# what is in instant shine? **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 13, 2008, 6:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-in-instant-shine/22861 "2008-11-13T18:37:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![abqbelly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/abqbelly/32/2448_2.png) [@abqbelly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/abqbelly)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 6:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-in-instant-shine/22861/1 "2008-11-13T18:37:30Z")
does anynone know what [pheromones](https://a314.com/) are in instant shine and why its marketed as a male pheromonal? ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 6:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-in-instant-shine/22861/2 "2008-11-13T18:49:26Z")
The main phero in [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) is “Test Molecule A” or TAA. It is not androstenol, -none or copulins at all but something… completely different. I think (not entirely sure though) that promising looking, if somewhat obscure, molecules that have been analysed (in the various secretions of humanity), and then synthesized (with petrochemistry), start off as putatives, and, if enough data is in, the molecule gets branded a “test” molecule. It was initially thought to be exclusively male, but women have been wearing it and seeing great results from it for some time now… so now it is considered unisex. But I don’t think the store has revised its listings to account for that. Either that, or they put different little bits of extra pheros in depending on whether the order is from a man or a woman. ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 6:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-in-instant-shine/22861/3 "2008-11-13T18:51:23Z")
It’s really unisex. If I remember right, it’s mostly nols, alpha and beta, but I could be wrong. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 1:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-in-instant-shine/22861/4 "2008-11-14T01:33:54Z")
AWww Jim nope, spanks for you 😃 LOL Ishine is predominately TAA except its has 2 other mones. Its unisex, when it came out they thought it was for men but the women fell in love with it. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 1:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-in-instant-shine/22861/5 "2008-11-14T01:43:42Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > AWww Jim nope, spanks for you 😃 LOL Promise??🙄 You’re right I was thinking about something else. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 2:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-in-instant-shine/22861/6 "2008-11-14T02:00:23Z")
Like Mr 23 writes, IS is mostly TAA. However it is fabled to contain other “steering” mones to help longevity and other loose ends. Unfortunately IS never did much for me, and I went through 30 ml bottles of 1x and 2X trying. Oddly, plan TAA spray appears to be “da bomb” as 4 or 5 zaps of 25mcg mingled with [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) or PheroPhoof and all hell breaks loose. Perhaps the steering mones in IS cancel out TAA when combined with my body chemistry. ---
**Author:** ![remmy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/remmy/32/2451_2.png) [@remmy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/remmy)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 2:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-in-instant-shine/22861/7 "2008-11-14T02:14:38Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Like Mr 23 writes, IS is mostly TAA. However it is fabled to contain other “steering” mones to help longevity and other loose ends. Unfortunately IS never did much for me, and I went through 30 ml bottles of 1x and 2X trying. Oddly, plan TAA spray appears to be “da bomb” as 4 or 5 zaps of 25mcg mingled with Ammo or PheroPhoof and all hell breaks loose. Perhaps the steering mones in IS cancel out TAA when combined with my body chemistry. hm.. i might be like you actually. im currently trying ISx2 right now and i havent really gotten anything out of it. maybe ill give TAA a shot afterwards 🙂 thanx for the heads up! ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 2:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-in-instant-shine/22861/8 "2008-11-14T02:31:01Z")
Hmm. Yes, Shine is made of 3 components. Mainly TAA, a little TAF and one other I can’t reveal. (or maybe I can’t remember it 🙂) I know it’s something that shouldn’t interfere with an Ammo or Pheroproof mix, though. I figure it must be the TAF interfering? ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 2:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-in-instant-shine/22861/9 "2008-11-14T02:51:55Z")
A little TAF as well? Well, you learn something new every day 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 5:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-in-instant-shine/22861/10 "2008-11-14T05:47:49Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > Hmm. Yes, Shine is made of 3 components. Mainly TAA, a little TAF and one other I can’t reveal. (or maybe I can’t remember it 🙂) K, but if I PM you with guess, would ya tell me if I was right? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2008, 9:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-in-instant-shine/22861/11 "2008-11-15T21:15:01Z")
Mark, and if I PM you with my guess, you would reveal it to me too, right?😃 ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2008, 10:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-in-instant-shine/22861/12 "2008-11-15T22:17:33Z")
> [@nbully79](#): > > Mark, and if I PM you with my guess, you would reveal it to me too, right?😃 Oh no! What did I start? Don’t tell me we’re looking at another ICM thread. 😮 😃 I would almost bet dimes to dollars that you’ve already got it figured out though, judging from how well you did nailing the molecules in ICM 0.25.1a. ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2008, 11:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-in-instant-shine/22861/13 "2008-11-15T23:01:40Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Like Mr 23 writes, IS is mostly TAA. However it is fabled to contain other “steering” mones to help longevity and other loose ends. Unfortunately IS never did much for me, and I went through 30 ml bottles of 1x and 2X trying. Oddly, plan TAA spray appears to be “da bomb” as 4 or 5 zaps of 25mcg mingled with Ammo or PheroPhoof and all hell breaks loose. Perhaps the steering mones in IS cancel out TAA when combined with my body chemistry. I see something similar, Gegogi, except IS _does_ work for me. TAA just works infinitely better. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2008, 12:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-in-instant-shine/22861/14 "2008-11-16T00:21:59Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > Oh no! What did I start? Don’t tell me we’re looking at another ICM thread. 😮 😃 > > I would almost bet dimes to dollars that you’ve already got it figured out though, judging from how well you did nailing the molecules in ICM 0.25.1a. no, we won’t go down that road again…😛 I am curious though, as many people recently are reporting better effects with TAA. I was blown over when I first tried IS, but lately I get nothing from it. I got IS2x as a freebie and was shocked to see very little to no effects. I plan to try TAA and check this phenomena for myself. I think [MX203](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx203/) might have numbed my senses. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2008, 9:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-in-instant-shine/22861/15 "2008-11-16T09:03:25Z")
I get results from both TAA and Ishine. I do notice if I dont give Ishine a break once in a while I become accustomed to it and dont get the self effects like Gegogi has mentioned can happen. I do however get the reactions from others still. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 3:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-in-instant-shine/22861/16 "2008-11-18T15:04:51Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > K, but if I PM you with guess, would ya tell me if I was right? 🙂 Hey, maybe. Like the Penn & Teller of old (back when they were REALLY good and REALLY funny), we’re eager to reveal much of our current bag of tricks, so we can free our minds up to make even better ones. PM though? I dunno, Mark. With my recent public posts, I’ve been over pmed again. To get through the current ones, I’m probably going to have to close the PM box down. (or maybe it’ll overload and shut itself down!) Just give me a call sometime. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 3:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-in-instant-shine/22861/17 "2008-11-18T15:49:08Z")
> [@nbully79](#): > > no, we won’t go down that road again…😛 I am curious though, as many people recently are reporting better effects with TAA. I was blown over when I first tried IS, but lately I get nothing from it. I got IS2x as a freebie and was shocked to see very little to no effects. I plan to try TAA and check this phenomena for myself. I think MX203 might have numbed my senses. Which batch of IS2X was that, btw? It should say on the bottle. I want to review batch logs. Make sure these things are being built to spec. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 3:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-in-instant-shine/22861/18 "2008-11-18T15:56:18Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > PM though? I dunno, Mark. I now have more PMs than I could ever answer. I’m going to have to close the PM box down. (or maybe it’ll overload and shut itself down!) Just give me a call sometime. How about when someone PM’s you, instead of getting the message saying “Your message has been sent”, they get a little popup window saying “Your PM has gone off into never-neverland”. 😉 I hadn’t really thought about how many PM’s you get, although I guess I should have realized that you must get inundated with them. I will give you a call though, cause I also picked up some domain names awhile back that you might want, and if so I’m happy to transfer them over to you. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 5:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-in-instant-shine/22861/19 "2008-11-18T17:00:20Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > How about when someone PM’s you, instead of getting the message saying “Your message has been sent”, they get a little popup window saying “Your PM has gone off into never-neverland”. 😉 > > I hadn’t really thought about how many PM’s you get, although I guess I should have realized that you must get inundated with them. I will give you a call though, cause I also picked up some domain names awhile back that you might want, and if so I’m happy to transfer them over to you. 🙂 Hehe, cute idea. I do want people to be heard, though. I read PMs a lot faster than I can respond to them. I’ll easily spend over an hour on a PM response sometimes, which doesn’t really work with the other stuff I do. I’ll give you a taste. One paragraph, no linebreaks 🙂 Co-ordinating the chemistry we’re doing in the background to push core tech forward and the legal stuff needed to push business+our new R&D structure forward (which has been dragging on for moonnnnths) have each been full time jobs. Both geniuses and lawyers take a lot of time to co-ordinate, each for different but somehow eerily similar reasons. 🙂 Recently scouted a new location for the lab, redid the space, moved the lab, have been split testing the effects of light and 420nm vs 460nm, etc. on work efficiency & happiness (so we can get ready to move to a more conscientious but darker area). Now supervising and helping to upgrade processes. Researching and upgrading to better lab equipment (more accurate pipetting systems, etc.) Banging my head against the wall dealing with the zombified gatekeepers at our world famous perfumer. Found and am now working with a new local based perfumer to help replace that world famous perfumer (I hope to get him on the forum to interact w/everyone, too!). Dealing with the occasional off-kilter or even blackhat invader here on the forum (enormous attention dilution there!!) Teaching my team to replace the functions I do naturally. (surprisingly not easy to get some stuff to stick, even with smart peeps) Doing the normal stuff, where I deal with being double billed, overbilled, all that nonsense (companies always seem very insist on NOT giving $ back that they took, but shouldn’t have). Working with some of the very few honest phero companies to aid 3rd party agencies to help come and police this industry (we were told by whitehat marketers that we’ll never be able to compete honestly with the dishonest blackhat conmen who creates bogus studies, bogus COAs, violate patent laws, and just outright lie and commit fraud in this market - “they are cancers in your market, and must be dealt with before you can move forward with honest products and honest claims”). Then there’s DHL pulling out of the US… and all kinds of crapola to deal with… Dude, my plate overfloweth! 😮 I like calls, though. I think I’ll setup a new phone line w/ a hard call limit on it. Maybe 5 or 10 minutes. Then put that up once a week or biweekly. I REALLY need to HEAR from everyone. I not only miss everyone, but I also need hear actual voices and emotion, to make sure we’re on-track, making people happy overall, and not offending anyone too much. 🙂 Forums are amazing 24 hour resources, but sometimes this whole text thing is a little too disconnected from reality for me.