# Went to a bar last night; first time using pheros - VERY interesting results **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 22, 2007, 9:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/went-to-a-bar-last-night-first-time-using-pheros-very-interesting-results/7687 "2007-12-22T21:12:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![FRANCO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e19b73/32.png) [@FRANCO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FRANCO)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2007, 9:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/went-to-a-bar-last-night-first-time-using-pheros-very-interesting-results/7687/1 "2007-12-22T21:12:41Z")
First, a background on who I am normally. Usually, when I go out to clubs/bars, I’m the one who doesn’t really talk that much, I usually react to people and always found that no one really has an actual conversation with me (it’s sad, but i was ok with it)…kinda long, but i think it’s worth the read 😃 Last night, before I went out, of course I dressed my best, but here’s what I used: 1 spray of [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) on my wrists (sprayed on one wrist and rubbed them together) 2 sprays of Instant Shine on my neck(one on the front, one on the back) 1 spray of Ammo on my chest My friend (who i kinda just met) and I went with 3 girls (who i just met) and met up with my other 2 friends (girls), then we met up with another group of girls (5 of them). I noticed the difference as soon as I sat in the car full of girls, they were all asking me question about myself and really being open. And I’m not only talking about normal chit chat, I’m talking really personal SEX questions in which they responded with their experiences. One of the girls would even blatantly grab (i mean GRAB) my knee, even my friend (guy) noticed it. We get to the bar, and we met up with the girls. Now we’re all having a good time, and I’m talking up a storm. Like all of a sudden I’m the focus of the conversations (please keep in mind my background above). I notice the group of girls we were with pointing and looking at me, then coming to me and asking if I liked so and so girl (we’re all 24-26 btw). I started eyeing one girl, and we start talking…however, I find out she had a bf, but she was still into the convo (no worries here, don’t want to disrespect anyone). Well, I didn’t want to end the night without a number, so i start talking to the other group of girls we met up with, and they were all asking me to come with them tomorrow to go to a bar in Santa Monica…My other friends over heard this and said "NO, he’s suppose to come with us bar hopping in Fullerton tomorrow)…I was seriously thinking…this cannot be real… Overall, I am really satisfied with the results…It worked exactly as i expected. It wasn’t a magnet for girls, but it gave me the courage to just go up to talk to the girls and they responded VERY differently than before. And I wasn’t even drunk! (3 beers)😃 Oh yea, there’s probably a lot more other stuff that I “noticed” too but those are too small to list, but definitely a good sign oh yea again, my friend who’s normally the life of the party and he just talks it up with everyone, was surprisingly quiet tonight, and all the girls were asking me if something was wrong with him…side-effects of the pheros? maybe ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2007, 9:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/went-to-a-bar-last-night-first-time-using-pheros-very-interesting-results/7687/2 "2007-12-22T21:25:53Z")
> [@](#): > > Overall, I am really satisfied with the results…It worked exactly as i expected. It wasn’t a magnet for girls, but it gave me the courage to just go up to talk to the girls and they responded VERY differently than before. And I wasn’t even drunk! (3 beers)😃 10% pheros 90% you! Now if I can just figure out how to consistently find myself in a car full of 24 year women. 🙂 Good report Franco! ---
**Author:** ![Eslite119](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eslite119/32/176_2.png) [@Eslite119](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eslite119)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2007, 10:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/went-to-a-bar-last-night-first-time-using-pheros-very-interesting-results/7687/3 "2007-12-22T22:39:11Z")
Environment, you (persona), and pheros all blended well togethter. Nice report! “oh yea again, my friend who’s normally the life of the party and he just talks it up with everyone, was surprisingly quiet tonight, and all the girls were asking me if something was wrong with him…side-effects of the pheros? maybe” I highly doubt that your friend was somewhat negatively effected by pheros. Maybe he saw you taking the floor (break in routine from his eyes) and just wanted to let you be, or he got all confused by what was happening. ---
**Author:** ![Shap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Shap](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Shap)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 7:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/went-to-a-bar-last-night-first-time-using-pheros-very-interesting-results/7687/4 "2007-12-24T07:18:48Z")
cool be a really good friend 🙂 and not stealing your moment ---
**Author:** ![spurs61](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/spurs61/32/666_2.png) [@spurs61](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/spurs61)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 11:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/went-to-a-bar-last-night-first-time-using-pheros-very-interesting-results/7687/5 "2007-12-27T23:09:53Z")
Good report and some good results kudos 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![alpha\_wolf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alpha_wolf/32/1800_2.png) [@alpha\_wolf](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alpha_wolf)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2007, 7:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/went-to-a-bar-last-night-first-time-using-pheros-very-interesting-results/7687/6 "2007-12-31T07:17:38Z")
Wow. So many girls. I am slightly jealous 🙂 Bring a PUA with you next time and you’ll probably get a 3some, 4, maybe 5 set orgy. Jokes aside, It IS possible that because you were the only few guys with so many girls, this automatically creates an unbalanced supply / demand ratio, which you can use to your advantage. I would say, try the same combo just going out with the boys, then you’ll know if it is the phero’s working or not. In situations where there are so many girls and the energy is high, the women are horny and it can become a feeding frenzy, even if you are not the most bad ass/masculine type of guy. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Stam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/76d3ee/32.png) [@Max\_Stam](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Max_Stam)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2008, 9:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/went-to-a-bar-last-night-first-time-using-pheros-very-interesting-results/7687/7 "2008-01-04T21:31:40Z")
> [@alpha\_wolf](#): > > Wow. So many girls. I am slightly jealous 🙂 Bring a PUA with you next time and you’ll probably get a 3some, 4, maybe 5 set orgy. > > Jokes aside, > > It IS possible that because you were the only few guys with so many girls, this automatically creates an unbalanced supply / demand ratio, which you can use to your advantage. I would say, try the same combo just going out with the boys, then you’ll know if it is the phero’s working or not. In situations where there are so many girls and the energy is high, the women are horny and it can become a feeding frenzy, even if you are not the most bad ass/masculine type of guy. Whats a PUA? Pick-Up Artist? ---
**Author:** ![spurs61](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/spurs61/32/666_2.png) [@spurs61](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/spurs61)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 10:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/went-to-a-bar-last-night-first-time-using-pheros-very-interesting-results/7687/8 "2008-01-19T10:08:46Z")
Hi Max Stam, Yes a PUAs short for pick up artist. The is a whole community devoted to the art of pick up. One of the more noted exponents of this genre is Mystery if you look at the top of this page there is a link to his site. He is featured in the book by Neill Struass (aka Style) The Game. There are other methods too ie David DeAngelo’s cocky funny methods, Badboy [Lifestyle.com](http://Lifestyle.com) etc. They have their own language ie PUA and AFC (average frustrated chump) are the most notable. Basically they have developed methods that will transform an ordinary guy with no luck with women into a guy women want to be wtih. Some good stuff in what they say bit not all of it should be taken as gospel.🙂 Hope this helps. ---
**Author:** ![MrJazzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aca169/32.png) [@MrJazzer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MrJazzer)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 3:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/went-to-a-bar-last-night-first-time-using-pheros-very-interesting-results/7687/9 "2008-01-28T03:36:18Z")
Excellent results. The real you seems to be emerging 😉 I want to go to that bar in Santa Monica. ---
**Author:** ![alpha\_wolf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alpha_wolf/32/1800_2.png) [@alpha\_wolf](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alpha_wolf)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 3:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/went-to-a-bar-last-night-first-time-using-pheros-very-interesting-results/7687/10 "2008-01-28T03:47:45Z")
As well defined (in a general public format) on Wikipedia: “A **pickup artist** , commonly abbreviated **PUA** ,[1] ([Pickup artist - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pick_Up_Artist#_note-0)) is a term used to describe a man who is skilled in meeting, attracting, and [seducing](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seduction) women. The use of “pickup” in this context, [slang](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slang) for making a casual acquaintance with a stranger in anticipation of sexual relations,[2] ([Pickup artist - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pick_Up_Artist#_note-1)) dates from at least 1970 and the book _How to Pick Up Girls_ by Eric Weber, and _Pick-Up Times_, a short-lived 1970s magazine, culminating in the 1987 semi-autobiographical film, _[The Pick-up Artist](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pick-up_Artist_%28film%29)_, written and directed by [James Toback](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Toback).[3] ([Pickup artist - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pick_Up_Artist#_note-2)) The term is also associated with the [seduction community](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seduction_community), a male [subculture](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subculture) based on the goal of improved sexual and romantic abilities with women using [self-help](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-help), an understanding of [social psychology](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_psychology) and techniques derived from [Neuro-linguistic programming](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming). The term received increased attention in 2005 upon the arrival of [Neil Strauss’](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Strauss) bestselling book, _[The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game:_Penetrating_the_Secret_Society_of_Pickup_Artists)_, also in 2007, from the [reality television](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality_television) series, _[The Pick-up Artist](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pick-up_Artist_%28TV_series%29)_, shown on [VH1](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VH1), starring [Mystery](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_%28seduction_guru%29), a well-known pickup artist.”