# What oh what to do with passive men.Electra needs her groove back! **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 14, 2009, 12:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-oh-what-to-do-with-passive-men-electra-needs-her-groove-back/28040 "2009-04-14T12:54:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ElectraComplex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/electracomplex/32/1257_2.png) [@ElectraComplex](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ElectraComplex)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2009, 12:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-oh-what-to-do-with-passive-men-electra-needs-her-groove-back/28040/1 "2009-04-14T12:54:25Z")
Ok, I admit it i like geeks.I like Intelligent witty guys with a good sense of humor.Even if its a snarky sense of humor. I think shy guys are cute.. But for the love of Pete. I’m frustrated. The Bf has been on this crazy ass low libido swing for the last six months. He did this last year too. I swear he has 3 good libido months a year. Honestly We’re not only out of synch on libido but during sex lately.So close to getting somewhere and lala. Nowhere. _sigh_ So my question is for passive guys or non-alpha types hell femme if there are any femme boys here. What phero’s open you up and turn you on? Other tips would be cool to but keep in mind hes not quite a normal responder.So if its belly dancing strip teases sexy clothes things like that. hell even making nomables.I’ve tried it.⭕confused: Ladies. Anyone else got a passive male they’ve found something that works well on? I’d kill for a good date night and some romance right now. Or at least for my birthday next month.🙄 ---
**Author:** ![remmy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/remmy/32/2451_2.png) [@remmy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/remmy)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 6:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-oh-what-to-do-with-passive-men-electra-needs-her-groove-back/28040/2 "2009-04-15T06:30:27Z")
awww im so sorry ☹ i hate when guys do that. u can probably try lust after me if u have that.. if not.. my best bet is to add a little bit of -none product (never EVER too much) to whatever ur fav mix is (id prob do it with [Instant sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) first to try it out) 🙂 i heard that -none can make the response seem more overt. make sure not to use too much tho.. i have gotten into fights with my TG with too much -none. o ya. and copulins. it smells horrible but it seems to do the job. ---
**Author:** ![txironhead](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/txironhead/32/595_2.png) [@txironhead](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/txironhead)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 7:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-oh-what-to-do-with-passive-men-electra-needs-her-groove-back/28040/3 "2009-04-15T07:59:32Z")
Terrestris Tribulus. It’s a plant extract (herbal supplement) that is used for all kinds of things, and one of the things it’s supposed to do well is boost libido. Works for men and women. It also regulates levels of estrogen, testosterone and progesterone. If the person already has enough of one, it won’t raise it to an unsafe level. Goes under the brand name of Tribestan, but I was at Wal-Mart tonight and discovered that Libido-Max now has Terrestris in it. Any way you get it, you need 35-45% plant extract at 250mg for best results. Three times a day, and for that extra “kick”, four at once before getting it on. So far, I have yet to find any harmful side effects as long as the product is used as directed. Now to sit back and have the medical minds here tear me to shreds… ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 8:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-oh-what-to-do-with-passive-men-electra-needs-her-groove-back/28040/4 "2009-04-15T08:13:32Z")
I concur! Holy smokes does this raise your libido! This taken with “Horny Goat Weed/Epimedium” and/or Longjack/Eurycoma Longifolia Jack _really_ helps. I take a _natural_ testosterone booster (no harmful effects as it just uses these types of herbs) for slight muscle growth and its side effects are a great libido. [Bodybuilding.com - Controlled Labs Blue Up - Natural Testosterone Booster!\* On sale now!](http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clabs/blue.html) > [@txironhead](#): > > Terrestris Tribulus. It’s a plant extract (herbal supplement) that is used for all kinds of things, and one of the things it’s supposed to do well is boost libido. Works for men and women. It also regulates levels of estrogen, testosterone and progesterone. If the person already has enough of one, it won’t raise it to an unsafe level. Goes under the brand name of Tribestan, but I was at Wal-Mart tonight and discovered that Libido-Max now has Terrestris in it. Any way you get it, you need 35-45% plant extract at 250mg for best results. Three times a day, and for that extra “kick”, four at once before getting it on. > > So far, I have yet to find any harmful side effects as long as the product is used as directed. > > Now to sit back and have the medical minds here tear me to shreds… ---
**Author:** ![txironhead](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/txironhead/32/595_2.png) [@txironhead](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/txironhead)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 3:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-oh-what-to-do-with-passive-men-electra-needs-her-groove-back/28040/5 "2009-04-15T15:35:38Z")
Good gad, between all those herbs _and_ [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/), your libido is probably measurable via satellite! ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 3:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-oh-what-to-do-with-passive-men-electra-needs-her-groove-back/28040/6 "2009-04-15T15:41:53Z")
This is all I can say! [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYUI8QmOpFg&feature=related](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYUI8QmOpFg&feature=related) YouTube - Robot humps washing machine ---
**Author:** ![ElectraComplex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/electracomplex/32/1257_2.png) [@ElectraComplex](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ElectraComplex)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 5:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-oh-what-to-do-with-passive-men-electra-needs-her-groove-back/28040/7 "2009-04-15T17:57:06Z")
Lol you guys are funny i’ll give the herb a look up I’m actually a very open person in terms of natural medicine.Thanks for the -none tip off remmy.I was thinking of getting some EOW to mix with the perfume i’m getting myself for my birthday next month athough pink sugar looks interesting I’m thinking of trying Escada Ocean lounge with EOW. Also a very sweet scent reminds me of strawberries and whip cream on me.Sadly no lust after me but I’m gona keep an eye out. ---
**Author:** ![ElectraComplex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/electracomplex/32/1257_2.png) [@ElectraComplex](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ElectraComplex)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-oh-what-to-do-with-passive-men-electra-needs-her-groove-back/28040/8 "2009-04-15T18:00:12Z")
> [@txironhead](#): > > Terrestris Tribulus. . AKA Instant Tribble!😛 ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 8:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-oh-what-to-do-with-passive-men-electra-needs-her-groove-back/28040/9 "2009-04-15T20:32:23Z")
Is the guy worn out? Is he under stress or worrying? Does he need a vacation and some rest? ---
**Author:** ![chasm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chasm/32/2121_2.png) [@chasm](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chasm)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 8:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-oh-what-to-do-with-passive-men-electra-needs-her-groove-back/28040/10 "2009-04-15T20:38:54Z")
Electra, Could it be Seasonal Affective Disorder ? (SAD). You mentioned that it has happened before, have you noticed if it happens during the winter months? Sometimes the lack of sunlight affects other parts of our life, not just mood. Have you tried spraying him with some TUTH? the self-effects can be stimulating. ---
**Author:** ![txironhead](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/txironhead/32/595_2.png) [@txironhead](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/txironhead)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-oh-what-to-do-with-passive-men-electra-needs-her-groove-back/28040/11 "2009-04-15T21:10:54Z")
> mikotorocks714 > > This is all I can say! > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYUI8QmOpFg&feature=related](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYUI8QmOpFg&feature=related) Robot Chicken rocks…I have seasons 1 & 2, plus the Star Wars spoofs. One of my favorites was the one where Optimus Prime had prostrate cancer. (before I get slammed for that remark, if you haven’t seen that episode, you won’t get it, I know prostrate cancer isn’t funny) ---
**Author:** ![ElectraComplex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/electracomplex/32/1257_2.png) [@ElectraComplex](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ElectraComplex)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 9:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-oh-what-to-do-with-passive-men-electra-needs-her-groove-back/28040/12 "2009-04-15T21:48:36Z")
He just has chronic low libido I think its probably hormonal but he just considers it part of his personality at this point. I may try the TUTH later. I don’t have any right now 🙂 🙂 Heck, I think we both need a vacation and some rest. I’ve tried talking about the matter and hes simply like “You know I have a low libido.” I’m partly concerned because its really abnormal for a guy to have THIS low of a libido. He gets a ton of sunlight so its not likely SAD on his end. I have problems with that myself when I’m not living here in cali.Good idea though. To be fair I do have an abnormally high libido but I have been doing my best to be patient and understanding with him.Sometimes though i feel like I’m doing all of the comprimising and I don’t like that so much. Still adore him no matter what though. ---
**Author:** ![chasm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chasm/32/2121_2.png) [@chasm](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chasm)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 10:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-oh-what-to-do-with-passive-men-electra-needs-her-groove-back/28040/13 "2009-04-15T22:02:19Z")
> [@ElectraComplex](#): > > He just has chronic low libido I think its probably hormonal but he just considers it part of his personality at this point. I may try the TUTH later. I don’t have any right now 🙂 🙂 Heck, I think we both need a vacation and some rest. > > I’ve tried talking about the matter and hes simply like “You know I have a low libido.” > > I’m partly concerned because its really abnormal for a guy to have THIS low of a libido. > > He gets a ton of sunlight so its not likely SAD on his end. I have problems with that myself when I’m not living here in cali.Good idea though. > > To be fair I do have an abnormally high libido but I have been doing my best to be patient and understanding with him.Sometimes though i feel like I’m doing all of the comprimising and I don’t like that so much. Still adore him no matter what though. It does seem unusual when you notice a low libido on a guy, specially because everyone pretty much expects us to be hyper-sexual. Sounds like a low testosterone levels, but it could just be that he focuses his energy on other things. I dated a girl who didn’t like to have sex too often because she felt it took time away from other interests. I felt pretty confused until she finally explained this to me. I read in another one of your posts that you have some ammo, maybe try some of that instead of TUTH. The men’s forum, and personal experience, is full of stories relating the self effects of none. Makes you feel like a teenager with uncontrollable boners sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![ElectraComplex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/electracomplex/32/1257_2.png) [@ElectraComplex](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ElectraComplex)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 10:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-oh-what-to-do-with-passive-men-electra-needs-her-groove-back/28040/14 "2009-04-15T22:10:05Z")
> [@chasm](#): > > It does seem unusual when you notice a low libido on a guy, specially because everyone pretty much expects us to be hyper-sexual. Sounds like a low testosterone levels, but it could just be that he focuses his energy on other things. I dated a girl who didn’t like to have sex too often because she felt it took time away from other interests. I felt pretty confused until she finally explained this to me.. He rollerblades a lot and I think the ammo has helped that but it has zero effect I’ve noticed on his personal libido. Rofl amps mine a bit but I’ve been very quiet about it because if it helps him skate I don’t mind. It may be low testosterone but I’m not sure.He’s aggressive/competitive in so many things just not that. i’ll just give him more time. It actually may be me but I’m not sure. Any menopausal women here have issues with your mates loosing interest? ---
**Author:** ![LucidDreamer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/luciddreamer/32/2141_2.png) [@LucidDreamer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LucidDreamer)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-oh-what-to-do-with-passive-men-electra-needs-her-groove-back/28040/15 "2009-04-15T22:18:15Z")
I don’t mean to pry, but has he always been like this, or has it increased along the way? I hope there’s not a “dampening of the flame” in your relationship… ☹ ---
**Author:** ![ElectraComplex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/electracomplex/32/1257_2.png) [@ElectraComplex](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ElectraComplex)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 10:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-oh-what-to-do-with-passive-men-electra-needs-her-groove-back/28040/16 "2009-04-15T22:26:12Z")
According to him hes always been like this its ok to pry.I’m a fairly open person in general.The first hmm six months or so ? of the relationship we were very active after that likely due to strees things went downhill and have stayed at the same kind ..eh state. We’re a good couple at this point and work together a lot to accomplish common goals. However,human sexuality is one of the higher priority base drives which makes it a bit frustrating to fight with. Maybe hes just bored? We’ll be hitting the 2 year mark sometime in June. I noticed the instant honesty helped a bit on the cuddly end and we talked more maybe that + cops. Actually, now that i think about it.This all seemed to start when I went sterile. Biology doing its thing. Rats! ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 10:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-oh-what-to-do-with-passive-men-electra-needs-her-groove-back/28040/17 "2009-04-15T22:31:13Z")
Hate to sound “down”, but this is also a symptom that appears when someone is “getting some on the side”.😠 ---
**Author:** ![chasm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chasm/32/2121_2.png) [@chasm](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chasm)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 10:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-oh-what-to-do-with-passive-men-electra-needs-her-groove-back/28040/18 "2009-04-15T22:39:54Z")
> [@ElectraComplex](#): > > It actually may be me but I’m not sure. Don’t beat yourself up about it, blaming yourself is counterproductive and most likely inaccurate. Sometimes not getting an expected reaction, or receiving a level of attention, from a loved one can be bruising to the ego, but your posts indicate that you are making an active effort to light a spark in the relationship. Try spraying him with 3-4 shots of ammo, maybe a little higher dosage will help. ---
**Author:** ![ElectraComplex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/electracomplex/32/1257_2.png) [@ElectraComplex](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ElectraComplex)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 11:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-oh-what-to-do-with-passive-men-electra-needs-her-groove-back/28040/19 "2009-04-15T23:06:30Z")
> [@Mtnjim](#): > > Hate to sound “down”, but this is also a symptom that appears when someone is “getting some on the side”.😠 I’m aware of that. He’s actually allowed to but says hes not.We live together and none of the general off behavior is there.He goes to work and school but is home on time from both of those.Checks in on me during the day periodically to to make sure I’m ok or if I need anything.No weird text message or calls either. I’m fairly certain its not nefarious. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ElectraComplex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/electracomplex/32/1257_2.png) [@ElectraComplex](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ElectraComplex)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-oh-what-to-do-with-passive-men-electra-needs-her-groove-back/28040/20 "2009-04-15T23:10:11Z")
> [@chasm](#): > > Don’t beat yourself up about it, blaming yourself is counterproductive and most likely inaccurate. Sometimes not getting an expected reaction, or receiving a level of attention, from a loved one can be bruising to the ego, but your posts indicate that you are making an active effort to light a spark in the relationship. > > Try spraying him with 3-4 shots of ammo, maybe a little higher dosage will help. Yeah, its rough on the ego. I’m not really blaming myself the logic behind that thought was ok. I’m early onset menopausal perhaps I’m not emitting the right pheromones myself in which case maybe getting some cops or something would help. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-oh-what-to-do-with-passive-men-electra-needs-her-groove-back/28040.md?page=2)