# what if everyone in a group wore mones? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 1, 2011, 8:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-if-everyone-in-a-group-wore-mones/50132 "2011-05-01T20:47:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![menger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@menger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/menger)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 8:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-if-everyone-in-a-group-wore-mones/50132/1 "2011-05-01T20:47:35Z")
Hi guys, this question just popped into my head because i was out with a few friends and we decided we all wanted to wear the same thing lol. If everyone sprayed on a bit of mones, would we collectively as a result incur an OD and get ghosted? Would a better strategy simply be each person putting on a separate molecule? Any thoughts, opinions or sharing of experiences on this matter is appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 8:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-if-everyone-in-a-group-wore-mones/50132/2 "2011-05-01T20:55:00Z")
My first thought would be - Why do you want to lose your advantage? šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![menger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@menger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/menger)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 9:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-if-everyone-in-a-group-wore-mones/50132/3 "2011-05-01T21:01:07Z")
Yeah ā€¦ but itā€™s too late to worry about that lol at least for me šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 9:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-if-everyone-in-a-group-wore-mones/50132/4 "2011-05-01T21:02:31Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > My first thought would be - Why do you want to lose your advantage? > > šŸ˜‰ I agree. Think of the dynamics, who out maneuvers whom and the resulting disarray. Thatā€™s not gonna be pretty. šŸ˜• ---
**Author:** ![menger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@menger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/menger)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 9:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-if-everyone-in-a-group-wore-mones/50132/5 "2011-05-01T21:07:01Z")
> [@Astrea](#): > > I agree. Think of the dynamics, who out maneuvers whom and the resulting disarray. Thatā€™s not gonna be pretty. šŸ˜• Oh no, we have a very nice ā€œhive mentalityā€ which has worked really well for us so far šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![mariocisneros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d2c977/32.png) [@mariocisneros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mariocisneros)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 9:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-if-everyone-in-a-group-wore-mones/50132/6 "2011-05-01T21:11:00Z")
Craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap! lol j/kā€¦ I dunno, my friend and I wear the same mix when we go out, and we both get girls, so itā€™s not a big deal as long as he doesnā€™t mess up with my girls! haha So I would say that as long as u make an agreement about who is with who, no biggie šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 9:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-if-everyone-in-a-group-wore-mones/50132/7 "2011-05-01T21:11:27Z")
I would say the most congruent would win outā€¦then after that looks etc. ---
**Author:** ![menger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@menger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/menger)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 9:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-if-everyone-in-a-group-wore-mones/50132/8 "2011-05-01T21:25:20Z")
Very true on the above points. Any issues with OD and ghosting though? I kinda expect the mones to stack and cause it. While using different products would probably help, assuming that the above mentioned is true, but what if someone takes IJ, another with TUTH, and the next chap AMMO? If anyone has tried that formula for a group, please share your experience šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 9:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-if-everyone-in-a-group-wore-mones/50132/9 "2011-05-01T21:27:25Z")
> [@mariocisneros](#): > > Craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap! lol j/kā€¦ I dunno, my friend and I wear the same mix when we go out, and we both get girls, so itā€™s not a big deal as long as he doesnā€™t mess up with my girls! haha > So I would say that as long as u make an agreement about who is with who, no biggie šŸ˜‰ Thatā€™s just the two of you tho and you have agreed a plan pf action. Different situation in a crowd unless you have a lot of history together and mutual trust/respect. Mind you, pulling in groups is not something Iā€™ve done in years & frnkly, the quality of women involved was IME generally pretty poor. Depends what you want of course? Also, who supplies the pheros, the OP? Thats going to get expensive pretty quick and only recently, someone commented on snother thread about what can happen when somebody lets phero use out of the bag. There are only a couple of very close friends Iā€™d even consider confiding in TBH. ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 9:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-if-everyone-in-a-group-wore-mones/50132/10 "2011-05-01T21:33:56Z")
> [@mariocisneros](#): > > Craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap! lol j/kā€¦ I dunno, my friend and I wear the same mix when we go out, and we both get girls, so itā€™s not a big deal as long as he doesnā€™t mess up with my girls! haha > So I would say that as long as u make an agreement about who is with who, no biggie šŸ˜‰ šŸ™„Who gets who? Really? šŸ™„ Just make sure you tell the girls they donā€™t get a choice. šŸ™„ ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 6:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-if-everyone-in-a-group-wore-mones/50132/11 "2011-05-02T06:06:36Z")
You use [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) to give yourself a edge on the competition. If you all wear them you just equaled out the playing field. So your back to square one so to speak. Now suppose you all wear the same high anone formula. You still each have your own natural signature, personality and pick up style so the guy who usually gets the girl in the group will still get the girl. One thing to watch though is if your all wearing high anone and hanging out together its more likely to make people nervous and other groups of men aggressive and more competitive. It can push it more toward a ā€œgangā€ mentality as opposed to a bunch of guys hanging out. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 6:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-if-everyone-in-a-group-wore-mones/50132/12 "2011-05-02T06:25:12Z")
Iā€™ve actually wondered something similar. More along the lines of using various mixes to create a hierarchy of alpha status from one member of the group on down the line. Everyone as a group getting an edge over the other males in the venue and being seen as an ā€œitā€ group of high status VIP level guys, but with a clearly defined totem pole of dominance. sorta like a guy wearing 3 drops of A314 going out with a wingman wearing 2 sprays of IG. Both having a high status ā€œalphaā€ vibe but one being clearly more alpha than the other. Understanding that congruence and behavior are essential Iā€™ve toyed around with ideaā€™s utilizing the consumer line for a ā€œwolf packā€ sort of structure. While there is a definite alpha, there is also a beta (not a bad position honestly as he is sorta like the second in command) on down to the bottom position sometimes called the omega or scapegoat. ---
**Author:** ![menger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@menger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/menger)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 10:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-if-everyone-in-a-group-wore-mones/50132/13 "2011-05-02T10:29:27Z")
Radman has pretty much described what i was hoping to achieve. Ideally the mones would at least create a more conducive environment for us to operate in. I guess iā€™ll tinker around more with this aspect and report if i manage to work it out ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Gslinger](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnny_gslinger/32/748_2.png) [@Johnny\_Gslinger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Johnny_Gslinger)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 11:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-if-everyone-in-a-group-wore-mones/50132/14 "2011-05-02T11:35:56Z")
How many guys have you got in your group and what are the age ranges? ---
**Author:** ![menger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@menger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/menger)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 12:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-if-everyone-in-a-group-wore-mones/50132/15 "2011-05-02T12:27:20Z")
most of the time its just 3 of us. weā€™re all 26 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Gslinger](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnny_gslinger/32/748_2.png) [@Johnny\_Gslinger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Johnny_Gslinger)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 1:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-if-everyone-in-a-group-wore-mones/50132/16 "2011-05-02T13:26:38Z")
> [@menger](#): > > most of the time its just 3 of us. weā€™re all 26 Why do I have this feeling that youā€™re located in the same timezone as me. Haha. Shouldnā€™t be a problem. I guess if you guys keep it to a small group and its not like 6 or more guys, you guys wonā€™t be a walking haze of pheros. Iā€™d say follow what RAD says and wear different pheros. One could be the alpha dog with A314, another could be the chill and cool gentleman with the IG and another could be the charismatic and youthful one with IS and IO or one could be the badboy with IJ. Itā€™d be interesting then to see the response of the different ladies towards the respective guys. One of my good friends is trying out a couple of my mones before heā€™s deciding to buy into this whole idea. Weā€™ve gone out twice, on the first outing he used IG, [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and IO, I used A314, IS and Ammo. He managed to get more hits than me, more conversation and attention from the girls, I had more conversations with the guys Ok follow me on the second outing, I could just summarise it but I find it pretty funny Subsequently on our 2nd round, we had a 3rd guy with us and it was a barbecue at a park by the beach. 3rd guy has completely no clue as to what weā€™re doing. No idea about mones. I carry a small TUTH togo with me wherever I go in my bag just in case I have a situation where things are looking hot and I want to up the ante (I ziplock it just in case it leaks). So anyway I decide out of fun to tell 3rd guy ā€œHey, I have this new cologne, I got a tester. I think it smells really good. Can I test it out on you, and see how it goes on you?ā€ And heā€™s like ā€œWtf, why canā€™t you test it out on yourself. What if I donā€™t like the smellā€. I tell him I already have cologne on. He asks what brand and name, I say its a tester without an official label that the company I order my cologne from is trying out and giving samples. He doesnā€™t question me. 2nd guy knows what Iā€™m doing and goads him too. Iā€™m going "Chillax man, Iā€™ll give you two sprays on the back of your neck (ok to be honest I was going to try giving him 5 shots if he didnā€™t hesistate just to see what an OD might look like on someone else. Haha, a little mean but then I honestly thought itā€™d be funny) He relents, I spray it twice on him Iā€™m wearing IG + IJ + IS + IH (I get jack for that night. Wind is too damn strong, I try to stand where the wind is blowing towards but to no avail) people are behaving normal 2nd guy is wearing IS + IO, heā€™s also not getting any noticeable hits apart from the fact that heā€™s in a group and managed to open a good set/conversation with a couple of girls and guys, engaging them in conversation (heā€™s however more of a smooth talker and the charmer anyway, even without mones) 3rd guy with 2 sprays of TUTH is just doing his thing, playing with his new handphone that he just got, not really joining in on the fun. I didnā€™t drive that night and 3rd guy is driving. Heā€™s my ride home. Iā€™m riding with him with 2 girls in the back seat. I rib him twice and each time the girls get defensive over him, and Iā€™m like ā€œIā€™m just KIDDINGā€. So I just stop for the rest of the journey. I really didnā€™t know what to think of that night. * * * Morale of the story - Just do it, if it works it works. If it tanks donā€™t do it. You could probably start a whole seperate journal of how mones work in a group, and if youā€™re living in where I think youā€™re living, youā€™re probably much better off using mones in air-conditioned and enclosed spaces with your buds. ps. Do you live in a high humidity and warm weathered place? ---
**Author:** ![Oasis314](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/oasis314/32/219_2.png) [@Oasis314](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Oasis314)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-if-everyone-in-a-group-wore-mones/50132/17 "2011-05-02T14:03:46Z")
This is why I love this community. Asking questions which requires people to think about the usage of mones and how to effectively use them. Itā€™s a simple question, but the answer has been explained in the above replies. The person with the best congruency fitted with the correct state of mind, mones, body language, personality and correct mones used, will create a perfect puzzle. In a group situation, the person with the best painting is the one which will shine the most. This takes a lot of self experimentation and time to piece the puzzle together to create a very finished product. Mones are to social dynamics and social interactions as supplements are to bodybuilding and fitness. You can utilize them for 80% of the reasons you achieve the goal but pay in the price of heavy research and cost in order to get towards that level. Likewise, you can count on 80% of your social dynamic skills and finish off the missing piece of the puzzle with 20% of using mones to boost your lacking qualities in your social dynamic skills. ---
**Author:** ![menger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@menger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/menger)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 7:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-if-everyone-in-a-group-wore-mones/50132/18 "2011-05-03T07:00:55Z")
Yes I do live on a hot humid (island) Johnny. Time zone is gmt +8 lol. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Gslinger](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnny_gslinger/32/748_2.png) [@Johnny\_Gslinger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Johnny_Gslinger)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 10:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-if-everyone-in-a-group-wore-mones/50132/19 "2011-05-03T10:59:52Z")
> [@menger](#): > > Yes I do live on a hot humid (island) Johnny. Time zone is gmt +8 lol. Yeah I figured. Just keep in mind, from what Iā€™ve experienced, mones work not very well at parks by the beach, at certain popular kite flying spots. Sit really close to your targets and make sure you know the windā€™s direction and be prepared to refresh 3-5 hours depending on what mones you use, sometimes even 1-2 hours in between for IS depending also on what strength you use. Have you tried your mones in the clubs yet? ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 1:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-if-everyone-in-a-group-wore-mones/50132/20 "2011-05-03T13:14:08Z")
A problem with this wingman strategy is that if your all hanging out in close vicinity the mones will pile up and the outcome will be greater than each of the parts in isolation. Unless you split up with different women. But if your all sitting at the same dinner table I agree with Tish youā€™ve got a hunting pack mentality going on. The none from each of the guys will accumulate and the total none will be threatening. Wear different formulas, and split up with different women and see what happens. Also if youā€™ve got a wimp wearing SOE, and a stud wearing Ammo, Tuth, Or IJ extremeties in perception may really come out, kinda like a 6ā€™4" footer hanging out with 5ā€™ foot friends. It makes for humuliation of the weaker and greatness of the stronger. dsouza [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-if-everyone-in-a-group-wore-mones/50132.md?page=2)