# What kind of reactions show you that a pheromone is working?

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [June 12, 2009, 9:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-kind-of-reactions-show-you-that-a-pheromone-is-working/29834 "2009-06-12T21:52:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kramer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/97f17d/32.png) [@Kramer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kramer)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 9:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-kind-of-reactions-show-you-that-a-pheromone-is-working/29834/1 "2009-06-12T21:52:24Z")

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I’m new to [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) and so far I’ve only tested ammunition and only at the mall and other public places like in the bus. I started with 1 spray and then went up to 2 sprays but I noticed no reactions. I thought that if a woman is sitting in front of me in the bus that she’d smell it and turn around or stuff like that. But so far I have not gotten any reactions.  
Is it possible that it simply doesn’t work for some guys or that maybe the pheromone signals don’t match my other signals?  
Do pheromones only work for guys who send out certain vibes? 😕

I also have TUTH at home which I haven’t tried yet, I think I should first stick to 1 product and test it before moving to something else. I read in the description that it says that you should not use TUTH around children. What happens if you use it around children?

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**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 10:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-kind-of-reactions-show-you-that-a-pheromone-is-working/29834/2 "2009-06-12T22:17:45Z")

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Here’s another guy who asked a similar question.

> [@1 month in - am I doing something wrong?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/1-month-in-am-i-doing-something-wrong/29793):
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> Hello all, Pheromone Padawan here who needs some advice. I bought the following Pheromones about a month ago. A314 Turn Up The Heat (came free with the A314) Instant Openess Ammunition [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) to go (came free with the Ammunition) Now, I made sure that I read all of the noob bootcamp stuff first. Also, I did not head down the route of a multiple spray pheromone overload fest and started with a small amount. I have mixed products - i.e trying a little openess with some ammunition, bu…

Hope this helps!

Edit: There are several threads that talk about children, might be a good time to learn to use the search button. I’m not being mean, all questions are welcome but there is a lot of info and searching is quicker than waiting on answers! LOL

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**Author:** ![Kramer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/97f17d/32.png) [@Kramer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kramer)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 10:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-kind-of-reactions-show-you-that-a-pheromone-is-working/29834/3 "2009-06-12T22:19:21Z")

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Thanks, gonna check it out.

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**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 10:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-kind-of-reactions-show-you-that-a-pheromone-is-working/29834/4 "2009-06-12T22:26:53Z")

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Easy:

> [@How to Tell a Woman is Interested In You -- The Master "Indicators of Interest List"](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-tell-a-woman-is-interested-in-you-the-master-indicators-of-interest-list/8333):
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> Multiple looks. Women have much better If you catch us looking at you more than once, it’s probably becuse we’re attracted and we can’t help it. You catching us looking at all. Women look at you fast. If you catch us looking at you, this may be because we’re attracted. Not always (I get horrified when I see someone catching me looking when I’m not actually interested), but often. You guys have muscle, but we have social muscles. WHen you catch us being less than discreet, we often mean it and/…

Enjoy!

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**Author:** ![Kramer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/97f17d/32.png) [@Kramer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kramer)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 10:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-kind-of-reactions-show-you-that-a-pheromone-is-working/29834/5 "2009-06-12T22:31:02Z")

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Thanks, I had read that one before. Good to know how women function.

The other thread was also enlightening. Looks like I cannot really expect much to happen when I just wear this stuff and then walk around.

But something else interests me. How can I tell if pheromones affect myself?  
How to be sure that it’s really the pheromones and not just the placebo effect? When you know for example that a spray shall make you happy or more confident then how do you know that it’s really working and not just imagination?

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**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 10:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-kind-of-reactions-show-you-that-a-pheromone-is-working/29834/6 "2009-06-12T22:43:43Z")

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> [@Kramer](#):
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> Thanks, I had read that one before. Good to know how women function.
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> The other thread was also enlightening. Looks like I cannot really expect much to happen when I just wear this stuff and then walk around.
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> But something else interests me. How can I tell if pheromones affect myself?  
> How to be sure that it’s really the pheromones and not just the placebo effect? When you know for example that a spray shall make you happy or more confident then how do you know that it’s really working and not just imagination?

A large part of learning to use pheromones is the process of learning to interact with people from a fresh perspective. That includes yourself. I wonder every time I spray on a new experimental if what I’m feeling sensing seeing is real or imagined. If you are a real people person, I think you start to get it right away. If you are like me, you get a couple of things right off the bat, but most takes awhile. It takes experience. I think guys who start in their 30s and 40s get the little light bulb over their heads a bit quicker than some younger guys because of more experience with people. There is no one thing that says this is pheromone this is normal. It’s all about patterns.

Go slow, use a product or two at a time. Use them on a regular basis. Take breaks on a regular basis. You’ll see the difference.🙂

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**Author:** ![Elaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5e9695/32.png) [@Elaye](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Elaye)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 3:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-kind-of-reactions-show-you-that-a-pheromone-is-working/29834/7 "2009-06-13T03:01:32Z")

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That is what I’m doing, one or two products in low amounts at a time. If you put in the hours reading this forum you can only be helping yourself. At least get out of your intellectual comfort zone in regards to these products. Maybe what so and so said is substaintial, or hmm that doesn’t sound right, I wonder if…etc etc. Do or do not, there is no try! The possibilities in human communication and interaction are blossoming. To me, reality is subjective to each and every person in their own unique way. Sure, there are many, many things we can all agree on, but in the end the difference between imagination and reality is an archaic and moot point. Pheromones are bio-technology, much like illicit drugs in my opinion. What is real and what is not is a physics question more than an sociological one, so I wouldn’t sweat it if you want to experiment with making certain, on the fly conclusions concerning pheromone effects. You can always change your mind! There are no thought police.

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**Author:** ![Kramer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/97f17d/32.png) [@Kramer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kramer)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 11:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-kind-of-reactions-show-you-that-a-pheromone-is-working/29834/8 "2009-06-13T11:17:23Z")

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Thanks guys and gals,

but somehow i think the whole pheromone topic is also a bit intimidating because it comes across like a real science and i feel like a greenhorn. especially mixing different pheromones and finding out what works seems complicated to me. i guess i will first of all rather stick to 1 product instead of mixing stuff because then it’ll be even harder to figure out what works and what doesn’t work.

but something which would really interest me, which i unfortunately cannot test, is how pheromones affect you. in order to find this out another person would have to wear them and then i could check myself and see if this person suddenly seems different.  
do you think that other people can get confused if you wear pheromones and they suddenly think that something’s different but can’t tell what’s different? but even if they notice something and don’t let you notice that they notice something then you don’t know if they notice something, lol.

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**Author:** ![jlynn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/977dab/32.png) [@jlynn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jlynn)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 7:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-kind-of-reactions-show-you-that-a-pheromone-is-working/29834/9 "2009-06-14T19:54:04Z")

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I spritzed my hubby with Tuth. We went to Sonic. There was a breeze in the air and the young women that gave us our order shock her head like she was woozy and didnt know what hit her. He also had the Alpha male on.  
I have gotten the EXACT same reaction on some people with IS/A. Yesterday we went on the air base and this young MP gave me this HUGE smile and stared at me like I was the most beautiful women he had ever seen. I am NOT btw. My daughters Chess teacher got that woozy look on him shook his head like he was trying to clear it then he became VERY aggressive towards me AND my hubby. He is already an aggressive type but this product seemed to put hime over the top. BTW,it was only 1 spray of IS/a and 1 of [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/). On another note my best friends husband is never very nice to me. He is now smiling at me and even treating me nice, I told my friend I wish I had known about phermones a long time ago. I wear the Instant Sexiness around him and it seems to relax him and he lets his guard down and acts friendly. No sexual overtones just relaxed and nice.

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**Author:** ![jlynn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/977dab/32.png) [@jlynn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jlynn)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 7:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-kind-of-reactions-show-you-that-a-pheromone-is-working/29834/10 "2009-06-14T19:59:15Z")

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Kramer,  
I forgot to add I sprayed my friend with the [Instant Sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) A and she became giddy and giggly. She went to kiss her hubby goodbye before our walk and he also tried to shake it off. Whats in this stuff to make some people woozy and others over the top aggressive.  
Also wanted to let you know this place has some great phermones. I washed my blouse and the scent from the phermone is STILL in my clothing. Sweet I can save a little extra money. VBG

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**Author:** ![Juche](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e495f1/32.png) [@Juche](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Juche)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 10:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-kind-of-reactions-show-you-that-a-pheromone-is-working/29834/11 "2009-06-14T22:00:11Z")

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It depends on the pheromone. I have noticed (but don’t know how much is a placebo) coworkers telling their personal philosophies about religion at work using IH, but I don’t think I’ve noticed anything from IO.

I can tell when I am using an [androstenone pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) as I OD easily and get the lone wolf/clint eastwood effect. However I do not get any self effects from IS (aka TAA). I get giant self effects from androstenone, but no self effects from IS.

Everyone is different. I have noticed that sometimes people will feel more comfortable violating my personal space and boundaries when I use the androstenol pheromones like IO or IH. And I have seen coworkers ‘ask’ my permission (even though they don’t have to) when I have used A314.

But I am also still fairly green, and need to experiment far more to see results to distinguish them from placebo or just seeing what I want/expect to se.

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**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 10:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-kind-of-reactions-show-you-that-a-pheromone-is-working/29834/12 "2009-06-14T22:09:35Z")

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“I have noticed (but don’t know how much is a placebo) coworkers telling their personal philosophies about religion at work using IH, but I don’t think I’ve noticed anything from IO.”

> [@Juche](#):
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> _I have noticed that sometimes people will feel more comfortable violating my personal space and boundaries when I use the androstenol pheromones like **IO** _ or IH.

So then did you or did you not notice anything from IO, because with your last quote you basically just mentioned that you did get an effect from IO but may be just not sure. So which is it? Honestly, I think you did and sometimes that’s the thing with pheromones, the hits are so carefully placed with just enough subtleness that they may just seem like everyday happenings when in reality it’s a pheromone hit. I had a female co-worker one time run her mouth non-stop regarding her private personal history one time I was wearing IO and that really made me notice its effects.

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**Author:** ![Kramer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/97f17d/32.png) [@Kramer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kramer)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 10:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-kind-of-reactions-show-you-that-a-pheromone-is-working/29834/13 "2009-06-14T22:19:07Z")

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Hi everybody!

How quickly do you get these self effects? Instantly or delayed?

And how do you know when you’re overdosing that it’s due to the pheromones? Is it also possible that you simply smell too much like perfume and that people don’t like the smell of it?

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**Author:** ![Juche](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e495f1/32.png) [@Juche](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Juche)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 11:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-kind-of-reactions-show-you-that-a-pheromone-is-working/29834/14 "2009-06-14T23:58:09Z")

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> [@mikotorocks714](#):
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> “I have noticed (but don’t know how much is a placebo) coworkers telling their personal philosophies about religion at work using IH, but I don’t think I’ve noticed anything from IO.”
> 
> So then did you or did you not notice anything from IO, because with your last quote you basically just mentioned that you did get an effect from IO but may be just not sure. So which is it? Honestly, I think you did and sometimes that’s the thing with pheromones, the hits are so carefully placed with just enough subtleness that they may just seem like everyday happenings when in reality it’s a pheromone hit. I had a female co-worker one time run her mouth non-stop regarding her private personal history one time I was wearing IO and that really made me notice its effects.

I was wearing Instant gentleman, IO, IH and IS at the same time, so I am not sure which was responsible however when I wore those I did get some violations of my personal space. I assumed it was because of the -nols in the mix, but it could’ve been another one like TAA.

When I wear IO alone I have not really notice anything.
