# What is truly the difference between Instant Openness and Instant Honesty?

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**Created:** [July 8, 2013, 4:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-truly-the-difference-between-instant-openness-and-instant-honesty/59528 "2013-07-08T16:18:36Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 10:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-truly-the-difference-between-instant-openness-and-instant-honesty/59528/4 "2013-07-08T22:17:58Z")

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I got the best results with IO and IH together..about 3 of each being a good start. Each has alpha and beta nol, such that one is 70/30 and the other 30/70. You can shift where you guide the conversation dynamically. If you buy 1 of each, you should be able to use 3 sprays each IO and IH 3 times per week for one 1 month. Use it around people you want to get closer to. At the end of that month, you may find some important changes. If you can afford to use 4 sprays of IH with the IO just 2-3 times per week, at 4 sprays, it gets very interesting. These evolved from cttm2, but they aren’t the same. Also, they used to offer 4X IH. The interesting stuff starts to happen at 4 sprays, but some miss it. Try it. Once they perfected IH from alpha and beta nol and CTTM2, people started seeing some benefits in IH that none of the previous products offered. Something _deeper_, if you will.

> [@Ordered IO, IH, Instant Shine, IFM and A314 at once: plans to test them all in 2006](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-openness-instant-honesty-instant-shine-instant-female-magic-a314/72):
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> I just went nuts and ordered Instant openess, [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/), Instant Shine, Instant first magic and A314!! I will be sure to keep you guys informed as to the effect of these products on me and I will be sure to extensively test these! I am Type O negative. In 2006 I have some major goals and one of the things I am experimenting with to reach those goals are pheromones. Personality improvements, appearance, clothes, lots of time in the gym, and picking up new hobbies rounds out the list.

Now, in this thread, you see how you can’t really duplicate either product with just alpha and beta nol. The ratios and steering are important. Sometimes, the hits don’t jump at you, but the depth comes about with time.

[Come Talk To Me Mix 2 is just alpha and beta nol: how it differs from IO + IH](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-honesty-instant-openness-come-talk-to-me-mix-2/23616)

You can also experiment with 10 mcg P102 along with these.

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