# What exactly is NPA? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 30, 2010, 7:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-exactly-is-npa/44276 "2010-12-30T19:15:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![LoveDocta](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lovedocta/32/993_2.png) [@LoveDocta](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LoveDocta)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 7:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-exactly-is-npa/44276/1 "2010-12-30T19:15:18Z")
hey guys what exactly is NPA i hear guys talking about it but i still dont know what it is ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 7:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-exactly-is-npa/44276/2 "2010-12-30T19:43:13Z")
> [@LoveDocta](#): > > hey guys what exactly is NPA i hear guys talking about it but i still dont know what it is Its a androstenone product that is I suppose you could say is related to Turn up the Heat from AD. So its purely a sexual product although NPA is quite a bit of a hit and miss working better on women of “Cougar” age normally. Its too potent to be warn directly by the dropper unless you are a older gentlemen yourself. Most people mix it in a 1:5 ration with cologne and spray it on themselves. Search is your friend although I think I provided enough basic info. ---
**Author:** ![LoveDocta](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lovedocta/32/993_2.png) [@LoveDocta](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LoveDocta)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 7:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-exactly-is-npa/44276/3 "2010-12-30T19:54:34Z")
yea i did some searching and learned about mix ratio’s and some other stuff i noticed you (and some post’s i read) mentioned that NPA works well on older females, so now my question is has anyone ever used it around girls in high school or around the age of 18-20 ? ---
**Author:** ![Tiger35](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@Tiger35](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tiger35)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 1:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-exactly-is-npa/44276/5 "2012-05-24T13:52:08Z")
So am I understanding your last statement correctly? Younger ladies don’t like androstenone? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-exactly-is-npa/44276/6 "2012-05-24T15:04:40Z")
> [@Tiger35](#): > > So am I understanding your last statement correctly? > Younger ladies don’t like androstenone? No. They like it well enough, its just that they like **much less** of it. A very strong/overt none signature is liable to repel them, whilst a much lighter sig moderated with socials will still be very attractive. Olfact Amourous spells it out excellently above. It goes the other way as they age, so if you are using NPA around younger women, keep the dilution low and get yourself something like alpha androstenol to to socialise it more. You should be fine. There is a decent NPA thread on the top of this forum just now and many other good threads here with all the info you need to use it effectively. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Tiger35](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@Tiger35](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tiger35)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 7:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-exactly-is-npa/44276/7 "2012-05-25T07:45:01Z")
Thanks Mobo. ---
**Author:** ![stuttgart-man](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/stuttgart-man/32/1615_2.png) [@stuttgart-man](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stuttgart-man)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 2:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-exactly-is-npa/44276/8 "2012-05-25T14:02:58Z")
> [@LoveDocta](#): > > hey guys what exactly is NPA i hear guys talking about it but i still dont know what it is When I use NPA only, I got (almost) only hits from older women, but if I mix NPA with A1, it attracts many young attractive women. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 4:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-exactly-is-npa/44276/9 "2012-05-25T16:54:48Z")
> [@stuttgart-man](#): > > When I use NPA only, I got (almost) only hits from older women, but if **I mix NPA with A1** , it attracts many young attractive women. 🙂 What’s your mixing ratio, Stutt; and do you make a mix, or are you talking about applying both separately? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![stuttgart-man](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/stuttgart-man/32/1615_2.png) [@stuttgart-man](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stuttgart-man)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2012, 6:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-exactly-is-npa/44276/10 "2012-05-26T18:53:42Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > What’s your mixing ratio, Stutt; and do you make a mix, or are you talking about applying both separately? > > Thanks! I mix 0.4 ml A1 with 0.6 ml NPA and 2.5 ml CoolWater in a Togo-bottle which provides 0.125 ml/spray. With one spray you get 14.28+x mcg A1 (\*), 5.14 mcg Androstenone from the NPA and the same amount of the secret ingredients with is in the NPA. Usually I apply 2 sprays on my clothes. Clothes therefore to prevent that the A1 converts to Nol and None. Hope I could help you 🙂 (\*) As the NPA contains A1 in an unknown amount as one of the “secret” ingredient, one spray provides a little bit more than the 14.28 mcg A1. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2012, 7:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-exactly-is-npa/44276/11 "2012-05-27T07:51:18Z")
> [@stuttgart-man](#): > > I mix 0.4 ml A1 with 0.6 ml NPA and 2.5 ml CoolWater in a Togo-bottle which provides 0.125 ml/spray. > > With one spray you get 14.28+x mcg A1 (\*), 5.14 mcg Androstenone from the NPA and the same amount of the secret ingredients with is in the NPA. > > Usually I apply 2 sprays on my clothes. Clothes therefore to prevent that the A1 converts to Nol and None. > > Hope I could help you 🙂 > > (\*) As the NPA contains A1 in an unknown amount as one of the “secret” ingredient, one spray provides a little bit more than the 14.28 mcg A1. You spray to your clothes ONLY? Do you find spraying to your clothes giving you consistent hits? What is your age range for your definition of YOUNG HITS? Thanks for the info! ---
**Author:** ![stuttgart-man](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/stuttgart-man/32/1615_2.png) [@stuttgart-man](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stuttgart-man)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2012, 8:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-exactly-is-npa/44276/12 "2012-05-27T08:27:14Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > You spray to your clothes ONLY? > > Do you find spraying to your clothes giving you consistent hits? > > What is your age range for your definition of YOUNG HITS? > > Thanks for the info! I use mones on clothes and skin, depending on the type of mones and depending on the occasion. When you use mones on clothes in the club and the girls become so much sexual aroused that they pull your clothes from your body, you are without mones 😉 I’m 37, so all women below 30 I define as young. But sometimes girls around 20 are attracted by me too 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2012, 8:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-exactly-is-npa/44276/13 "2012-05-27T08:30:36Z")
> [@stuttgart-man](#): > > I use mones on clothes and skin, **depending on the type of mones and depending on the occasion**. When you use mones in the club and the girls become so much sexual aroused that they pull your clothes from your body, you are without mones 😉 > > I’m 37, so all women below 30 I define as young. But sometimes girls around 20 are attracted by me too 🙂 I’m asking about the A1:NPA mix ONLY … Always on your clothing, or does that depend as well? Seems like it could be a good idea during the day, but for that closeness … date/car … the skin would be better. Thanks, again! ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2012, 9:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-exactly-is-npa/44276/14 "2012-05-27T09:00:29Z")
I have used both NPA and AE on clothing and clothing/skin. Apart from needing a much higher dose, it has also lost me a few good shirts - Either destroyed by having a woman rip them off me or because she wanted to keep them to “remember” me by! All-in, I’d say skin is better - for both diffusion and amount of pheros needed as well as being easier on the clothing budget! Besides, applying to the neck/throat area always does get a little on your clothing anyway. Note to self - I must mix a new batch of NPA (varying doses), and NPA/A1 togos - I’ve not been using the stuff for a while as I’ve been finishing-up some of my older pheros and all I have is quarter of a togo of my “model mix” from a while back and that’s maybe a bit strong for all but the most mature club which is not a place I’m going to just now because of my foot. ---
**Author:** ![stuttgart-man](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/stuttgart-man/32/1615_2.png) [@stuttgart-man](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stuttgart-man)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2012, 10:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-exactly-is-npa/44276/15 "2012-05-27T10:00:47Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > I’m asking about the A1:NPA mix ONLY … Always on your clothing, or does that depend as well? Seems like it could be a good idea during the day, but for that closeness … date/car … the skin would be better. > > Thanks, again! The NPA/A1/CoolWater-mix I have only applied it on clothes as yet. No idea how it would works on skin. ---
**Author:** ![stuttgart-man](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/stuttgart-man/32/1615_2.png) [@stuttgart-man](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stuttgart-man)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2012, 10:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-exactly-is-npa/44276/16 "2012-05-27T10:08:04Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > All-in, I’d say skin is better - for both diffusion and amount of pheros needed as well as being easier on the clothing budget! Mobocaster, do you get the same good hits when using mones several days in row on skin? With me, the hit-potential fades away when using mones (especially with none) many days in row. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2012, 10:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-exactly-is-npa/44276/17 "2012-05-27T10:14:18Z")
Yes, excellent, although I do reduce the dose from the second day onwards if I’ve not had a chance for a proper clean-up (bath/good shower) as the none stacks-up. ---
**Author:** ![PheroHobbyist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d26b3c/32.png) [@PheroHobbyist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroHobbyist)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 2:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-exactly-is-npa/44276/18 "2012-06-02T02:15:42Z")
If I apply on clothes, how much more should I use? Double? Better for spray or oil? Do they last longer on clothes? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 8:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-exactly-is-npa/44276/19 "2012-06-02T08:58:23Z")
> [@stuttgart-man](#): > > The NPA/A1/CoolWater-mix I have only applied it on clothes as yet. No idea how it would works on skin. I have been told quite a few times by a good variety of women that the scent of Cool Water on a sweaty man is one of the biggest turn-ons they know. For that reason alone, I wouldn’t think on using the stuff on clothing, except in a secondary/overlap capacity! 🙂 Pity that I have a mild reaction to Cool Water, similar to FF21 but a bit worse. I can only wear it for a couple of hours before I get skin irritation and a stumping headache, so I don’t use it often. Then again CW is also the “adult” Lynx/Axe in this part of the UK and I kind of prefer not to smell like every other guy in the place! 😉 That big bottle my ex gave me (Yup, she liked it too!) looks like it will last me a very long time! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 9:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-exactly-is-npa/44276/20 "2012-06-02T09:03:32Z")
> [@PheroHobbyist](#): > > If I apply on clothes, how much more should I use? Double? Better for spray or oil? Do they last longer on clothes? Much more - **At least** double your normal dose for sprays with none but when I was using alphanol, I could go up to six times normal dose to get similar results. Oils could be higher again - With AE, three or four times maximum dose on an 80/20 cotton/synthetic shirt. A younger guy could probably use less. All-in, I found applying to clothing an immense waste of product. ---
**Author:** ![cyto](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cyto/32/1774_2.png) [@cyto](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cyto)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 6:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-exactly-is-npa/44276/21 "2012-06-02T18:12:38Z")
> [@stuttgart-man](#): > > I mix 0.4 ml A1 with 0.6 ml NPA and 2.5 ml CoolWater in a Togo-bottle which provides 0.125 ml/spray. > > With one spray you get 14.28+x mcg A1 (\*), 5.14 mcg Androstenone from the NPA and the same amount of the secret ingredients with is in the NPA. > > Usually I apply 2 sprays on my clothes. Clothes therefore to prevent that the A1 converts to Nol and None. > > Hope I could help you 🙂 > > (\*) As the NPA contains A1 in an unknown amount as one of the “secret” ingredient, one spray provides a little bit more than the 14.28 mcg A1. How are you extracting the Cool Water (or any other cologne) from the bottle without breaking off the top? [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-exactly-is-npa/44276.md?page=2)