# Went out with IS IH and AMMO today some comments **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 27, 2013, 2:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/went-out-with-is-ih-and-ammo-today-some-comments/59116 "2013-05-27T14:14:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 2\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2013, 2:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/went-out-with-is-ih-and-ammo-today-some-comments/59116/1 "2013-05-27T14:14:16Z")
Went out with 4 sprays shine, 2 sprays ammo reg strength world, 2 sprays IH. In the afternoon i noticed blondes looking in my direction. At a cafe I talked to this one blonde young 20 year old girl and she started telling me about her career and what she wants to do once she graduates. She told me how she wants to work for a gym and then one day own one.. Wow didn’t expect this.. I thought with other girls I come on to fast and scare them off so with her I just introduced myself and know I’ll run it to her more times in the future when I want to take things further (IF). then at night I went out to a nutrition house and asked the girl I saw last time (last time I wore IS p75 ammo IO) this time I wore just IS AMMO IH. I noticed she talked and opened up to me quite a bit but either I was too serious blurting out questions or she was too busy finding accurate answers but there was no excitement just calm social interaction. One thing I noticed with both these girls they didn’t notice me when I walked in. They also didn’t keep a lot of eye contact on me for one reason or another, and I didn’t keep a lot of eye contact with them .. i found I spent more time in thought than I did in seduction. All in all I think this mix brings people closer but it may not be so good for attraction. Without the laughs and smiles, and calm posture I get from p75 I don’t feel the sexual buzz. But with IS ammo IH I feel more connected but not necessarily as more than friends. Now how accurate is my description compared to YOUR experiences? Without p75 I felt there was no suppression of a woman’s nature but also my feelings of masculinity were replaced by feelings of kindness and husbandry. The problem with p75 is sometimes it leaves me lucid even at 2.5 mcg and self effects don’t always hit when I want (sometimes they take 4 -6 hrs before peak performance. Sometimes during the initial exposure to p75 I am too aggressive and may make women think I’m coming on too strong and scare away the girls). Now I personally think Ih is great for guys who are not good at talking with women like me.. You see it makes you state opinions abotu yourself and others that you normally wouldn’t , thereby contributing to conversation. Problem is I dont’ know if I may have stated some opinions that may of come across as rude and blunt . I think this mix is best when you have only deep discussions left on the table. Its not really meant when you want to be carefree. Yet when I’m carefree and dont’ state my opinions I often run out of things to talk about and conversation is a dud. So you see the problem. Well I didn’t mess up with this girl I simply stayed in the I know you better zone but not the I want you zone. Also one other thing I felt fear.. there were many times I was not around the women (both cases) and I noticed they weren’t looking at me.. its as if I was off their radar. They only noticed me when I was standing near them. I don’t like this.. I want to feel noticed with mones not just when Im talking. I’m going to go back to IS AMMO p75 IO but don’t know if for my particular case I’m better off throwing in some IH since I’m not the best conversationalist. DANGER zone.. wrong topics may be brought up leading to a dead end to early before attraction has been generated. Comments? Do you have similar stories comparing these 2 mixes side by side? ---
**Author:** ![Wyatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Wyatt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wyatt)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 5:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/went-out-with-is-ih-and-ammo-today-some-comments/59116/2 "2013-05-28T05:56:25Z")
Instant Shinex2+IHx1+AMMOx2 is great for initiating a connection. [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) has people feeling good. IH helps I find mainly on just opening me up on a deeper level and letting my true self shine, which although strange is far more interesting than the front I put on. She’ll also let her guard down and just open up. For one-on-one with a woman I’d totally recommend it over IO which is better for livening up a group or party. Ammo of course helps mega just with IOI. Once you see IOI, more often than not, just approach and work your game. As for suggestions: Been finding IG helps with status (yet to try A314 or other status products). People salute me, weird minor celeb, kinda liking it, still strange though. Doesn’t seem to have too much of a down side so far. It also broadens the range of women that find me attractive. I’m not sure if this will help you here, but I’m really finding it to the be the edge in a social mix and lends nicely to turning things sexual as she is already pre-disposed to better think of you as mating material. You might want to try that instead of P75 as IG really is a nice mix. I’m also finding TUTHx2 plus TAC (60 mcg) and A1 (40 to 80 mcg) add a very nice sexual edge to the above. The TAC is to buffer the TUTH. (I’m totally fine with A-1 up to 100mcg so far. Love the scent, seems mildly positive on me). I’d suggest opening with Instant Shine, IH, AMMO + IG and TAC, then when you think the time is right sneak away and slap on spray of TUTH. Yet to mix in P83. I’ve had too many bad trips with it pre- my IG, IO, IH and TAC (30mcg) purchases. I can tell the stuff works, but I ODed a few times with TUTH pre-TAC and the P83 amped a creepy vibe I was giving off with it, so trying to regrow my pair to use the stuff. It was also bad to wear to an interview as it took my nervousness and kicked it up a fair bit and I blew a dream job, but nailed a very, very good job the very next days sans mones.