# What are putative pheromones, and are they what AMMO and A314 are made of?

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [January 26, 2007, 5:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-are-putative-pheromones-and-are-they-what-ammo-and-a314-are-made-of/1771 "2007-01-26T05:23:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![integr8r](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/integr8r/32/373_2.png) [@integr8r](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/integr8r)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 5:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-are-putative-pheromones-and-are-they-what-ammo-and-a314-are-made-of/1771/1 "2007-01-26T05:23:58Z")

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Ok, so I’m checking out the Smartmones store, and I’m wondering what exactly are the [Putative Pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/product-category/advanced-pheromones/putative-pheromones/). There’s no real description for each one, so it’s not really telling me anything. The best I can guess is that combinations of these are what make up some of the more “packaged” products, like AMMO and A314. Am I even close to the mark on this? 😕

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**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 5:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-are-putative-pheromones-and-are-they-what-ammo-and-a314-are-made-of/1771/2 "2007-01-26T05:39:48Z")

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Putative just means “thought to possibly be” … so these are molecules that may or may not be pheromones, they are “suspects” or “candidates.” The putatives (Pnn) may be included in MXnnn concoctions, but are not (AFAIK) ingredients in consumer products like TUTH or [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) or A314.

The “TAx” series are considered to be proven to act as pheromones .. although the method of action and results are still open to interpretation. TAA is an element of Instant Shine, for example, so TAx molecules do go into consumer products.

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**Author:** ![integr8r](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/integr8r/32/373_2.png) [@integr8r](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/integr8r)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 5:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-are-putative-pheromones-and-are-they-what-ammo-and-a314-are-made-of/1771/3 "2007-01-26T05:46:06Z")

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OK, I see. Thanks for clearing that up. I’m still waiting for my original order to arrive, though it’s only been a couple of days, but I’m already kinda curious about mixing up some stuff of my own. I think I’ll wait though, still so much to learn for this little grasshopper!😃

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**Author:** ![Matthew1982ct](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/matthew1982ct/32/1157_2.png) [@Matthew1982ct](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matthew1982ct)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 6:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-are-putative-pheromones-and-are-they-what-ammo-and-a314-are-made-of/1771/4 "2007-01-26T06:57:25Z")

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I have only tried P79, as it was listed as the best-selling Putative at the time. Used 6 sprays last Saturday; along with loads more (was experimenting, to put it mildly)… Not sure if it was the P79 but had decent results; as described in my Super Trooper Mix post.

Matt

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**Author:** ![saraunne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/saraunne/32/193_2.png) [@saraunne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/saraunne)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 7:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-are-putative-pheromones-and-are-they-what-ammo-and-a314-are-made-of/1771/5 "2007-01-26T07:25:42Z")

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They say P-79 makes you very focused.

I sprayed some on to do homework, and ended up playing online games for a good three hours… at least I was focused doing that.

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**Author:** ![Matthew1982ct](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/matthew1982ct/32/1157_2.png) [@Matthew1982ct](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matthew1982ct)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 7:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-are-putative-pheromones-and-are-they-what-ammo-and-a314-are-made-of/1771/6 "2007-01-26T07:55:02Z")

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I have 80% of a 30ml bottle left. Keen to experiment with it. Just tentative as I’ve heard people say it’s -none like; and younger girls might not like it so much.

Matt

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**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2007, 11:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-are-putative-pheromones-and-are-they-what-ammo-and-a314-are-made-of/1771/7 "2007-01-26T11:25:29Z")

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> Ok, so I’m checking out the Smartmones store, and I’m wondering what exactly are the Putative Pheromones. There’s no real description for each one, so it’s not really telling me anything.

Putatives, like Mark said, are pheromone suspects. Molecules we’re intensely testing for pheromonal activity. Some of them, like P79, are proving to be [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) with slick effects of their own. Others we still don’t know a lot about.

We don’t list what they do, or what we even THINK they might do on the site, because we want to get your honest feedback. We don’t want to lead anyone’s opinion beforehand because that skews the perceived results. We’re into pushing the technology forward as best we can, and that takes feedback. 🙂

Some of the P series has shown some really cool activity, and we don’t even want to call them “putatives” anymore.

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> The putatives (Pnn) may be included in MXnnn concoctions, but are not (AFAIK) ingredients in consumer products like Turn Up The Heat or Instant Honesty or A314.

Actually, some of the more active putatives have been showing up in newer revisions of some of our products, like A314 and TUTH.
