# What is the best first product? **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [November 20, 2007, 4:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-best-first-product/6774 "2007-11-20T04:17:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![footsie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7c8e57/32.png) [@footsie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/footsie)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2007, 4:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-best-first-product/6774/1 "2007-11-20T04:17:52Z")
Hi! I’m new to the whole [Pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) business and very curious. I’ve already read up on most of the terms used here. Thanks to “Basic Noob Phero Bootcamp” Age: 18 Sex: Male Location: Florida (HUMID AS HELL) Race: Asian My intentions aren’t necessarily sex, but rather an increase in attention overall. I have read somewhere that asian men produce less -none than men of other race. Well if this is true, I might be in a quagmire. Most people say I look younger than my actually age (Which is somewhat typical of Asians) but some to an extreme (14). That might give off the idea that I am not masculine enough. ( Which I don’t want ) Basically I need help choosing a product that will : 1. Give me a **cooler** /friendlier/flirtier/older image. 2. Open people up to talking/flirting with me. 3. Create opportunities. (GET NOTICED MORE OFTEN) 4. Be very subtle, but effective. 5. Attract girls between the ages 16 ~ 20. ( I"m 18 ) So basically, I need help from you guys choosing a product that will work for me. I just really need something that will increase the level of interest girls have on me. It doesn’t need to be much (Like having a group of girls all around touching and nibbling up on me). I am very much a realist and is willing to **work**. Just a little push to help me out and I can do the rest. When you hear the word Pheromone, Which product comes first to your mind? ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2007, 4:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-best-first-product/6774/2 "2007-11-20T04:24:43Z")
Welcome. Good intro. Try Instant Honesty, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), Instant Shine. later try ammo, single strength. But go easy. To go bottles are easier on the wallet, while you’re figuring things out. ---
**Author:** ![DrZorters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@DrZorters](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DrZorters)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2007, 4:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-best-first-product/6774/3 "2007-11-20T04:28:02Z")
Welcome to the forum foot! I am from Florida also. Try [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) to make you seem older than you are. Instant Openness should help with conversation. Avoid high androstenone products. Young men like yourself usually produce plenty of androstenone. Read the stickies in the mens forum. They will give you more detailed information on what to expect from each product. Have fun with whatever you choose. DrZorters ---
**Author:** ![Savinien](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/savinien/32/1310_2.png) [@Savinien](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Savinien)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2007, 4:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-best-first-product/6774/4 "2007-11-20T04:35:35Z")
> [@footsie](#): > > My intentions aren’t necessarily sex, but rather an increase in attention overall. Okay - that rules out Turn Up The Heat. > [@](#): > > I look younger than my actually age Add some respect with A314 - it will make you seem older, I’ll bet. > [@](#): > > 1. Give me a **cooler** /friendlier/flirtier/older image. A314, [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), Instant Shine > [@](#): > > 1. Open people up to talking/flirting with me. Come Talk to Me, Instant Openness, Instant Shine, Instant Female Magic > [@](#): > > 1. Create opportunities. (GET NOTICED MORE OFTEN) > 2. Be very subtle, but effective. A314, AMMO > [@](#): > > 1. Attract girls between the ages 16 ~ 20. ( I"m 18 ) Charm, integrity, humor, money for gift jewelry, chocolates, etc. ---
**Author:** ![footsie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7c8e57/32.png) [@footsie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/footsie)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2007, 4:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-best-first-product/6774/5 "2007-11-20T04:35:52Z")
Thanks guy! Holy crap fast reply. Time to order =] ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2007, 5:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-best-first-product/6774/6 "2007-11-20T05:53:43Z")
Welcome to the forum, I agree with most everything Savinien suggested, with one exception: Buying women gifts, jewelry and chocolates does not create attraction. Save the gifts and such for after you have been in a relationship for awhile, otherwise women can perceive it as you trying to buy them, and they’ll lose interest fast. ---
**Author:** ![waywaysan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@waywaysan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/waywaysan)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2007, 6:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-best-first-product/6774/7 "2007-11-20T06:09:07Z")
so i laughed really hard (at myself) when you said that because you’re asian you tend to look younger then what you really are. well if it makes you feel any better, i am asian also. 20yrs old, sophomore in college. 100% of everyone that first meets me say im 16-17 and a sophomore in highschool. lol. 15/16 year old girls hit on me because they think im their age and any girl 18 or over basically avoid me because i look too young… unless of course they know me. but welcome to the forums, im new too. if this is at any help to you, i’ve done my own research just 5 mins ago. **A314** leads others to respect you more, gives you more of a leader/ serious vibe. good for jobs! **AMMUNITION** leads others to notice you more, give you more attention. like a liquid magnet? i like this because i am a attention whore. =D i think my favorite one and the one i will probably order first would be **[Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)**. which gives you more confidence and makes everyone happier and more carefree. basically it sounds like it would make any night a good and fun night. more power to you man, i hope you are successful with the ladies! i want to hear about it! ---
**Author:** ![Savinien](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/savinien/32/1310_2.png) [@Savinien](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Savinien)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2007, 6:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-best-first-product/6774/8 "2007-11-20T06:33:49Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > Buying women gifts, jewelry and chocolates does not create attraction. I’m just tired, and the joke didn’t come out right - Mark is right, of course. I think I took a tangent after the word humor, sorry.:o ---
**Author:** ![footsie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7c8e57/32.png) [@footsie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/footsie)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2007, 6:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-best-first-product/6774/9 "2007-11-20T06:36:16Z")
I thought his joke was funny, Since teenage girls nowadays are incredibly materialistic. It’s quiet sad actually. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2007, 2:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-best-first-product/6774/10 "2007-11-20T14:59:51Z")
Savinien, Thanks for allowing me to provide my input and repping me. I was almost afraid to do so, as I didn’t want to step on you, but from past experiences (bad ones) I felt I had to put in my 2 cents worth about the consequences of trying to buy attention and being too nice. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2007, 12:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-best-first-product/6774/11 "2007-11-22T00:25:57Z")
Not only fast on the replies but solid advice too. Well all I have to offer is this GC. Have fun and welcome to the forum