both sprays and oils Oil based/spray enone mix applied to lower neck, right above chest and spray version of other mones everywhere else. That way when you get a girl close to you after opening to her with socials/comfort mones, she gets a nice hit of enone. Score. Instead of enone hitting her right off the bat if you applied to arms or something. Some girls like that though, but this can cause her to be nervous as you are a stranger at first. This is why enone products are nice applied right under the neckline of shirt or on the neck only. So they don’t scare them off and gives you time to meet with them. ---
**Author:** ![gforcex7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b38774/32.png) [@gforcex7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gforcex7)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2013, 8:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/weird-effect-on-pheromones/60094/14 "2013-09-27T20:03:40Z")
Brilliant! One question I was wondering if wearing a mone can be different for everyone? How can I see which blends suits me? I have came to a enlightening discovery of realizing how some mones I have used don’t work the same as they used too. Possibly because my body’s chemistry & hormones are changing from working out. As I have been researching this & would like your opinion on it. ---
**Author:** ![XyzN](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xyzn/32/2416_2.png) [@XyzN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XyzN)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2013, 10:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/weird-effect-on-pheromones/60094/15 "2013-09-28T10:07:45Z")
Results is what you’re talking about right? If so, yes, everyone gets different results. Some people get blatant results, other subtle results. For instance, older women are more attracted to enone than younger girls are, so if you read up on these forums, you’ll read how some guys are scoring all the time, but you have to take their age into the matter as well. Test, you don’t know and no body else knows what blends/mones work best for you. Sounds like a chore, but getting the hang of each mone instead of throwing on a random combination of things and hoping for the best isn’t very economical for your wallet. For your mones that don’t seem to be working as they used to some ideas that pop into my head: -Changing your daily activities; -Change of behavior; You may of had a change of behavior(s) since wearing mones. Maybe your self-effects or placebo-state-of-mind when you first started drived a certain behavior in you that got results for you…as time went on, your behaviors might of changed or that behavior died down. Like you said, working out now will start having your body produce more natural enone than before, but keep in mind what else could of changed over since the very beginning. -Hanging around the same people with the same mix(es) a lot; the longer you hang around people, ex, friends and family, the less of an effect your mones have on them each repeat exposure. This is crucial to avoiding the “friend-zone” from women. or being in it if you don’t mind. You have to, no pun intended, mix it up from time to time. Either having to increase/decrease dosages or using different products instead…or even not wearing pheros some days :gasp: -You got used to the Hits; How was the first time you got a solid nice hit? Probably felt nice knowing mones did the job. Let’s say it was a 2 second glance from a girl. Fast forward 4 months or something. You see these type of things happening quite often and don’t take into consideration these hits and are unconsciously looking for bigger hits instead. Always keep a eye out for the most subtle hits, those are most likely the ones you can easily let fly over your head if not attentive. -Pheromones over time; Something could of happened to your mones since the beginning. Possible something you didn’t notice happened, but I doubt this is the cause. One thing is not letting direct sunlight hit the bottles as that drains the mones for instance. ---
**Author:** ![gforcex7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b38774/32.png) [@gforcex7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gforcex7)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2013, 11:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/weird-effect-on-pheromones/60094/16 "2013-09-28T11:33:05Z")
There’s a lot point mentioned here that is on point. It could possibly be my behavior have changed over a period of time. I noticed when I would wear the same mone like ammo, I might give off weird vibes. Before the first hit was very noticeable. Probably the most unbelievable thing I have noticed. But because I took a break from working out & my cockiness went down, I might have low test which produce less enone. I remember taking supplements to increase testosterone which made me cocky, happy, talkative, attracted to girls, like wearing natural mones. I definitely will take this post in consideration & analyze it more in depth. Because it would be a possibility that the mones are having a different effect cuz my body isn’t producing the natural mones like they used too. Btw, are the mones effective when on a person or just by itself. Say you let someone spell a bottle of ammo or you spray it in the air while at a party. Would people behavior change? ---
**Author:** ![XyzN](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xyzn/32/2416_2.png) [@XyzN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XyzN)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2013, 11:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/weird-effect-on-pheromones/60094/17 "2013-09-28T11:58:32Z")
Yes it would, only if they have something to associate that feeling with. Example: You spray a cactus plant with Ammo with a girl standing near it. Nothing is going to happen because the sexual feeling she is getting, she can’t find someone to associate it with. We have self-control, she won’t allow herself to think that the cactus is sexy lmao. At a party this is different, just spraying it in the air, where there are multiple people, will rile everyone up and make everyone more prone to sexual feelings since there are people to associate that with. This is also why you don’t want to have too much range at times. You wouldn’t need a 20 ft radius scent when its just you and a buddy going out to have some fun. Him being close to you, and lets say more physically attractive than you, could effectively steal your pheromone cloud and women can think he’s the one sending out those signals. Also the reason you have to stay congruent with the vibe you put out, so it makes women believe more that you are indeed the kind of person your vibe sends out. ---
**Author:** ![gforcex7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b38774/32.png) [@gforcex7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gforcex7)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2013, 12:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/weird-effect-on-pheromones/60094/18 "2013-09-28T12:06:19Z")
Hahaha, cactus. That’s funny. Okay so basically its the mones itself giving off the signal, not it mixing with the person’s natural mones to mix it giving off a natural signature. ---
**Author:** ![XyzN](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xyzn/32/2416_2.png) [@XyzN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XyzN)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2013, 12:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/weird-effect-on-pheromones/60094/19 "2013-09-28T12:16:12Z")
Synthetic or not, our brains can’t tell much a difference, if at all. You want to take into account your own amount of mones your body produces & adjust your doses accordingly, namely -enone is the only one you need to worry about. ---
**Author:** ![hankypanky2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hankypanky2/32/597_2.png) [@hankypanky2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hankypanky2)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 6:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/weird-effect-on-pheromones/60094/20 "2013-10-01T06:48:40Z")
since u are pretty young u alredy have a high enone pheromone naturally! [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/weird-effect-on-pheromones/60094.md?page=2)