# What is up with this TFL / ' True Forced Loneliness ' Movement? Looks vs Personality. **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [April 23, 2011, 2:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-up-with-this-tfl-true-forced-loneliness-movement-looks-vs-personality/50006 "2011-04-23T02:19:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Marihino](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marihino/32/1286_2.png) [@Marihino](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marihino)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 10:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-up-with-this-tfl-true-forced-loneliness-movement-looks-vs-personality/50006/61 "2011-04-26T22:54:42Z")
It’s midnight here already and I need to get up at 6am. What kind of dreams do you want me to have tonight? ---
**Author:** ![ps86651](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ps86651/32/206_2.png) [@ps86651](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ps86651)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 1:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-up-with-this-tfl-true-forced-loneliness-movement-looks-vs-personality/50006/62 "2011-04-27T01:00:50Z")
To be fair to the Yoda man, he had a point. Looks are very important and matter a lot. Where I believe the difference comes in is how people actually perceive looks. I know many many people who are outstandingly good-looking (to ME) but to others, they are average. I thought that my friend and former flatmate was a very ordinary looking guy. He got married last week! He didn’t do any of this PUA stuff or Mystery man or whatever, he met a girl at someone’s dinner party, hit it off with her and started going out with her. She thinks he’s one of the most handsome men she’s met. Seriously. She tells me that it was my friend’s looks that initially got her attention and attracted her. Personality and other aspects just served to keep things going. I firmly believe that for every man or woman that finds a member of the opposite sex unattractive (looks-wise), there are at least 2 people out there who think the opposite. It’s just a matter of finding them. You know, in my day, this PUA Mystery man stuff was never around, especially not in India, Spain or the UK. We just went to bars, clubs, restaurants, whatever…had a good time and more often than not, met other people who we clicked with. I guess putting a formula to such dynamic interactions may not always be the best way forward…just an opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 2:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-up-with-this-tfl-true-forced-loneliness-movement-looks-vs-personality/50006/63 "2011-04-27T02:30:07Z")
Is anyone still reading the nonsensical ravings of this troll? Personally, I’m skipping them. Ochris - my answer still stands. Lots of not so pretties in WA of both genders hooked up with the luscious. 😮 ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 3:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-up-with-this-tfl-true-forced-loneliness-movement-looks-vs-personality/50006/64 "2011-04-27T03:59:52Z")
I’m just commenting because I’m glad I skipped this post. I’m not sure if it’s related but there seems to be a high incident of crime in NYC coupled with a high incident of trolls on the AD forum… coincidence??? i think not!! ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 4:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-up-with-this-tfl-true-forced-loneliness-movement-looks-vs-personality/50006/65 "2011-04-27T04:13:52Z")
> [@happytappin](#): > > I’m just commenting because I’m glad I skipped this post. I’m not sure if it’s related but there seems to be a high incident of crime in NYC coupled with a high incident of trolls on the AD forum… coincidence??? i think not!! Since you have yet to steer me wrong, I’m inclined to think you know your city best. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 4:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-up-with-this-tfl-true-forced-loneliness-movement-looks-vs-personality/50006/66 "2011-04-27T04:26:25Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > Thanks, Jon. For a minute there, I wasn’t sure what to think, lol. > > Seriously, I think I should just do a couple of shots before logging on here. Some of the crap I’ve read on these boards over the last few days would drive anyone to drink. > > I also think we need a bigger net. 🙄 > > Bella I did a bowl. Just to keep the laughter going. 🙄 And yes, to the net suggestion. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 4:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-up-with-this-tfl-true-forced-loneliness-movement-looks-vs-personality/50006/67 "2011-04-27T04:31:04Z")
> [@Marihino](#): > > LOL I needed to google what a flogger is 😉 Ouch. I mean, **nice** 😃 > > Yeah, let’s celebrate! The weather just got crappy today, but I’m sure it’s nothing you couldn’t sort out with your spells. I have a few…_wishes for a sarcastic angel smiley_ ---
**Author:** ![Marihino](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marihino/32/1286_2.png) [@Marihino](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marihino)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 5:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-up-with-this-tfl-true-forced-loneliness-movement-looks-vs-personality/50006/68 "2011-04-27T05:18:46Z")
I only have a paddle. My last gf used to call it ‘Happytappin’. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 5:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-up-with-this-tfl-true-forced-loneliness-movement-looks-vs-personality/50006/69 "2011-04-27T05:51:31Z")
> [@Master\_Yoda](#): > > And before I get banned from this pathetic forum, I have one last thing to say to you and your brainwashed PUA disciples: Wait a second, did he have us confused with a pick up community? I thought we were more into understanding social dynamics, more like the biology side of things… ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 6:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-up-with-this-tfl-true-forced-loneliness-movement-looks-vs-personality/50006/70 "2011-04-27T06:00:26Z")
> [@TwistedOstrich](#): > > Wait a second, did he have us confused with a pick up community? I thought we were more into understanding social dynamics, more like the biology side of things… We are, apparently, the same thing; different media. Understanding the dynamics, human nature, the nature of human dynamics and the natural dynamics of human and huwomen. Hu. The mantra for Akashic access in Eckankar . . . 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 8:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-up-with-this-tfl-true-forced-loneliness-movement-looks-vs-personality/50006/71 "2011-04-27T08:48:52Z")
> [@Astrea](#): > > We are, apparently, the same thing; different media. Understanding the dynamics, human nature, the nature of human dynamics and the natural dynamics of human and huwomen. Hu. The mantra for Akashic access in Eckankar . . . 🙂 I think my head done went and asploded. ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 9:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-up-with-this-tfl-true-forced-loneliness-movement-looks-vs-personality/50006/72 "2011-04-27T09:33:46Z")
> [@data4](#): > > I think my head done went and asploded. Ah’m pritty sure my braims slagged an’ drippt outta my lef’ ear 😮 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 2:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-up-with-this-tfl-true-forced-loneliness-movement-looks-vs-personality/50006/73 "2011-04-27T14:59:11Z")
> [@Marihino](#): > > I only have a paddle. My last gf used to call it ‘Happytappin’. > > 😃 [http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/lold-44854.jpg](http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/lold-44854.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![rolandcubed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@rolandcubed](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rolandcubed)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 6:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-up-with-this-tfl-true-forced-loneliness-movement-looks-vs-personality/50006/74 "2011-04-27T18:32:43Z")
> [@Master\_Yoda](#): > > This will be my last post here, because I can’t stand condescending, braindead idiots like you, who make false statements about me, because you don’t even know me, and nor have you met me. > > If you can’t read my posts, just because they are in large font, then you need to consult an optometrist, because I can read them just fine. You don’t like what I write, because it’s the truth, and like that famous Jack Nicholson line in a few good men, “you can’t handle the truth”. > > I have approached lots of women, and they rejected me because of my race, looks, not because of “confidence”,“lack of game” etc. > > And before I get banned from this pathetic forum, I have one last thing to say to you and your brainwashed PUA disciples: > > GO AND LOVE YOURSELF!!! Boy, am I glad I didn’t read any of your posts. Well that would be a lie, because I read them and you seem to be unaccepting of other world views. In fact, I’m going to be blunt and say I really don’t care for those who believe that something else is to blame. We walk on our own 2 feet, mommy and daddy aren’t there to support you for your whole life. I’ve personally believed you make your own luck, because the more you believe you’re lucky, the more you actually can realize that you are placing yourself in situations where you allow good fortune to fall into your hands. That being said, your ancestors were able to procreate, why can’t you? Also the large font is pretty well represented in how you carry yourself. You expect to be heard, and you make it through your **font** rather than your _content_. You can’t do the same with women. Make yourself known through your _character_ and not your **looks**. When I was in high school, I believed looks were where it was at. Now that I’m more mature, I _ **know** _ that it’s all about your character and how you carry yourself. Sounds like to me you have some self-esteem issues. A good psychologist would fix you right up. Thanks, I do love myself 😃 Also, we’re not a PUA forum. [Go search PUA forum in google and you’ll see we’re not even there.](http://lmgtfy.com/?q=pua+forum) ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 9:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-up-with-this-tfl-true-forced-loneliness-movement-looks-vs-personality/50006/75 "2011-04-27T21:17:17Z")
EDITORS LOG: To ensure compliance with Michael Harris’ directive to be nice and read all posts in a happy voice I want everyone to know that I changed Master Bater’s text size from THIS to THIS. I also felt it was important to change the font color to something that suits her personality a little better. Pink is such a happy color and you all know how much I love me some pink and squishy 😛. I just kind of sorta skimmed through Master Bater’s post and I was shocked to discover I am the LUCKIEST person to walk the earth and I also must be very, very rich. WOW, who would have known? ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 5:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-up-with-this-tfl-true-forced-loneliness-movement-looks-vs-personality/50006/76 "2011-04-28T05:36:11Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > EDITORS LOG: > To ensure compliance with Michael Harris’ directive to be nice and read all posts in a happy voice I want everyone to know that I changed Master Bater’s text size from THIS to THIS. I also felt it was important to change the font color to something that suits her personality a little better. **Pink is such a happy color and you all know how much I love me some pink and squishy** 😛. > > I just kind of sorta skimmed through Master Bater’s post and I was shocked to discover I am the LUCKIEST person to walk the earth and I also must be very, very rich. WOW, who would have known? Since I already refer to those parts of the body (in polite company) as **Pink Bits** , this made me lol on a bunch of different points. I’m sure, Steve, that you are lucky (you think clearly at least!) and rich in the fact that I’m sure you’ve had you many many pink bits - with or without the assistance of mones. 😛 That we have a pink and squishy smiley is just icing on the cake 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 5:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-up-with-this-tfl-true-forced-loneliness-movement-looks-vs-personality/50006/77 "2011-04-28T05:39:44Z")
I checked tha Master Bater’s public profile. He’s allegedly got a bunch of mones. Do you think that maybe he just wouldn’t take the ‘less is more’ adage to heart and just constantly OD’s and Ghosts himself?😮 ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 5:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-up-with-this-tfl-true-forced-loneliness-movement-looks-vs-personality/50006/78 "2011-04-28T05:44:05Z")
> [@Marihino](#): > > I only have a paddle. My last gf used to call it ‘Happytappin’. > > 😃 hahahhaha.. I just finshed happytappin…the guys post said GO LOVE YOURSELF!!😃 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-up-with-this-tfl-true-forced-loneliness-movement-looks-vs-personality/50006.md?page=3)