# What happened to eow? **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 14, 2008, 10:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happened-to-eow/22900 "2008-11-14T22:41:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 11:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happened-to-eow/22900/61 "2008-11-20T23:32:03Z")
Oh I see, lol ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 11:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happened-to-eow/22900/62 "2008-11-20T23:39:45Z")
> [@msselva](#): > > _ **Terms of Service? I’m just guessing lol** _ > [@Steve](#): > > _ **Terms of Steve TOS** _ OK…no beating…it was just gonna be a few love taps anyways…sheesh. Mkay, how 'bout we just gently **squeeeeeze** the love outta you? Or maybe smooch it out…hmm? Is that permitted within TOS? LOL ---
**Author:** ![Mademoiselle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Mademoiselle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mademoiselle)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 12:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happened-to-eow/22900/63 "2008-11-21T00:33:03Z")
I checked W-9 and was wondering, is it pure copulins like EoW? If yes, how come it is less effective than EoW? ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 1:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happened-to-eow/22900/64 "2008-11-21T01:03:59Z")
W-9 is billed as pure copulins. It may or may not be more effective. I haven’t tried it yet, so I don’t know how it compares to EoW. Mademoiselle 🙂, have you compared the two and found W-9 to be less effective than EoW? Even though billed as pure cops, I believe each copulin formula still varies in strength. So that means the dose you need will vary from product to product no matter who manufactures it. 😉 Bella ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 1:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happened-to-eow/22900/65 "2008-11-21T01:15:28Z")
Lam in chocolitini is really very good, Covers the scent of the cops great and the chocolate scent is not overpowering like with MX135. The cops seems to smooth it out some. You dont really have to cover it either. I didnt get it 20X though. I will next time. It smells sort of like hot chocolate. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 1:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happened-to-eow/22900/66 "2008-11-21T01:17:48Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > Hi Diane, > > The good news is, as you may have read elsewhere on the forum, we have a yet another perfumer on it. I like this guy. He’s kind and level headed, and makes some really amazing scents. I even have the sneaking suspicion that’s he’s heterosexual (rare in the world of male perfumers, Luca Turin exempted) and may know what _good_ copulins smell like. Important stuff. > > The EXTRA good news is that he might join the forum here, so he can develop it “live” on in response to feedback from all you guys, as we do with pheromone formulas. We couldn’t get that kind of involvement from most perfumers or even salad dressing designers if we tried. > > There’s possibly even EXTRA EXTRA good news, but I’ll leave that for later. > > Kindly, 🙂 > Jas That’s great, Jasmin! Thank you for taking the extra time to explain it to me. Just wanted to let you know that the bottle of EOW that I bought several months ago was pretty good. It smelled a little like vinegary butt cheese… but it dried down to musky, puppy-breath smell, kinda nice.. a very sexy smell. My husband absolutely loathes the wet smell of EOW, but he likes the dried down version. And it was very effective. From what I’ve been reading I won’t be buying EOW from Stone again, unless he gets his act together. I still have tons and tons of the bottle I bought… but, I’d much rather be buying straight cops from Androtics. And I do hope that Androtics can provide an effective copulin. I’ll keep my fingers crossed! 😛 Diane ---
**Author:** ![Mademoiselle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Mademoiselle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mademoiselle)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 1:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happened-to-eow/22900/67 "2008-11-21T01:59:29Z")
Yes, I second what Diane said, I’d love to buy pure cops from Androtics! > [@Bella](#): > > W-9 is billed as pure copulins. It may or may not be more effective. I haven’t tried it yet, so I don’t know how it compares to EoW. > > Mademoiselle 🙂, have you compared the two and found W-9 to be less effective than EoW? > > Even though billed as pure cops, I believe each copulin formula still varies in strength. So that means the dose you need will vary from product to product no matter who manufactures it. 😉 > > Bella Hi Bella, Nope, haven’t tried W-9, but I am very curious about it, and might give it a shot actually. I think Tisha mentioned somewhere that W-9 wasn’t as potent as the old EoW For her. My EoW bottle is quite mild, doesn’t smell bad at all, and dries down in like 1-2 mn top. I just got Essence Oil -the oil version of EoW- today and it smells a bit stronger but still very wearable, even with a very light cover scent. ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2008, 3:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happened-to-eow/22900/68 "2008-11-21T03:00:28Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > **Lam in chocolitini is really very good** > > _ **It smells sort of like hot chocolate.** _ Hmmmm…a little whipped cream…and Wolfie…might not be so bad. 😛 > [@Mademoiselle](#): > > _ **Yes, I second what Diane said, I’d love to buy pure cops from Androtics!** _ That might not be as far off as we think…if it has anything to do with what that stinker Steve **O** spilled earlier in this thread. Either that or he’s trying to throw us off the scent. 🆒 > [@](#): > > _ **Nope, haven’t tried W-9, but I am very curious about it, and might give it a shot actually. I think Tisha mentioned somewhere that W-9 wasn’t as potent as the old EoW For her. My EoW bottle is quite mild, doesn’t smell bad at all, and dries down in like 1-2 mn top.** _ So I wonder, by Tisha’s description, maybe the W-9 is somewhere between the old Eow and the new? Could be worth pursuing. I also have a thread around here, about the new Eow being less stinky, from four weeks ago but I ain’t gonna link it 'cause it went to crap…lol. Bella ---
**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 3:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happened-to-eow/22900/69 "2008-11-25T03:58:06Z")
I can dribble the new EOW on my skin, dash on a little perfume, and go right out. I’ve even done so right before jumping into a guy’s car. His reaction? “You always smell so good!” I’d like some lethal cops too. Like Bella said, I’m in danger of using up my bottle of EoW waaay too fast. But on the other hand, I have a bottle of Super Sexy into which I emptied almost a whole bottle of the older EoW. I wore just a little bit of it today, and people kept commenting, “Do you smell something?” “Someone’s making popcorn.” “I smell cigarettes.” But no one acted as if they thought I was the source of the smell. Cops is tricky. ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2008, 5:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happened-to-eow/22900/70 "2008-11-25T05:45:48Z")
Kitten!! 🙂 😃 Glad to see you! Yep, if I let them dry down well, they almost don’t need a cover. In fact I’m good to go over, or mixed into, a lightly scented body lotion. I said as much in my went to crap thread…lol…_aaand_…it drys down fast too. We need better alternatives to the reeking oil version and the latest batch of less stinky weak EoWTFdidthoseguysdotothis! I mean where’s the bang for the buck? 😛 At this rate I’ll need to start buying it in 5 gallon drums. Jasmin’s new perfumer is workin’ on it as we speak. That’s good news. 🙂 So tell me Kit, do you wish you hadn’t ditched that bottle of Industrial cops? 🙄 Bella ---
**Author:** ![Alystin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alystin/32/664_2.png) [@Alystin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Alystin)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 7:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happened-to-eow/22900/71 "2008-11-26T07:51:24Z")
I was just wondering, I’ve heard many girls talking about changing the cops in a product. for example > [@Butterfly](#): > > Now that IS/B is back, when do you reckon we can 5x cop that? And I was wondering how I’d be able to get this adjustment on future products from Androtics? I’ve tried looking all over their site to find out where I could do it, but all I find is where to change/customize the scent of the product. Any help! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2008, 9:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happened-to-eow/22900/72 "2008-11-26T09:51:03Z")
You wont see it till the copulins are back in stock but if you go to the main store page, on the left under the advanced column, you will see custom additions. Its in there under Womens scent changes. There is a drop down menu for the products you can customize. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Merienda](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/merienda/32/1381_2.png) [@Merienda](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Merienda)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 4:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happened-to-eow/22900/73 "2009-01-28T16:39:41Z")
So I ordered EoW despite everyone saying that it’s diluted. It didn’t smell like rotten grape juice to me. It smelled like…vinegar. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 4:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happened-to-eow/22900/74 "2009-01-28T16:42:13Z")
> [@Merienda](#): > > So I ordered EoW despite everyone saying that it’s diluted. > > It didn’t smell like rotten grape juice to me. It smelled like…vinegar. 😕 Rotten grape juice, vinegar, butt-cheese… It has many associations… Not that it matters though as long as it works 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Merienda](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/merienda/32/1381_2.png) [@Merienda](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Merienda)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 5:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happened-to-eow/22900/75 "2009-01-29T17:59:26Z")
Oh okay, I thought there was might’ve been something wrong with my nose. ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 7:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happened-to-eow/22900/76 "2009-01-29T19:00:26Z")
> [@Merienda](#): > > Oh okay, I thought there was might’ve been something wrong with my nose. Well, believe it or not one of the main fatty acids in copulins is acetic acid, that this the acid that gives vinegar its smell. Normally this is a smaller amount in proportion to all the other things that go into cops. I guess they got the ratios wrong again. Diane ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 12:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happened-to-eow/22900/77 "2009-01-30T00:19:45Z")
A friend just sent me a 15 ml bottle of cops and OMFG it stinks to high hell. I mean it smells so bad I almost died. I immediately zip locked it and still bad. Stuck it inside another two ziplock’s and still bad. Stuck that inside a cigar box and I needed to open the windows. Mind you its 24 degrees out. Now its in a cooler, outside in the shed and I think I might have to cal a haz mat team out. HORRIBLE! ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 12:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happened-to-eow/22900/78 "2009-01-30T00:31:37Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > … I immediately zip locked it and still bad. Stuck it inside another two ziplock’s and still bad. > > Stuck that inside a cigar box and I needed to open the windows. Mind you its 24 degrees out. Now its in a cooler, outside in the shed and I think I might have to cal a haz mat team out. HORRIBLE! Sounds like you got some of the original beta mix from years ago.😮 I remember those tests, never had the guts myself.🙄 ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 1:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happened-to-eow/22900/79 "2009-01-30T01:32:30Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > A friend just sent me a 15 ml bottle of cops and OMFG it stinks to high hell. I mean it smells so bad I almost died. I immediately zip locked it and still bad. Stuck it inside another two ziplock’s and still bad. > > Stuck that inside a cigar box and I needed to open the windows. Mind you its 24 degrees out. Now its in a cooler, outside in the shed and I think I might have to cal a haz mat team out. HORRIBLE! Uh, where are these from? I have some EoW oil that smells like fetid parmesan. ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 2:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happened-to-eow/22900/80 "2009-01-30T02:24:07Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > _ **A friend just sent me a 15 ml bottle of cops and OMFG it stinks to high hell. I mean it smells so bad I almost died.** _ > > _ **I think** _ _ **I might have to cal a haz mat team out.** _ _ **HORRIBLE!** _ 😮 A hazmat team?! They _must_ be good! OK, _ssssSteveO_… _I swear to God_…and all things _ **PINK AND SQUISHY** _…_if you’re really holding out on us_…I’ma send Uncle Vito after your sweet a\*\*… 😮 > [@ariadne](#): > > _ **Uh, where are these from?** _ _Now_, about the cops…_spill_. 🆒 Bella [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happened-to-eow/22900.md?page=3) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happened-to-eow/22900.md?page=5)