# What happens after you stop using them?? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 13, 2009, 3:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-after-you-stop-using-them/30648 "2009-07-13T03:52:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![allenk893](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@allenk893](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/allenk893)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 3:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-after-you-stop-using-them/30648/1 "2009-07-13T03:52:01Z")
I’m sorry. I had to delete my previous post because I realized that I was coming on a bit too strong and critical. So I deleted it so that I wouldn’t start any more arguments because that wasn’t my initial goal. But anyway, I wanted to know, what exactly happens after you stop using pheromones?? Are you a different person or is your status different? Do people still act the same around you or recognize those same feelings about you when you were using them? I’m so interested in knowing because even though I’m expressing interest in trying them, I don’t want them to up my status to someone I am not regularly. Like for instance. My personality is shy to say the least. But I’m not so shy that I can’t talk to anybody or tell anybody off if they piss me off. I’m just a shy guy naturally. If I were to use [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) for instance, and everybody at school is laughing and stuff and I’m a cool guy for the day, what happens the next day? Does everyone forget about it or does everyone expect me to be the same way?? Thanks. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![pheroman3000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/eb9ed0/32.png) [@pheroman3000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pheroman3000)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 4:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-after-you-stop-using-them/30648/2 "2009-07-13T04:00:58Z")
I think its up to how you act …people that dont use [pheromones](https://a314.com/) are some days funny and some days not funny…some girls are sometimes hot and sometimes you dont see them as hot…i always see people in a new light everyday and i dont think youll be any different.. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 5:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-after-you-stop-using-them/30648/3 "2009-07-13T05:07:47Z")
We all take cues, conciously or not 😃 No one will “expect” anything from you, but unlike high energy days you may not grab the attention so quickly the way you can with the pheros. I noticed when I stopped using, the people that dug me still did, but when i went back to using them, there was an extra gesture or comment. They add,but not subtract. Atleast that is my experience of using pheros. ---
**Author:** ![mahalo\_silver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8dc957/32.png) [@mahalo\_silver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mahalo_silver)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 6:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-after-you-stop-using-them/30648/4 "2009-07-13T06:01:32Z")
Look pheromones sometimes have a great effect, sometimes not. These days i find its subtle whether im wearing it or not. in other words, the changes made when wearing pheromones r not such a dramatic shift in paradigm that ull notice a “before and after”. the more people realise its limitations and that its not some miracle potion, the easier it’ll be to avoid dissapointment and over-analysis like “oh shit will i still be the same person if i stop wearing 'em?” - they just arent that powerful in effect that a question like that needs to be asked…they r tools in dating, just as affective as buying the Mystery Method book - its 1 little strategy to help out. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 8:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-after-you-stop-using-them/30648/5 "2009-07-13T08:55:33Z")
Hi Pheromones do not change a person or create something from nothing. There has to be some sort of attraction and compatability to begin with. Pheromones just influence people to act on those emotions. Read this \>\>\>\>\> > [@What pheromones can and can't do: realistic expectations for newcomers](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-do-and-what-they-cant-updated/9558): > > A lot of people come in to the forum and read all the wonderful stories about peoples experiences with [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/). New people end up trying them out with high expectations and usually as they get to know the product those expectations are met to some extent and sometimes not because there expectations were to high But I think its best for people to have a realistic view on what exactly they can and can not do. I get a lot of PM’s from people asking me why "they couldn’t get there cheati… They dont change how a person feels when you use them they just change how they express what they feel. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![ToBeOrNotToBe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eb9ed0/32.png) [@ToBeOrNotToBe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ToBeOrNotToBe)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 9:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-after-you-stop-using-them/30648/6 "2009-07-13T09:11:04Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Hi > > They dont change how a person feels when you use them they just change how they express what they feel. > > Tisha With all due respect, I don’t gree with that! 😉 It’s not just changing the way people express what they feel, it’s actually improving what people feel about us. Well, that’s the whole point of [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/), right? Whether it comes from placebo effect (by making us more confident and more aware of possible hits) or direct pheromone effects… It’s just 1 weapon in our arsenal. If I work out regularly in the gym, I will make myself more attractive to most women. Not all women, as everyone’s different and some women might ‘not’ prefer muscular guys, but most will (as long as we’re not “unnaturally muscular”). Now, getting muscular will not just change the way women express what they feel towards me. Well, actually it might do it but for the most part what matters is that I’m improving what they feel about me. Getting a muscular body, dressing with style, having success in our professional life or wearing pheromones… they will improve our status, not just the way people express what they feel. Well, that’s my opinion. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![bedojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bedojo/32/1027_2.png) [@bedojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bedojo)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 9:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-after-you-stop-using-them/30648/7 "2009-07-13T09:13:48Z")
I believe it is all relative, if you rely on the pheros to much, after stopping you will probably fail, i use the pheros to help me learn, and i do fine now with out them, to great with them 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 9:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-after-you-stop-using-them/30648/8 "2009-07-13T09:49:34Z")
> [@](#): > > It’s not just changing the way people express what they feel, it’s actually improving what people feel about us. Well, that’s the whole point of pheromone products, right? Whether it comes from placebo effect (by making us more confident and more aware of possible hits) or direct pheromone effects… Well actually we are saying the same thing. I just didn’t get into it as far into it in my post and left the link explaining it fully at the bottom. Saves from having to repeat myself over and over. 😉 To “improve” the way a person perceives you means that had to notice and perceive you to begin with. Mones will not create something from nothing. They just don’t work that way. If they did I would be dirty stinking rich. The point of mones is to enhance what is already there. You cant enhance something that doesn’t exist. In the case of the target person the emotion felt needs to exist already for mones to work. If a person hates you for instance they will still hate you using mones. They may be more pleasant but they wont change those feelings. If there is something of interest about you to someone mones will enhance that and increase the emotional response to that feeling or signal. They wont create the feeling though. Therefore, when you stop using them the feeling or emotion remains because it already existed and is now in the conscious mind. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![ToBeOrNotToBe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eb9ed0/32.png) [@ToBeOrNotToBe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ToBeOrNotToBe)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 8:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-after-you-stop-using-them/30648/9 "2009-07-13T20:08:32Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > If there is something of interest about you to someone mones will enhance that and increase the emotional response to that feeling or signal. They wont create the feeling though. Therefore, when you stop using them the feeling or emotion remains because it already existed and is now in the conscious mind. > > Tisha Don’t you think pheromones are capable of changing the way someone feels about us? I’m not saying that’s the rule, I am asking if you think that may be possible in certain circumstances. Let’s take the following example: there’s a girl with whom I’ve never spoken to and who has never spoken to me or even looked at me before. Someday I’m wearing NPA:APC mix 3:7 and suddenly she passes by and throws me one huge and totally unexpected smile from ear to ear and says “hiii” with a very mellow voice. That happened 4 years ago. I believe that’s an example of pheromones “changing the way she feels about me”, not just “changing the way she expresses what she feels about me”, because I had never had any kind of reaction from her before that day. I don’t think she was hiding anything (she was a an extrovert girl, so she wouldn’t have any trouble saying “hi”). That was just a mere example. But I understand what you are saying. If there’s no attraction whatsoever, pheromones won’t make her jump in my lap. But, in theory, they could help me create that attraction. ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 9:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-after-you-stop-using-them/30648/10 "2009-07-13T21:58:58Z")
Pheromones work on a very unconscious level, and we (as cognitively complex creatures) rely on cognitive/conscious stimuli to determine how we perceive someone. Your looks, your personality, and your actions resonate MUCH stronger with how people perceive you, because these are stimuli that we can cognitively understand. Pheromones tug at our feelings at a more primal, instinctual level…our human social filters dictate how we perceive and react to these sensations. As others have mentioned, pheromones won’t make someone attracted to you, if there is no cognitive basis for them to be attracted to you. If there is a basis for them to be attracted to you, it will take those sensations and push them to extremes. On the flip-side, if someone is already attracted to you, and they cognitively attribute their attraction to you looks, personality and most importantly their experiences with you, then the lack of pheromones won’t stop them from being attracted to you. Point in case, I’ve been married for over a year, and haven’t used pheromones around my wife for even longer than that. And the attraction between the two of us still exists, If anything, we’ve grown more attracted to each other over time and that sense of attraction has nothing to do with pheromones. If you’re looking for a life-changing experience, work on yourself too…and not just by going to the gym. Work on your self-esteem, your social skills and your social awareness…work on your body language and your communication skills. The good thing about pheromones is that they give us an edge throughout this constant learning process, and the process of wearing pheromones and observing the behaviors and perceptions of others teaches us a lot how to have a meaningful impact on people in all sorts of social contexts. ---
**Author:** ![ToBeOrNotToBe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eb9ed0/32.png) [@ToBeOrNotToBe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ToBeOrNotToBe)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 11:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-after-you-stop-using-them/30648/11 "2009-07-13T23:04:42Z")
> [@sigma](#): > > and the process of wearing pheromones and observing the behaviors and perceptions of others teaches us a lot how to have a meaningful impact on people in all sorts of social contexts. And there you have your placebo effect. ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2009, 12:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-after-you-stop-using-them/30648/12 "2009-07-14T00:03:18Z")
> [@ToBeOrNotToBe](#): > > And there you have your placebo effect. Not necessarily. Having not used them in over a year, I can tell you the effects of pheromones are very real, and they can have a very profound effect on people when used in conjunction with the right social behaviors. Pheromones seem accentuate the impact you have on people, and you can really see how effective they are once you stop using them. The point I was merely trying to make, was that in the 4 years I spent tinkering with pheromones, I learned a lot about attraction, human social behavior, body language etc etc etc through the process of experimenting. The more I learned, and the more I learned to match pheromones to my personality, the more impactful the pheromones became. Having not used them for quite a while, things seem much more ‘normal’ these days, but the social skills acquired over those years have stuck.