# What is the "fallout effect"? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 6, 2010, 11:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-fallout-effect/41433 "2010-09-06T11:26:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![blackadam71](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blackadam71/32/1032_2.png) [@blackadam71](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/blackadam71)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 11:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-fallout-effect/41433/1 "2010-09-06T11:26:02Z")
I read a few posts about a fallout effect. Can someone explain in full detail of what that is? And how [pheromone](https://a314.com/) plays a part in that ? Blackadam71 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 1:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-fallout-effect/41433/2 "2010-09-06T13:19:05Z")
I never heard of the fall out effect. I heard of the OD effect and the crash and burn and the head rush effect but thats it. I am looking forward to the answer to this one to 😃 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 1:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-fallout-effect/41433/3 "2010-09-06T13:30:27Z")
**Fallout** means that a woman latches on to you as a result of pheromone exposure. She wants to be with you and wants to spend more time with you. A314 is know for causing this type of reaction because you are seen by her as having high value. > [@MX347 Fallout...](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx347-fallout/41247/5): > > I know the typical Fallout effect associated with A314 is a gradual buildup of attraction that causes girls to get really attached, possessive, etc. Rather than a gradual effect from the slow release of the same mones that are in A314 (via the oil-base) those from MX347 are right there, all at once, in your face and quite honestly scary and had me worried. That’s definitely going to take some getting used to. Check out this thread also > [@A314 Users: Have you experienced "Fallout"?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-users-have-you-experienced-fallout/33690): > > This is a quote by MHarris: "I’ll explain “fallout” in more detail: women tend to want typical [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) users all for themselves. It’s truly a “this is my man” type of mix, when used for attraction. [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) can attract some amazing women to you, normally out of reach women – no doubt – but it comes with a price normally. That price is often ownership of your soul." Essentially, Harris says that when a man who wears A314 starts getting closer with a women(physically/emotionally) it causes women to wan… ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 1:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-fallout-effect/41433/4 "2010-09-06T13:45:15Z")
A new slang term in pheromone use, generally I just call that a hit. Thank you for sharing. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Aghor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aghor/32/1558_2.png) [@Aghor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aghor)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 1:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-fallout-effect/41433/5 "2010-09-06T13:50:46Z")
do u mean this blackadam ? > [@A314 Users: Have you experienced "Fallout"?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-users-have-you-experienced-fallout/33690): > > This is a quote by MHarris: "I’ll explain “fallout” in more detail: women tend to want typical [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) users all for themselves. It’s truly a “this is my man” type of mix, when used for attraction. [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) can attract some amazing women to you, normally out of reach women – no doubt – but it comes with a price normally. That price is often ownership of your soul." Essentially, Harris says that when a man who wears A314 starts getting closer with a women(physically/emotionally) it causes women to wan… > [@A314 Users: Have you experienced "Fallout"?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-users-have-you-experienced-fallout/33690/1): > > This is a quote by MHarris: > > **"I’ll explain “fallout” in more detail:** women tend to want typical [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) users all for themselves. It’s truly a “this is my man” type of mix, when used for attraction. [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) can attract some amazing women to you, normally out of reach women – no doubt – but it comes with a price normally. That price is often ownership of your soul." > > Essentially, Harris says that when a man who wears A314 starts getting closer with a women(physically/emotionally) it causes women to want to latch on to you. Of course this is metaphorical but it does make sense. > > Pesonally, I’m experiencing this RIGHT NOW. Even though me and this girl aren’t “official” she still trys to include me in a lot of things like scheduling college workshops with me, eating with me, asking where I’m going, wanting me to be around her, all that stuff. And she probably qualifies for the “out of reach” women because I can tell you that 3 years ago I wouldn’t have had a CHANCE with this girl. > > Has anyone else experienced or is experiencing “A314 fallout”? ---
**Author:** ![blackadam71](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blackadam71/32/1032_2.png) [@blackadam71](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/blackadam71)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 3:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-fallout-effect/41433/6 "2010-09-06T15:07:54Z")
> [@Aghor](#): > > do u mean this blackadam ? > [A314 Users: Have you experienced "Fallout"?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-users-have-you-experienced-fallout/33690) Yes, thank you Aghor. But I also want to know in this fallout can make a woman make fun of other women, and lie about other women so that she can have my full attention? ---
**Author:** ![blackadam71](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blackadam71/32/1032_2.png) [@blackadam71](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/blackadam71)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 3:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-fallout-effect/41433/7 "2010-09-06T15:24:06Z")
> [@paradox1](#): > > **Fallout** means that a woman latches on to you as a result of pheromone exposure. She wants to be with you and wants to spend more time with you. > > A314 is know for causing this type of reaction because you are seen by her as having high value. > > Check out this thread also > > [A314 Users: Have you experienced "Fallout"?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-users-have-you-experienced-fallout/33690) It seems like this “fallout” mean alot more deeper. Dose it mean that a woman wants to be more exclusive to you? Maybe have a more of a long term relationship then just dating or a one night stand? ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 3:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-fallout-effect/41433/8 "2010-09-06T15:32:32Z")
> [@blackadam71](#): > > It seems like this “fallout” mean alot more deeper. Dose it mean that a woman wants to be more exclusive to you? Maybe have a more of a long term relationship then just dating or a one night stand? From the impression I got reading MHarris’s posts on the subject, fallout is a very extreme level of territorial possessiveness. Now I may be wrong but I was under the impression that fallout usually only happens after sex. I’ve also heard that A1 can enhance it, so basically if you want the woman to become obsessed with you (some guys like that level of attention) then after sex excuse yourself to the bathroom and apply some A314 or MX347, and some A1 at point close to where she might be resting her head and then sleep like that so she gets a good long exposure while basking in the afterglow. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 9:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-fallout-effect/41433/9 "2010-09-06T21:38:11Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > From the impression I got reading MHarris’s posts on the subject, fallout is a very extreme level of territorial possessiveness. Now I may be wrong but I was under the impression that fallout usually only happens after sex. > > I’ve also heard that A1 can enhance it, so basically if you want the woman to become obsessed with you (some guys like that level of attention) then after sex excuse yourself to the bathroom and apply some A314 or MX347, and some A1 at point close to where she might be resting her head and then sleep like that so she gets a good long exposure while basking in the afterglow. I don’t think this would be healthy for both parties though - sniffing mones all night, heh ---
**Author:** ![blackadam71](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blackadam71/32/1032_2.png) [@blackadam71](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/blackadam71)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2010, 5:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-fallout-effect/41433/10 "2010-09-08T05:57:17Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > From the impression I got reading MHarris’s posts on the subject, fallout is a very extreme level of territorial possessiveness. Now I may be wrong but I was under the impression that fallout usually only happens after sex. > > I’ve also heard that A1 can enhance it, so basically if you want the woman to become obsessed with you (some guys like that level of attention) then after sex excuse yourself to the bathroom and apply some A314 or MX347, and some A1 at point close to where she might be resting her head and then sleep like that so she gets a good long exposure while basking in the afterglow. Can IG or IH cause this same fallout effect as A314 or MX347? Or by just wearing any pheromone, because by wearing the product and acting the part a man can standout from the crowd? ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 6:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-fallout-effect/41433/11 "2010-09-09T06:04:39Z")
Wanted to chime in since I was asked about this in a PM. The Fallout Effect, a.k.a. the “A314 Stalker Crush” is usually caused when a women falls head over heels for a guy wearing A314 or a similar a-rone product. It’s happened to me a grand total of 3 times within the past year and it’s very hard to stop once it gets started. Now, one thing I’ve been trying to figure out is WHY it happens and the answer actually ties in with “One-itis”. The more value a man (or woman) has, the more likely one-itis will occur whenever they hook up with somebody. Fallout usually only occurs when the wearer has more value than his target. If the girl you’re with is a 9 and you (with the addition of A314) are an 11 (to her) then you can bet you’re last dollar she’ll do whatever it takes to keep you because to her you’re a PRIZE. DHV at it’s finest guys. Now there are a variety of ways to induce the fallout effect. Obviously the first is simply just wearing A314 solo. Nothing fancy about that. Just 1,2, or 3 drops straight and you’re good to go. The second way, is A314 used in conjunction with [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/). THIS was how I got my first fallout effect started. Beta-nol’s bonding properties mixed with A314 value/confidence/Alpha male vibe is great at making women comfortable, especially with repeated exposure. Adding a few shots of IO could help too. The 3rd way (and my personal favorite) is of course A1. I honestly shouldn’t have to go into details on this one, but A1’s crushy effects mixed with A314 can definitely get the ball rolling fast. Obviously using A314 with both IH _and_ A1 can do great things as well. 4th way, is using MX297. Yes, suprisingly MX297 can indeed produce the fallout effect at least in my experience. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 6:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-fallout-effect/41433/12 "2010-09-09T06:07:54Z")
You know, I did mention in the other thread that " 2xAMMO+ 2xIH + 1x IS" combo or something along that line causes fall-out also. I think IH - combined with AMMO, A314, IG - can cause “fall-out” effect. I don’t think it is just A314. I think IH is the driving factor; of course, you also need a nice masculine mix thrown in there. ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 6:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-fallout-effect/41433/13 "2010-09-09T06:10:29Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > You know, I did mention in the other thread that " 2xAMMO+ 2xIH + 1x IS" combo or something along that line causes fall-out also. I think IH - combined with AMMO, A314, IG - can cause “fall-out” effect. I don’t think it is just A314. I agree, it can definitely be caused by other pheros but the “old school” definition is focused on A314 mainly because it worked so well with it. I’d say that anything with some a-rone in it has potential to work the same way. ---
**Author:** ![TheBoogieMan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theboogieman/32/1136_2.png) [@TheBoogieMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheBoogieMan)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 6:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-fallout-effect/41433/14 "2010-09-09T06:12:43Z")
> [@K-Train](#): > > 4th way, is using MX297. Yes, suprisingly MX297 can indeed produce the fallout effect at least in my experience. Hmm…there’s been a flood of interesting [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) feedback lately and much of it is conflicting. I’m really curious as to what exactly is going on with this one. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 6:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-fallout-effect/41433/15 "2010-09-09T06:13:03Z")
well, ammo and IG both have -rone too 😉 Edit: I think [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) has some rone too, lol ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 6:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-fallout-effect/41433/16 "2010-09-09T06:15:19Z")
> [@TheBoogieMan](#): > > Hmm…there’s been a flood of interesting MX297 feedback lately and much of it is conflicting. I’m really curious as to what exactly is going on with this one. Yes I’ve read some weird reports too. Steve claims that [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) is pretty beta compared to A314, yet there are those here that like it _better_ than A314. I’ve heard people say they’ve got jack shit from it, others that swear by it, the list goes on and on. It should be noted that when I did experience the fallout effect with MX297 I was using it _with_ A1. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 6:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-fallout-effect/41433/17 "2010-09-09T06:19:28Z")
Everyone is different, and that’s the whole point of testing. If it works for you, and gets results that get the job done, the let it be. We’re all friends here and it wont matter if it works for one and not the other. Go with what works for you and not someone else. Just in my case, when I looked at Steves report and tried something else close to it, based on my experiences, it worked better for me. But there are others who have gotten great results from it that I never have. Point being, if it works, then go for it, use what everyone else says as a guidepost. It may help you understand it better but if its working then why mess with it. ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 6:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-fallout-effect/41433/18 "2010-09-09T06:27:33Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Everyone is different, and that’s the whole point of testing. > > If it works for you, and gets results that get the job done, the let it be. > > We’re all friends here and it wont matter if it works for one and not the other. Go with what works for you and not someone else. Just in my case, when I looked at Steves report and tried something else close to it, based on my experiences, it worked better for me. But there are others who have gotten great results from it that I never have. > > Point being, if it works, then go for it, use what everyone else says as a guidepost. It may help you understand it better but if its working then my mess with it. Not really adding anything here but I like seeing a Dark horse mentioning something contrast. It sparks debate and collaboration. While agreement and profound likeness in results and personal conclusions is the key to true validation we need to promote debate so richer/deeper knowledge has the possibility of being discovered. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 6:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-fallout-effect/41433/19 "2010-09-09T06:36:18Z")
[Nuclear fallout - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout) Nuclear fallout - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Fallout just refers to side effects, usually in the negative. Ripples cast from a stone. Your mix and your behavior being the stone. Not all side effects are negative. You can use careful planning to almost design positive fallout. For instance, a good social mix often does good for everyone around you, and can create a positive chain of events much like “paying it forward” does Our favorite mixes are ones that have a built in pay it forward effect, more than unwanted fallout. The more fallout, the less we like it. You could say that grogginess, headache and diabetes are fallout from full sugar Coca Cola. On a societal level, you could say it’s absenteeism, loss of productivity, recession. Well, maybe not ALL from a can of coke, but you get the idea 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![blackadam71](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blackadam71/32/1032_2.png) [@blackadam71](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/blackadam71)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 12:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-fallout-effect/41433/20 "2010-09-10T00:08:57Z")
> [@K-Train](#): > > Wanted to chime in since I was asked about this in a PM. > > The Fallout Effect, a.k.a. the “A314 Stalker Crush” is usually caused when a women falls head over heels for a guy wearing A314 or a similar a-rone product. It’s happened to me a grand total of 3 times within the past year and it’s very hard to stop once it gets started. > > Now, one thing I’ve been trying to figure out is WHY it happens and the answer actually ties in with “One-itis”. The more value a man (or woman) has, the more likely one-itis will occur whenever they hook up with somebody. Fallout usually only occurs when the wearer has more value than his target. If the girl you’re with is a 9 and you (with the addition of A314) are an 11 (to her) then you can bet you’re last dollar she’ll do whatever it takes to keep you because to her you’re a PRIZE. DHV at it’s finest guys. > > Now there are a variety of ways to induce the fallout effect. Obviously the first is simply just wearing A314 solo. Nothing fancy about that. Just 1,2, or 3 drops straight and you’re good to go. > > The second way, is A314 used in conjunction with Instant Honesty. THIS was how I got my first fallout effect started. Beta-nol’s bonding properties mixed with A314 value/confidence/Alpha male vibe is great at making women comfortable, especially with repeated exposure. Adding a few shots of IO could help too. > > The 3rd way (and my personal favorite) is of course A1. I honestly shouldn’t have to go into details on this one, but A1’s crushy effects mixed with A314 can definitely get the ball rolling fast. Obviously using A314 with both IH _and_ A1 can do great things as well. > > 4th way, is using MX297. Yes, suprisingly MX297 can indeed produce the fallout effect at least in my experience. Thanks K-Train, this sounds like what I’m going through right now with this chick that I know. I have used IS, and IG together while with her. I feel that she wants me all to herself. We’re just dating right now but I have the feeling she want to become a couple. We haven’t had sex yet, so can a fallout happen without having sex? [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-fallout-effect/41433.md?page=2)