# What does P83 do as a stand-alone product, and what are good mixes without Ammo?

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**Created:** [March 7, 2012, 11:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-does-p83-do-as-a-stand-alone-product-and-what-are-good-mixes-without-ammo/54842 "2012-03-07T11:19:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![agascy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bcef8e/32.png) [@agascy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/agascy)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 11:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-does-p83-do-as-a-stand-alone-product-and-what-are-good-mixes-without-ammo/54842/1 "2012-03-07T11:19:11Z")

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im trying to read as much as i can but cant seem to find what p83 does as a stand alone product? also good mixes that dont involve ammo because i really dont like the smell of ammo is 2 powerfull and i like to mix my own cologne which is not possible when using ammo, i read that p75 is very sexual but in what way compared to tuth or ij ? and what are good mixes for that ?  
thank you 😃

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**Author:** ![classicalflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@classicalflower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/classicalflower)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 12:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-does-p83-do-as-a-stand-alone-product-and-what-are-good-mixes-without-ammo/54842/2 "2012-03-07T12:10:25Z")

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Just started experimenting with p83 myself - truly amazing stuff! Any inhibitions I have go out the window and i’m very sexually forward. Presuming other women respond in this way as well - surely i’m not the only one! LOL

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 12:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-does-p83-do-as-a-stand-alone-product-and-what-are-good-mixes-without-ammo/54842/3 "2012-03-07T12:20:21Z")

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P83 - stick “putative guide” into search and you will find any number of threads describing its basic properties.

Basically, it’s a disinhibitor/space reducer.

There are lots of good threads on P75 too - Gent has some great stuff in his journal but it’s a strange one, don’t look for comparisons with IJ or TUTH. it also needs lots of social moderation. I’ve been getting great results with it and [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/)/390 around more usually none-sensitive subjects like younger women and Asians