# What happens when you mix Ammo + Instant Shine + Instant Openness? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 5, 2010, 7:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-when-you-mix-ammo-instant-shine-instant-openness/43112 "2010-11-05T19:33:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Noble](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/noble/32/1768_2.png) [@Noble](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Noble)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 7:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-when-you-mix-ammo-instant-shine-instant-openness/43112/1 "2010-11-05T19:33:11Z")
I’ll be using this in a high school environment. What happens? ---
**Author:** ![empath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/empath/32/2351_2.png) [@empath](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/empath)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 7:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-when-you-mix-ammo-instant-shine-instant-openness/43112/2 "2010-11-05T19:48:09Z")
> [@Noble](#): > > I’ll be using this in a high school environment. What happens? … you tell us my friend, can be different for everyone. Don’t use too much ammo as you’re young and create a lot of none already. IO makes people more comfortable around you and IS makes people generally feel good. Gives off a fun youthful vibe. Let us know how things go ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-when-you-mix-ammo-instant-shine-instant-openness/43112/3 "2010-11-05T19:49:05Z")
2x ammo + 3x IS + 3x IO; there yo go ! ---
**Author:** ![IncredulousPUA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/4af34b/32.png) [@IncredulousPUA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/IncredulousPUA)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-when-you-mix-ammo-instant-shine-instant-openness/43112/4 "2010-11-05T19:49:30Z")
After you try it out, let everyone else know what happens. Take the risk guy and make it happen for yourself. I would say this is the most talked about, used phero mix here on PT. use the search button and you’d see that ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-when-you-mix-ammo-instant-shine-instant-openness/43112/5 "2010-11-05T19:49:58Z")
[Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) + IS + IH = blonde magnet. Try that one! ---
**Author:** ![Gotchaz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@Gotchaz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gotchaz)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 8:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-when-you-mix-ammo-instant-shine-instant-openness/43112/6 "2010-11-05T20:53:20Z")
I like the 2x ammo 2x IO and 1x IS. I only do it tho on days I’m feeling good because even tho you may get to chat to some pretty ladies..be prepared for those that just keep talking and talking and talking hahaaa. It certainly brings some walls down for some people. It’s the IO that does it. I think. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 10:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-when-you-mix-ammo-instant-shine-instant-openness/43112/7 "2010-11-05T22:14:19Z")
Have you tried out each on its own to find your dosage and what they do for you or is this a baptism of sorts ? Its a good combo. I hope you mean layer and not mix though. I think it will give you a sexy cool charismatic fun vibe. Give it a go and report back 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Gotchaz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@Gotchaz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gotchaz)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 10:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-when-you-mix-ammo-instant-shine-instant-openness/43112/8 "2010-11-05T22:26:05Z")
I don’t physically mix them, I spray in different areas. I think I would make a mess if I mucked about with a mix. Although I wonder if you mixed 1 part IS with 2 parts IO and 2 parts AMMO would work. ---
**Author:** ![Noble](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/noble/32/1768_2.png) [@Noble](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Noble)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 10:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-when-you-mix-ammo-instant-shine-instant-openness/43112/9 "2010-11-05T22:27:18Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Have you tried out each on its own to find your dosage and what they do for you or is this a baptism of sorts ? It’s a baptism. I’m new to this, and I’ve got these three things in the mail right now. I was thinking… Ammo to the wrists (then rub behind ears and down the neck) Instant Shine to the chest [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) to the wrists Any amendments that would make it better? ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 10:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-when-you-mix-ammo-instant-shine-instant-openness/43112/10 "2010-11-05T22:35:32Z")
> [@Noble](#): > > It’s a baptism. I’m new to this, and I’ve got these three things in the mail right now. I was thinking… > > Ammo to the wrists (then rub behind ears and down the neck) > Instant Shine to the chest > Instant Openness to the wrists > > Any amendments that would make it better? Yep, once you get through with your baptism do the sweet spot testing…you’ll be so happy you did. Why? Because you’re gonna go out and miss some of the subtle cues that you’ll get that we call “hits.” Sometimes they are blatant and in your face, others their just the smallest of detail, like that person stood a bit closer to you with open body language. Also, when you do sweet spot testing you’ll see how each one works, and what you can expect from it…then when you start to layer together other mixes you’ll know what mone caused what. I haven’t been doing this forever, but I’ve done tons of testing, solo and mixes, and I’m pretty confident that I could wear any consumer product and toss in a putative and know what differences there were…but I still put those putatives through the ringer with sweet spot testing so I can see those subtle ones that I would have missed otherwise. Also the sweet spot testing will help you save money over the long haul, cause you may only need 1 or 2 sprays of something and you’ll be tossing on 3 and 4 or more and not seeing optimal results…and we don’t want that because then you might lose out on a very fun and interesting hobby. Good luck, report back on your baptisms…just know we ALL did it…LOL so no judging here. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 10:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-when-you-mix-ammo-instant-shine-instant-openness/43112/11 "2010-11-05T22:38:47Z")
Since your in high school start with 1 spray of AMMO. Your young and you most likely make a lot of the male [pheromones](https://a314.com/) already. 2 to 3 sprays of Ishine and IO each is fine as well. Those you wont get the ghost effect with if you use to much. Your application points are fine except I would wear IO on the neck not the wrists. Once you have your traditional baptism which we all pretty much did go back and work with one at a time to get to know each one and what it can do for you. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Noble](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/noble/32/1768_2.png) [@Noble](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Noble)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 10:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-when-you-mix-ammo-instant-shine-instant-openness/43112/12 "2010-11-05T22:39:15Z")
> [@thegentleman](#): > > Good luck, report back on your baptisms…just know we ALL did it…LOL so no judging here. uh oh. My method’s not gonna go bad, is it? Just seems a bit cryptic reading that. ---
**Author:** ![Gotchaz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@Gotchaz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gotchaz)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 11:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-when-you-mix-ammo-instant-shine-instant-openness/43112/13 "2010-11-05T23:07:06Z")
Nah you’ll be just fine, listen to Tisha she is a girl after all mate 😉 IO and IS you won’t OD on the smell and scare people off. With AMMO it can be too much so just start with one spray and see how it goes. ---
**Author:** ![Noble](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/noble/32/1768_2.png) [@Noble](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Noble)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 3:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-when-you-mix-ammo-instant-shine-instant-openness/43112/14 "2010-11-07T03:44:35Z")
Alright, I think I’ve got it. Just one question before Monday 😉 I read that -NONE scares off younger girls. So, is it safe or unsafe for me to wear ONE spray of Ammo around someone I like who’s 16-17? Note that this girl’s “important”, so obviously I don’t wanna screw up. ---
**Author:** ![Gotchaz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@Gotchaz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gotchaz)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 4:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-when-you-mix-ammo-instant-shine-instant-openness/43112/15 "2010-11-07T04:28:40Z")
lol you’re funny, k here’s the scoop…if you already met her then she has made up her mind about you already. If you wear AMMO and she doesn’t like it, don’t wear it next time. This stuff works great for strangers. As far as girls you already know…it’s hard if not impossible to get out of the friend zone if you’re in it. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 4:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-when-you-mix-ammo-instant-shine-instant-openness/43112/16 "2010-11-07T04:39:20Z")
> [@Noble](#): > > Alright, I think I’ve got it. Just one question before Monday 😉 > > I read that -NONE scares off younger girls. So, is it safe or unsafe for me to wear ONE spray of Ammo around someone I like who’s 16-17? > Note that this girl’s “important”, so obviously I don’t wanna screw up. If you ‘overthink’ it, the AMMO could be bad for you! You want to be relaxed and not worried about… will the AMMO scare her away? Will it make things uncomfortable? How will she react to the AMMO? Then, you lose site of your attitude toward her… Noble, man, have you tried the AMMO in OTHER situations? Maybe you should, so you ‘see’ for yourself what it does to you and the people around you in a less important situation for you. Just go crazy then, not with her… Or you can try out JUST a few sprays of the socials, IO and IS around her. Re-apply as many times as you want… see what happens then!!! Though, honestly, AMMO x 1 spray is very unlikely going to Ghost you with her… ESPECIALLY since you’ll compensate by layering IO and IS… ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 8:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-when-you-mix-ammo-instant-shine-instant-openness/43112/17 "2010-11-07T08:20:15Z")
> [@Noble](#): > > Alright, I think I’ve got it. Just one question before Monday 😉 > > I read that -NONE scares off younger girls. So, is it safe or unsafe for me to wear ONE spray of Ammo around someone I like who’s 16-17? > Note that this girl’s “important”, so obviously I don’t wanna screw up. Anone can scare off young girls if not buffered correctly. If you use what I suggested you will be well buffered. Ammo has anone buts its well balanced and buffered on its own. You will be wearing other socials to buffer it even more so you should be fine. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Noble](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/noble/32/1768_2.png) [@Noble](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Noble)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 2:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-when-you-mix-ammo-instant-shine-instant-openness/43112/18 "2010-11-09T02:32:15Z")
Hey! got my stuff! 🙂 Here’s what I did today: 1 spray of IS 2X 1 spray of IO 2X 1 spray of Ammo regular strength Didn’t get to use it at school unfortunately, but I did around others afterward. The IS seemed to work good, it put everyone in a good mood. IO was subtler, didn’t notice much of a difference. And Ammo didn’t cause much of a stir either. How about upping the ante a bit tomorrow? 2 sprays IS 2X 2 sprays IO 2X 2 sprays Ammo regular Too much, you guys, or will it be fine? I’ve also been given a free ToGo of TUTH, but I’m thinking that one might be too intense. But if you’ve got any ideas… well, you’re the experts. ---
**Author:** ![Noble](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/noble/32/1768_2.png) [@Noble](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Noble)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 11:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-when-you-mix-ammo-instant-shine-instant-openness/43112/19 "2010-11-09T23:08:58Z")
Ok, first school day experiment went pretty good! Since you guys asked, here’s what happened. Applied 1X ammo to back of left wrist, 2X IS to left side of neck, and 2X IO to right side of neck. First class was pretty normal, except a slight confidence boost and it seemed I could push the boundaries a bit more with the teach. Might be worth looking into A314 in the future. Second class was the same. No IOIs really, though. Third class, had a great hour-long Convo with about 7 people. One girl showed a lot of interest (feet angled, playing with hair, holding eye contact, but the biggest giveaway was she could NOT stop laughing at a joke I’d made that honestly wasn’t even good). No kino, though, but I’ve heard it might be because the attraction to these people is new; other teens seem to get better results AFTER day one, so we’ll see. Now it was lunch time. I snuck away for a minute to reapply IS and IO, then I did what another teen said he did in his journal on this site: I added one spray of TUTH between my shirt collar and my neck, where the sternum meets it. Headed in, and sat down with a group of girls at a table. Interactions went as normal, which I wasn’t really happy about. Toward the end, one girl said she had stomach pains (DID I CAUSE THIS? PLEASE ANSWER). No real IOIs that I couldn’t make on my own. Also, apparently mones affect teachers as well. One if then couldn’t take her eyes off me the whole time. It was probably the TUTH that did it, I’m guessing. I believe I’ll leave that out tomorrow. It was WEIRD. Well, consider me a believer. I noticed a bit of change, and tomorrow i’m gonna use more IS and IO, with Ammo, and no TUTH! If my phero-using peers are anything to go by, tomorrow looks extremely promising! ---
**Author:** ![Gotchaz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@Gotchaz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gotchaz)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 11:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-when-you-mix-ammo-instant-shine-instant-openness/43112/20 "2010-11-09T23:53:23Z")
Are you sure the teacher wasn’t staring BACk at you? lol I find doing these tests sometimes I find I am looking for clues and hits not realizing I am having an affect on them just by looking at them for signals hahaa. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happens-when-you-mix-ammo-instant-shine-instant-openness/43112.md?page=2)