# What does 'average vagina' mean in an article on copulins?

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**Created:** [February 21, 2007, 1:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-does-average-vagina-mean-in-an-article-on-copulins/15091 "2007-02-21T01:59:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 1:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-does-average-vagina-mean-in-an-article-on-copulins/15091/1 "2007-02-21T01:59:30Z")

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heya. If this is supposed to be in the lounge, please feel free to move it.

I was reading the following link on copulins and kinda got stuck:

> [@Copulins: pheromone excerpts from The Science of Sex](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins/1601):
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> [Pheromone excerpts from The Science of Sex](http://www.sexualtips.net/excerpts_pheromones.htm) While that pheromone may have been a dud, there are [pheromones](https://a314.com/) which play some role in sexual attraction. A subclass of pheromones called copulins has been identified in vaginal secretions just before ovulation, which are thought to play a role in stimulating the sexual interest of males. Since women are most apt to become pregnant around ovulation, it is not surprising that nature has contrived a means to facilitate intercourse at that time. Interest…

would someone please explain what “average vagina” is?

I’m not trying to bait, or stir up controversy or anything.

i really have never heard of anything like grades of vagina before, i mean we always hear about size and the various pros and cons of such, but i didn’t know that physically vaginas came in different grades. I thought it came down to the woman and her kegels. 😕

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**Author:** ![LaurieNY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bbce88/32.png) [@LaurieNY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LaurieNY)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 2:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-does-average-vagina-mean-in-an-article-on-copulins/15091/2 "2007-02-21T02:07:13Z")

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I’m no male, but I just assumed that meant average in terms of copulin production.

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**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 2:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-does-average-vagina-mean-in-an-article-on-copulins/15091/3 "2007-02-21T02:16:15Z")

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Well I didn’t read it that way - I thought the author was specifically talking about physical vaginal attributes.

“…I’ve noticed that if I spend time next to certain women, my sexual sensitivity goes from disappointing to wonderful. Ordinarily, when the sensitivity is poor, **it takes a very pleasurable stimulus like a great vagina** for me to obtain much sexual satisfaction… My current girlfriend is beautiful, sexy, intelligent, fun, and interesting. She is just about everything a man could hope for, **except that her vagina is just average** , and she evidently does not produce copulins. Intercourse with her gives me mediocre pleasure, except when my dates with her were preceded by extended proximity to a copulin-producing woman…”

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**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 2:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-does-average-vagina-mean-in-an-article-on-copulins/15091/4 "2007-02-21T02:27:10Z")

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I’d say that “average vagina” would be a rating. I personaly find some vaginas more appealing than other in terms of apearance. Some women are very loose and it’s visual aparent. That’s not exactly a turn on. Other women are very small and you can tell by looking that they would be rather tight.

The general rule of thum is, the smaller and or tighter the better. That of course changes if the guy has an unusualy large penis, in which case a small girl may be problimatic due to depth of penitration or pain induced.

The rating he assigned may be related to copulin production as well, but I think it’s more of a tightness/depth/apearance thing.

I haven’t ever hear the term “average vagine.” I actualy find it laughable that somebody would even say that.

She’s either tight, or loose. Other than that it wouldn’t be a conversation topic as it’s not the main focus. Getting the action would be the focus. Have the girl be a tight is just a bonus, and would probably be noted when bragging to his friends that he had in dead gotten some action.

On the other side I would feel like I needed to go get tested if I slept with a woman who was excedingly loose. So then vagina rating might be brought up out of personal concern.

I may vary for other men, but i’ve never heard of men talking about vagina ratings much.

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**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 2:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-does-average-vagina-mean-in-an-article-on-copulins/15091/5 "2007-02-21T02:33:49Z")

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thanks toilofday! loose vs tight i can understand. I really thought there is some whole new vagina scale that I knew nothing about. And I’ve had soem frank discussions with people, so it was surprising. I was about to call my Yoda out on Hawaii and ask him, but didn’t want to interrupt him at work.

Can i jsut say I’ve got this mental image now of guys with placards:

5.0 (that’s france) 7.5 7.0 6.5 8.0

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**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 2:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-does-average-vagina-mean-in-an-article-on-copulins/15091/6 "2007-02-21T02:38:08Z")

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Um…I didn’t actualy answer the direct question. Average IMO would be a girl that is of average tighness, and depth. She doesn’t have a tiny vagina like one would expect an asian, chinese, or generaly very small statured women to be; and she is not loose. She has probably had a normal amount of sexual occurances.

From the sounds of this guys report his girl needs to learn a few tricks. An average vagina can be just as stimulating as any other vagina. I boils down to the effort, skill, and knowing your partner.

Tighter is better IMO. Sorry if you find this vulger. I’m just being honest.

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**Author:** ![LaurieNY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bbce88/32.png) [@LaurieNY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LaurieNY)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 2:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-does-average-vagina-mean-in-an-article-on-copulins/15091/7 "2007-02-21T02:40:07Z")

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Nunya, that’s hilarious.

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> The rating he assigned may be related to copulin production as well, but I think it’s more of a tightness/depth/apearance thing.

Ah. Didn’t pick up on that possibility. Thanks, toil.

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**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 2:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-does-average-vagina-mean-in-an-article-on-copulins/15091/8 "2007-02-21T02:40:50Z")

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no - i’m not offended. i think tightness is also subjective, as you hinted at in your first post.

but i don’t know that it would be entirely accurate to correlate between stature and size, tho. just like it’s not that way with men, i don’t think it’s that way with women. granted i haven’t inspected much vagina to say one way or the other.

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**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 2:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-does-average-vagina-mean-in-an-article-on-copulins/15091/9 "2007-02-21T02:58:39Z")

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> …i don’t know that it would be entirely accurate to correlate between stature and size, tho. just like it’s not that way with men, i don’t think it’s that way with women. granted i haven’t inspected much vagina to say one way or the other.

I think stature works unidirectionaly with women for the most part. Very tiny ladies 5ft 100 -110 (i’m bad with weight, so that may be in the anarexic weight range) most likely would have small reproductive organs as they are an internal feature. Now I wouldn’t say that a taller girl would have larger reproductive organs simply because she is taller. In fact she could have smaller organs than the 5ft tall “spinner” as many men would say. Size is very related to genetics, and i’d assume that very tiny girls would have the genes for smaller reproductive organs.

With men I think the equation is a little different as the penis is an extremedy of sorts and therefore is not constricted by the internal volume of the male, so genetics can allow for a small statured man to have a ginormous penis.

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**Author:** ![chirimoya](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chirimoya/32/1538_2.png) [@chirimoya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chirimoya)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 4:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-does-average-vagina-mean-in-an-article-on-copulins/15091/10 "2007-02-21T04:49:32Z")

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just curious, does “tightness” mean the tightness/looseness of the external parts of the vagina, like the labia? because would the external parts correlate to the internal tightness? isn’t it possible to have larger folds of skin in the labia and a tight vagina? is age related to how tight/loose the labia are?

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**Author:** ![LaurieNY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bbce88/32.png) [@LaurieNY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LaurieNY)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 4:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-does-average-vagina-mean-in-an-article-on-copulins/15091/11 "2007-02-21T04:55:41Z")

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> Very tiny ladies 5ft 100 -110 (i’m bad with weight, so that may be in the anarexic weight range)

Not exactly on topic, but coming from a tiny girl, it’s not an anorexic weight range; it’s just too small a range. A lady of my height could be perfectly healthy another 10 pounds in either direction, maybe even 15.
