# What is ghosting and ODing and how do you deal with it? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 22, 2011, 7:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-ghosting-and-oding-and-how-do-you-deal-with-it/48968 "2011-02-22T07:29:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![canadiank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@canadiank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/canadiank)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 7:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-ghosting-and-oding-and-how-do-you-deal-with-it/48968/1 "2011-02-22T07:29:50Z")
(cliffs notes at the bottom) Hey guys. I’ve been having a pretty good time with low doses of single pheros thus far. For the last two weeks or so, I’ve been using one, or maybe two, drops of A314 on it’s own. Saturday night I wanted to step it up a notch, to see what effects I could get. I put on maybe 2 drops of A314 on my jaw, and a single spray of TUTH. I had applied one drop of A314 earlier in the day, hours earlier, but had showered just before applying the other two. Anyways, I put the stuff on and hop in my car to meet some friends. On the way there, I feel different. I couldn’t describe it better than saying that I didn’t give a damn, just indifferent to the night. When I got there, everyone mentioned that I was giving off a weird vibe, and for the first few hours it was difficult to engage anyone in conversation. That’s pretty rare for me. I’m the kind of person who can have a conversation with someone who barely speaks English. After five or so hours, things were more normal. My friends thought I was “awkward,” but random people at the bar were chatting here and there. CLIFFS NOTES: - 2 drops A314, 1 spray TUTH, a night of an intense, quiet mood, followed by a feeling of awkard distance from friends but openness from strangers. Phero’s overdose? Ghosting? Or just an expected variance in mood unrelated to pheromoes? ---
**Author:** ![CBusinesstime](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cbusinesstime/32/1746_2.png) [@CBusinesstime](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CBusinesstime)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 10:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-ghosting-and-oding-and-how-do-you-deal-with-it/48968/2 "2011-02-22T10:26:13Z")
> [@canadiank](#): > > After five or so hours, things were more normal. My friends thought I was “awkward,” but random people at the bar were chatting here and there. > > CLIFFS NOTES: > > - 2 drops A314, 1 spray TUTH, a night of an intense, quiet mood, followed by a feeling of awkard distance from friends but openness from strangers. Phero’s overdose? Ghosting? Or just an expected variance in mood unrelated to pheromoes? Not too sure. From the way you described it, it seemed as if it’s just a reaction among friends on that matter. On a side note, by reading other posts some people react to the Alpha mones differently. I’m guessing you normally don’t give an overwhelming alpha vibe to your friends. Where they intimidated? Or, maybe you just give off that alpha male vibe already. The A314 applied may have conflicted with your natural signature that your friends are familiar with, and in turn, confusing the shit out of them. haha.. Not too sure. Mones are quite confusing. You may also be secreting some of the mones naturally. Through some research I found that males who worked out more frequently than others had more testosterone levels, in turn secreting more hormones which may be in the content of A314. Or again, you might just have more testosterone/secreting this naturally..Is this you? If you had better results with 1 drop, it may be that 1 drop would suit your signature better. I got a few undesirable reactions with IJ with only 2s which was about 30mcg. The fact that it conflicted with my natural signature kind of messed things up in a way. Males who I came in contact with gave me nasty looks (as if I was an actual Jerk because of the overbearing -none), but with the women and friends, I was fine. Quite opposite from your experience. It made me quite irritated when I did get these reactions (never got to a point when ghosted). However, this effect on others only lasted for about an hour or so, because of the rate of diffusion (I guess it depends how fast it diffuses to lessen the dose/reaction) . Considering that you used oil, diffusion would be slower and effects would last longer than sprays as you said it lasted for a few hours. From what I’ve read A314 does have none, but more of rone along w/ 7 others . TUTH is also made up of a small dose of none as well. I just recently started to pay attention to effects of each molecule in my sprays..heh 🙂, it’s really helpful to know the dose to find a sweet spot or avoid ODing. “Almost always need to use **-none** with a buffer to avoid women being too intimidated/stand off-ish, as well as increased aggression in other males. The younger you are, the less of this you need.” - pheromojo (info obtained from the link below) [Research Oriented Pheromones Description + Product Value / Ingredient Guide](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/research-oriented-pheromones-description-product-value-ingredient-guide/42557) ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 10:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-ghosting-and-oding-and-how-do-you-deal-with-it/48968/3 "2011-02-22T10:44:02Z")
Nope that was not ghosting or Oding. It is caused by the mones though. If you just go on acting as you always do with your friends then it will pass and they will just start reacting to the vibe. Your friends know you, they know your signature. Your giving off a new signature and they are looking for something that has changed about you but cant place it. They never guess either LOL Once they see your the same guy just a bit enhanced they will be fine. An OD would be people totally being repelled by you or being overly aggressive and argumentative . Other guys will challenge you more. OD happens with both friends and strangers. Ghosting can happen as well. That is when everyone acts like your not there. However your friends didnt actually do that, they kept looking at you trying to place what was different about you. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![canadiank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@canadiank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/canadiank)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2011, 11:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-ghosting-and-oding-and-how-do-you-deal-with-it/48968/4 "2011-02-22T23:31:06Z")
Thanks for the advice. I’m pretty active, and I eat fairly well, and I’m taking some supplements that raise hormone levels… I’ve got a pretty decent amount of testosterone, based on some older bloodwork. Maybe I should stick to a lower dose of A314. It seems like less is more with [pheromones](https://a314.com/). I’ll have to look into the contents of the bottles a little more closely this weekend, too. I keep seeing that -none is probably going to cause discomfort if I don’t watch the amounts I’m applying. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 8:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-ghosting-and-oding-and-how-do-you-deal-with-it/48968/5 "2012-05-13T08:26:05Z")
Which supplements are you taking? Just wondering.. ---
**Author:** ![okyoureabeast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/okyoureabeast/32/1395_2.png) [@okyoureabeast](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/okyoureabeast)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 8:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-ghosting-and-oding-and-how-do-you-deal-with-it/48968/6 "2012-05-13T08:32:46Z")
Ghosting is when your phero vibe makes you practically invisible . People see you and you can engage with them, but ignore you because the vibe isn’t congruent to your signature. ODing on the other hand is when you have too much, for example none, and the results are visible. Sit down at a bar and the entire bar eventually gets up and leaves. I’ve seen it happen and I could effectively make it seem like I was going to kill someone. A314 and tuth amongst others was used that night. A shower will fix an OD with new clothes. Ghosting in my experience is acting incongruent. Sometimes however I’m not in the right mindset to go out so that is also the effect. ---
**Author:** ![xdreamr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/f07891/32.png) [@xdreamr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xdreamr)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 11:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-ghosting-and-oding-and-how-do-you-deal-with-it/48968/7 "2012-05-13T11:25:47Z")
What if a certain group if people are used to your phero sig using mones, then suddenly you stop wearing mones?