# what else works?? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 20, 2007, 4:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-else-works/2602 "2007-03-20T16:18:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Pharcyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b2d939/32.png) [@Pharcyde](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pharcyde)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 4:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-else-works/2602/1 "2007-03-20T16:18:19Z")
other than stuff from androtics and pherlure, are any products any good?? i hear a lot of “the edge” and “scent of eros”. im sure theres too few good ones available to test everything. ---
**Author:** ![scott99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@scott99](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scott99)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 12:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-else-works/2602/2 "2007-03-21T00:37:26Z")
> [@Pharcyde](#): > > other than stuff from Androtics and pherlure, are any products any good?? i hear a lot of “the edge” and “scent of eros”. im sure theres too few good ones available to test everything. Love-Scent (makers of The Edge & Scent of Eros) is very similar to this sight, a very informative forum, similar products and similar claims by loyal customers. Unfortunately, they have terrible customer service, I ordered The Edge Feb 24th, and it still hasn’t gotten here, I cancelled my order today. Supposedly “The Edge” is similar to Turn Up The Heat, supposed to be very sexual. I read an article by a woman experimenting with pheros, and she and her husband were supposedly like rabbits after using “The Edge”, as opposed to other [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/). I’m sure there are several sights like this one, probably dozens. ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 1:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-else-works/2602/3 "2007-03-21T01:23:15Z")
> [@Pharcyde](#): > > other than stuff from Androtics and pherlure, are any products any good?? i hear a lot of “the edge” and “scent of eros”. im sure theres too few good ones available to test everything. There are to many scams out there to know for sure, and quality of pheromones may be a factor. Chinese pheromones are cheaper but because of the lack of regulations in China, they could send you table salt and tell you it’s androstenol crystals. If you do get what you ordered the purity could be low. Some companies use these unfavorable sources for there products. Best to stick with the known products. ---
**Author:** ![The\_GQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@The\_GQ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_GQ)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 1:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-else-works/2602/4 "2007-03-21T01:31:58Z")
> [@toilofday](#): > > There are to many scams out there to know for sure, and quality of pheromones may be a factor. Chinese pheromones are cheaper but because of the lack of regulations in China, they could send you table salt and tell you it’s androstenol crystals. If you do get what you ordered the purity could be low. Some companies use these unfavorable sources for there products. > > Best to stick with the known products. I concur, it’s reason as such Toil stated is why I will always continue to use Androtics as my pherosource. ---
**Author:** ![scott99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@scott99](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scott99)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 1:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-else-works/2602/5 "2007-03-21T01:41:52Z")
> [@toilofday](#): > > There are to many scams out there to know for sure, and quality of pheromones may be a factor. Chinese pheromones are cheaper but because of the lack of regulations in China, they could send you table salt and tell you it’s androstenol crystals. If you do get what you ordered the purity could be low. Some companies use these unfavorable sources for there products. > > Best to stick with the known products. Look, I like this website and I don’t want to be banned, but whose to say that this or any other pheros website doesn’t use table salt and claims it’s androstenol crystals ? All the pheros sold here say that they contain Human Musk. Can You prove unequivicably that they actually do contain Human Musk ? Are all you experts chemists ? Who have broken down all the elements of the products you’ve bought from Androtics to prove they aren’t BS ? C’Mon, let’s not get all high and mighty just because you ONLY purchase products from this company. Who’s to say which company is the real deal and who are the con artists. ---
**Author:** ![jpballerina](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jpballerina/32/1004_2.png) [@jpballerina](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jpballerina)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 2:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-else-works/2602/6 "2007-03-21T02:02:27Z")
I certainly didn’t start my phero experience with Androtics, but let me tell you, it ended my search for the real deal. The stuff works, plain and simple, and I’ve shopped around. It’s basically a hobby. There are several other people on this forum who have been using pheros for years (Lor, Dolly, Ali), and the reason they’ve planted themselves here is because they work. I’m sure there are other genuine companies out there, but I only needed to find one to get the products I wanted. And actually, on the women’s forum, it’s not uncommon for us to share other places we’ve found great stuff! If it’s good quality and works, believe me, we want our friends to know. But likewise, if it’s crap and customer service is bad, believe me, we want our friends to know. Love scent sells The Edge (which several people here use) and Essence of Women (which most in the ladies forum, including myself, SWEAR by), but their customer sevice is poor. I still go there to get the Essence of Woman, but not a whole lot else. It’s nice here cause you can call up jasmin (the owner and runner of the ship) and talk to her yourself, not just some recorded message. She genuninely cares about the quality of her products and her customer service, not to mention that she’s freakin hilarious. If you find another company that has great products, please share! Cause trust me, we are all open to anything new and exciting that WORKS. Androtics is NOT the only place to find it, but it’s certainly my favorite. 😃 Oh, and did I mention that Jasmin has a 200% money back guarantee? xoxo jp ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 2:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-else-works/2602/7 "2007-03-21T02:04:33Z")
> [@scott99](#): > > Look, I like this website and I don’t want to be banned, but whose to say that this or any other pheros website doesn’t use table salt and claims it’s androstenol crystals ? All the pheros sold here say that they contain Human Musk. Can You prove unequivicably that they actually do contain Human Musk ? Are all you experts chemists ? Who have broken down all the elements of the products you’ve bought from Androtics to prove they aren’t BS ? C’Mon, let’s not get all high and mighty just because you ONLY purchase products from this company. Who’s to say which company is the real deal and who are the con artists. You won’t get banned by any means, but androtics uses only american made pheromones. There are regulations in the US protecting the consumer from fraudulent chemical producers. I was told by Jasmin that they do in fact test there pheromones for accuracy and quality. She went into a few details about how it was done, but I can’t remeber the exact process they used so I won’t speculate. They do test, and actualy called out a wholesaler on the quality of [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) when they tested to ensure the company was realiable to purchase from. That company buys chinese pheromones which androtics found out. Needless to say androtics chose a different suplier. This is why you can buy a wholesale pheromones for such cheap prices as compared to here. Meo Est is 80 bucks for a bottle. You can buy pure meo est and make more than several bottles for 40 bucks. The question is, are you getting real Meo Est? Does it have toxins or other chemicals mixed in that may effect it’s quality? Is it the same isotope that is effective? It costs androtics thousands of dolors just to test one pheromone for quality and accuracy. I trust them. ---
**Author:** ![m3turbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@m3turbo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/m3turbo)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 2:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-else-works/2602/8 "2007-03-21T02:35:34Z")
Perception Gel packs work great for starting converstions and producing a really friendly aura. Mix it with some none and it is a pretty powerful. It also comes in a time released gel so as soon as the nol in the product is converted to none more nol is released. It lasts about 9 hours per pack and 50 packs cost 35 bucks. They work great with A314 and can be tweaked to your likng with experimones. Really a valuable product!!! The only downside is you really have to scrub in the shower to get the gel off at the end of the day. ---
**Author:** ![jpballerina](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jpballerina/32/1004_2.png) [@jpballerina](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jpballerina)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 2:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-else-works/2602/9 "2007-03-21T02:47:20Z")
Oh, and scott? In reference to your Unbelieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevaaaaaaaaableeeeeeeeeee post a few weeks back? I don’t care how many pheromones you’re wearing: the only woman who is going to strip off her clothes by simply smelling you is a hooker. 😉 xoxo jp ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 2:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-else-works/2602/10 "2007-03-21T02:58:51Z")
> [@scott99](#): > > Look, I like this website and I don’t want to be banned, but whose to say that this or any other pheros website doesn’t use table salt and claims it’s androstenol crystals ? All the pheros sold here say that they contain Human Musk. Can You prove unequivicably that they actually do contain Human Musk ? Are all you experts chemists ? Who have broken down all the elements of the products you’ve bought from Androtics to prove they aren’t BS ? C’Mon, let’s not get all high and mighty just because you ONLY purchase products from this company. Who’s to say which company is the real deal and who are the con artists. i can honestly say that in the beginning i wouldnt have known a quality difference. no one can tell me nothing is in it, because im extrememly sensitive to everything,not just pheromones 😛 since i am not a chemist, i rely heavily on the users that i know have been users for years. i havent been using pheromones for very long (just over a year) but i have used them long enough to NOT CONTINUE PURCHASING something that doesnt work 😉 i have tried many companies, and no, im not impressed with love scent in the least. same ol’ stuff,different day. bought them,used them, the end. many people though have had wonderful experiences there i have been told. so if some of us appear _high and mighty_, its only because we have done _ **alot** _ more experimentation than you have (i mean, just going by your words) and its **NO COINCIDENCE** we have ALL come to the same conclusion. you might want to humor the idea that there might be something worth sharing here 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 5:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-else-works/2602/11 "2007-03-21T05:36:52Z")
Hey, Phar. I’d recommend Edge, just to try. It definitely works as a phero product. LaCroy is good and I totally advise people to go try them out to see what working pheromones feel like outside our company. Builds a pretty nifty context for what’s buzzing and what’s not. Downside is that it’s not dosed. It’s got some noney magic going on though, and some of the ovulating XX’s are into that. I’m also very much into Dr Dodd’s Xcite Wipes (Ladies only, I think, but why not try it as a guy? If you can swing the signature, you can do anything 😃). I haven’t tried Dodd’s PheroFragrance, but he’s a-ok in my book. _nods_ If you don’t want to buy your own bottle, why don’t you ask a few love-scenter’s for a sample swap? ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 5:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-else-works/2602/12 "2007-03-21T05:53:46Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > Hey, Phar. I’d recommend Edge, just to try. It definitely works as a phero product. LaCroy is good and I totally advise people to go try them out to see what working pheromones feel like outside our company. Builds a pretty nifty context for what’s buzzing and what’s not. > > Downside is that it’s not dosed. It’s got some noney magic going on though, and some of the ovulating XX’s are into that. > > I’m also very much into Dr Dodd’s Xcite Wipes (Ladies only, I think, but why not try it as a guy? If you can swing the signature, you can do anything 😃). I haven’t tried Dodd’s PheroFragrance, but he’s a-ok in my book. _nods_ > > If you don’t want to buy your own bottle, why don’t you ask a few love-scenter’s for a sample swap? Lacroy is good stuff…NPA and The Edge…havent tried IMPI though. I also like KZI, makers of W.A.G.G (what a great guy) ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 2:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-else-works/2602/13 "2007-03-21T14:00:40Z")
Lacroy has come out with new pheromones for gay and lesbians called man-to-man and woman-to-woman. Maybe someone here can give those a try as well. I am interested in their new pheromone wipe. It’s not sold on love-scent but through another website. But they keep tooting the VNO horn as well, saying one component of their product activates the olfactory mechanism while the other component (possibly the secret ingredient) activates the VNO mechanism. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 2:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-else-works/2602/14 "2007-03-21T14:23:09Z")
> [@nbully79](#): > > Lacroy has come out with new pheromones for gay and lesbians called man-to-man and woman-to-woman. Maybe someone here can give those a try as well. > > I am interested in their new pheromone wipe. It’s not sold on love-scent but through another website. > > But they keep tooting the VNO horn as well, saying one component of their product activates the olfactory mechanism while the other component (possibly the secret ingredient) activates the VNO mechanism. ooooh i would LOVE to know what their angle is there!!! how do we figure out whats in the gal to gal or guy to guy… im going to take a look-see on the internet. im an experimenter there… ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 8:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-else-works/2602/15 "2007-03-21T20:25:19Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > ooooh i would LOVE to know what their angle is there!!! > > how do we figure out whats in the gal to gal or guy to guy… > > im going to take a look-see on the internet. > > im an experimenter there… They don’t tell much of anything. Everything is a secret. Well atleast they make good products! ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 8:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-else-works/2602/16 "2007-03-21T20:27:32Z")
> [@sigma](#): > > Lacroy is good stuff…NPA and The Edge…havent tried IMPI though. I also like KZI, makers of W.A.G.G (what a great guy) Does KZI have their own website? ---
**Author:** ![Matthew1982ct](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/matthew1982ct/32/1157_2.png) [@Matthew1982ct](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matthew1982ct)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 9:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-else-works/2602/17 "2007-03-21T21:15:04Z")
_“I don’t care how many pheromones you’re wearing: the only woman who is going to strip off her clothes by simply smelling you is a hooker. 😉”_ When she smells your money, perhaps! 😃 The [Pheromone Product](https://a314.com/shop/) called “Da Benjamin” available from any bank! Matt ---
**Author:** ![scott99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@scott99](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scott99)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 1:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-else-works/2602/18 "2007-03-23T01:29:01Z")
> [@jpballerina](#): > > Oh, and scott? In reference to your Unbelieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevaaaaaaaaableeeeeeeeeee post a few weeks back? > > I don’t care how many pheromones you’re wearing: the only woman who is going to strip off her clothes by simply smelling you is a hooker. 😉 > > xoxo > jp Ballerina, if you read my follow up posts after the original “Unbbbeeeeelllliiieeevvvable” thread, you would have understood where I was coming from. P.S., I’ve had a woman strip off their clothes for me and all I was wearing was Farenheit cologne, and she wasn’t a hooker, or a stripper, 😉 but thats another story for another time. If you got to know me, you’d realize I’m a pretty decent guy. ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2007, 4:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-else-works/2602/19 "2007-03-23T04:32:56Z")
> [@nbully79](#): > > Does KZI have their own website? Not that I know of. Most of the mixes they release are actually pretty basic…with the exception of W.A.G.G. as far as we know (top secret phero contents). The quality of the mones they use is top-notch though. ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2007, 2:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-else-works/2602/20 "2007-03-24T02:17:06Z")
> [@nbully79](#): > > They don’t tell much of anything. Everything is a secret. Well atleast they make good products! Yea well I mean I can understand all the secrecy. Either there is secrecy or people will just copy their molecules and make money off their expensive research and development work. Only thing I don’t like about LaCroy is that they don’t sell their secret ingredients separately (as in away from Androstenone especially). How good would it be say to get the NPA secret ingredients to play with **separately** and to be able to combine them with other non-Androstenone products like IS, P79, [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/), IH, etc. Visionary [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-else-works/2602.md?page=2)