# What pheromones can and can't do: realistic expectations for newcomers **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 29, 2008, 4:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558 "2008-02-29T16:46:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 4:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/1 "2008-02-29T16:46:32Z")
A lot of people come in to the forum and read all the wonderful stories about peoples experiences with [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/). New people end up trying them out with high expectations and usually as they get to know the product those expectations are met to some extent and sometimes not because there expectations were to high But I think its best for people to have a realistic view on what exactly they can and can not do. I get a lot of PM’s from people asking me why "_they couldn’t get there cheating husband to respond to pheromones"_ or why _“the girl picked my best friend over me even though I have the pheromones on”._ The answer is simple, pheromones don’t change anything, they enhance whats already there. They make socialization easier. If there is attraction they can enhance that. If there is interest it can push that to attraction ect ect. Now don’t get me wrong, I love each and every PM I get and I try to answer everyone the best I can. But I always feel bad when people expect so much more then is possible with just pheromones. It also ticks me off a little when those high expectations cause them to give up on pheromones because they are missing out on what they can really do for them which is a lot. So, this is what… If your in a good relationship, pheromones **can** enhance that. They can arouse and bring about more intimacy. They can help to open up communications and add some excitement and fun. Yes they can even make sex more frequent and hot. If your in a bad relationship that is riddled with other serious problems or obstacles pheromones may arouse or comfort but they **cant** change that problem or the other persons feelings. Keep in mind, you may be able to arouse that person with pheromones but there was attraction there to begin with or they wouldn’t have been with you. Arousal will not change a persons mind even if they act on that arousal. … When out wearing pheromones in public, you will get reactions that range from subtle to the occasional strong hit. You will get more attention. But girls wont lose all inhibitions and begin stalking you or groping your leg. Men wont slay dragons or leave there spouse to claim you. The pheromones will just add ease ,comfort, interest and arousal. Along with this you need to take into consideration the other things that cause attraction. Visualization, compatibility, availability ect. Pheromones **can** make you more attractive but they **cant** change a persons tastes, Suppose a person prefers blond hair or tall people, pheromones wont change their preference and if that preference is strong enough they may ignore the feelings the pheromones cause them to feel. If the preference isn’t that strong it can give you a edge and a opportunity to win them over despite the preference. They **can** make you open up and talk but they **cant** make you compatible. If you have nothing to talk about or nothing in common all the Instant Openness or Instant Honesty in the world wont change that. **Can** pheromones make a shy person talk more??? **Yes** if the shy person has something to say to you and a desire to speak to you. They **can** arouse the hot girl/guy across the room but if they are together it **cant** make one of them available. People have morals (at least some do LOL) you may walk into the room looking hot as hell and smelling like a sex god/goddess but if someone has feelings for another person they wont act on that vibe your sending. **So what can they do for you???** They can attract, arouse, calm, uplift, cause comfort, cause interest, enhance and generally just make socialization a whole lot easier. They are one small part of attraction but they wont do all the work for you. I often get the question of why didn’t my pheromones work ??? Then I find out where they wore them to 😛 _Why didn’t my Turn Up The Heat or Copulin mix work in church ?_ Because people have self control. They are not going to hit on you sexually in church with the old ladies and priest looking on no matter how hot you look. _WHY doesnt my Instant Openness work in school ???_ Because talking in class is not smiled upon _I used my copulin or Androstenone mix at work with no response_ Work is not the place to be arousing people. There are sexual harassment laws at least here in the USA. People are careful including women of how they act at work or who they become involved with. They will mask there feelings strongly in this environment. Granted my work is a bit different but it was that way before any of us used pheromones. I _wore Instant Shine to a funeral and no one seemed to feel better._ WTF do you expect, LOL _I wore ammo and Instant Shine and my brothers GF was nicer but she still hates me._ pheromones cant change every ones feelings for you. Sure they can help her to be nicer perhaps but they cant make her like you. Environment makes a huge difference, We are humans and have been conditioned to react and act in a certain way in certain environments. **Being congruent and making the effort.** This is also important. Suppose you wear Instant Openness but you sit in the corner not looking very approachable. Or you have on AMMO and someone keeps making eye contact but you don’t smile or make any eye contact back. Your sending out mixed messages. On one hand people are getting a vibe that you are friendly and approachable. But your body language is sending another signal. When you see subtle cues from others , this is the time to make your move. The pheromones will give you a edge but they will not do it all for you. Pheromones help to give you more of a opportunity, a opening, but you need to make the effort. If your wearing Instant sexiness or ammo and someone makes eye contact with you… smile. Appear approachable. If your wearing Instant Openness and someone says something mundane… reply. Pheromones may effect people but it cant make them good at approaching you. They usually are just looking for a opening to speak to you. I wear pheromones just about everyday. I don’t get hit on everyday. Every single time I wear copulins my husband doesn’t respond. Sometimes he is tired or busy. I am exposed to other people who wear pheromones frequently. I do feel reactions but I don’t forget who I am, what I like and what I believe in. Think of your pheromones as just one more tool in your arsenal for self improvement. Like your hair gel, makeup, your push up bra and bowflex. Use them to enhance who you already are. Don’t just spray them on and sit and wait for your world to change I believe that every person (especially in this forum) has something wonderful and special about them. I believe pheromones are a fantastic tool to help us unleash all those inner qualities and help others take notice of them. Keep these things in mind when you use pheromones and especially when your new and getting ready to buy them for the first time. Don’t wait for your pheromones to work, Learn to work your pheromones 😃 OK, Lecture over class dismissed LOL . Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Kusro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f05b48/32.png) [@Kusro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kusro)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 6:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/2 "2008-02-29T18:25:17Z")
Well said Tish! 😃 Its very easy for new comers to have all these great expectations and be very dissappointed. ---
**Author:** ![LaurieNY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bbce88/32.png) [@LaurieNY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LaurieNY)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 7:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/3 "2008-02-29T19:10:43Z")
Tisha, you are a sweet, smart, wonderful woman and I love posts like this from you. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Karmiel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/karmiel/32/2234_2.png) [@Karmiel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Karmiel)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 7:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/4 "2008-02-29T19:18:56Z")
Great post, something every newbie should read. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 7:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/5 "2008-02-29T19:21:28Z")
Excellent post. Make it a sticky in both Men’s & Women’s sections. ---
**Author:** ![justonce](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justonce/32/1316_2.png) [@justonce](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justonce)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 9:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/6 "2008-02-29T21:13:50Z")
> [@](#): > > Excellent post. Make it a sticky in both Men’s & Women’s sections. I concur. justonce ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 10:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/7 "2008-02-29T22:10:33Z")
Yes a wonderful post! Even some of the experienced users (thinking of myself) could well go back to this one for a reality check. Maybe this post should be put into every parcel that Androtics sends out… ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 12:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/8 "2008-03-01T00:35:07Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > _ **But I think its best for people to have a realistic view on what exactly they can and can not do. I get alot of PM’s from people asking me why “they couldnt get there cheating husband to respond to pheromones” or why “the girl picked my best friend over me even though I have the pheromones on”.** _ > > _ **I often get the question of why didnt my pheromones work ???** _ > > _ **I wore ammo and Instant Shine and my brothers GF was nicer but she still hates me.** _ > > _ **Dont wait for your pheromones to work, Learn to work your pheromones** _ 😃 The best students make the best teachers. 😉 Understanding is knowledge. REPS! Bella ---
**Author:** ![phernoob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phernoob/32/180_2.png) [@phernoob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phernoob)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 1:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/9 "2008-03-01T01:53:23Z")
You are so right… After using it for over a month - I realize that MY attitude when wearing it is EVERYTHING. I would call the pheremones an Experience Enhancement". It does not change the experience, it just bumps up the volume. However, I strongly suggest that you try them all because what works for one person’s chemistry may not work for another. Also, you might want to track the difference between SELF effects and effects on others. It does really depend on your personal body chemistry. When you view this as a scientific experiment, and not something to exclusively attract the opposite sex, then you will see the benefits! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 12:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/10 "2008-03-01T12:45:02Z")
Thanks everyone for your kind words. I really do love using mones. I think they add so much excitement and color to my life. I want others to experience that as well. I think that sometimes its so hard to see the effects for some people because of expectations. Whats that saying… " They fail to see the forest for the trees " Thanks for all the reps 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 12:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/11 "2008-03-01T12:51:33Z")
This is so right on … it should be engraved in stone somewhere, more indelible than a sticky! ---
**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 4:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/12 "2008-03-01T16:35:14Z")
Sticky sticky sticky! This is great. I always feel like I need to preface advice to new people with this info. Such as “[pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) can’t work miracles…no magic bullet…won’t fix a messed up relationship…won’t change dude’s mind if he truly doesn’t fancy you…they just enhance what’s there…” This post really really does belong up there with all the other stuff about mixes etc. So I gave it a rating of 5 stars! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 7:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/13 "2008-03-01T19:42:01Z")
> [@](#): > > I always feel like I need to preface advice to new people with this info. Such as “pheromones can’t work miracles…no magic bullet…won’t fix a messed up relationship…won’t change dude’s mind if he truly doesn’t fancy you…they just enhance what’s there…” Thats exactly how I feel Kitten, and you said it in 3 sentences LOL I guess since I am the mod and I got the stars I will move it up to the sticky section. I feel kinda funny doing it though LOL Thanks again everyone 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 9:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/14 "2008-03-01T21:13:17Z")
I would like to caution newbies (if I may, as a relative newbie myself) that pheromones can also inadvertently _repel_ people. I’ve had this blatantly happen with a few people. It’s not that I think they suddenly started hating me, just that they are confused by the new “vibes” they are getting and they don’t conform to their previously held notions of how they feel about me. One guy hasn’t really come around from that yet and is still somewhat cold. Another adjusted after a week or so and is back to his old self. Just something to be cautious of, if an intended target falls into this group of people. ---
**Author:** ![discorose](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/discorose/32/882_2.png) [@discorose](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/discorose)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 9:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/15 "2008-03-01T21:16:17Z")
_ **Thank you Tisha again for your wonderful advice..I will definately keep that in mind as a newcomer about to try them..I always had it in my mind just to enhance what is already there,…** _ ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 11:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/16 "2008-03-01T23:29:09Z")
> [@ariadne](#): > > I would like to caution newbies (if I may, as a relative newbie myself) that pheromones can also inadvertently _repel_ people. I’ve had this blatantly happen with a few people. It’s not that I think they suddenly started hating me, just that they are confused by the new “vibes” they are getting and they don’t conform to their previously held notions of how they feel about me. One guy hasn’t really come around from that yet and is still somewhat cold. Another adjusted after a week or so and is back to his old self. > > Just something to be cautious of, if an intended target falls into this group of people. Oh yes great point ariadne , Reps 😛 I forgot to mention this part. People who know you well know your natural mone signature. As we age and change our natural mone sigs change as well but those close to us have time to slowly adjust to this because it happens slowly. Then you apply mones and in a instant they start to feel feelings they are not accustomed to feeling. They can become a bit confused because they dont realize the mones are doing it. Something is different and they cant place it. For myself… It took about a week of use with certain products for me to see a reaction from my husband. At first I thought maybe they need to mesh with my own signature but I think that is just part of it. My husband needed time to adjust to the vibe I was giving off. The first few days I wore some of my mones he did not respond at all. Then he began to look at me like I had a boob growing out my forehead for a few days. Slowly he began to ask questions. Is that a new blouse ?? Did you cut your hair ??? ect ect… Finally after about a week or so he began to grow comfortable and react. I have never had a reaction where I repelled anyone except when I use pheroboy around my female supervisor, I noticed she wont say boo to me on those days LOL This dosnt mean that it cant happen, other women have reported people close to them acting odd. Most times there is just a period of adjustment. Its just another reason to start out slow with 1 spray and work up over time espeically if you married or involved with someone. I know we all want to spray them all on and get to the fun stuff fast but for those that you know its better to ease them into it unless of course they know your wearing mones which is different. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![RAISIN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b19c9b/32.png) [@RAISIN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RAISIN)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 6:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/17 "2008-03-02T06:16:08Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Alot of people come in to the forum and read all the wonderful stories about peoples experiences with pheromone products. New people end up trying them out with high expectations and usually as they get to know the product those expectations are met to some extent and sometimes not because there expectations were to high > > . But I think its best for people to have a realistic view on what exactly they can and can not do. I get alot of PM’s from people asking me why "_they couldnt get there cheating husband to respond to pheromones"_ or why _“the girl picked my best friend over me even though I have the pheromones on”._ > > The anwser is simple, pheromones dont change anything, they enhance whats already there. They make socialization easier. If there is attraction they can enhance that. If there is interest it can push that to attraction ect ect. > > Now dont get me wrong, I love each and every PM I get and I try to anwser everyone the best I can. But I always feel bad when people expect so much more then is possible with just pheromones. It also ticks me off a little when those high expectations cause them to give up on pheromones because they are missing out on what they can really do for them which is alot. > > So, this is what… > > If your in a good relationship, pheromones **can** enhance that. They can arouse and bring about more intimacy. They can help to open up communications and add some excitement and fun. Yes they can even make sex more frequant and hot. > > If your in a bad relationship that is riddled with other serious problems or obsticals pheromones may arouse or comfort but they **cant** change that problem or the other persons feelings. Keep in mind, you may be able to arouse that person with pheromones but there was attraction there to begin with or they wouldnt have been with you. Arousal will not change a persons mind even if they act on that arousal. > > … > > When out wearing pheromones in public, you will get reactions that range from subtle to the occasional strong hit. You will get more attention. But girls wont lose all inhibitions and begin stalking you or groping your leg. Men wont slay dragons or leave there spouse to claim you. The pheromones will just add ease ,comfort, interest and arousal. Along with this you need to take into consideration the other things that cause attaction. Visualization, compatibility, availability ect. > > pheromones **can** make you more attractive but they **cant** change a persons tastes, Suppose a person prefers blond hair or tall people, pheromones wont change their preference and if that preference is strong enough they may ignore the feelings the pheromones cause them to feel. If the preference isnt that strong it can give you a edge and a opportunity to win them over despite the preference. > > They **can** make you open up and talk but they **cant** make you compatible. > If you have nothing to talk about or nothing in comman all the Instant Openness or Instant Honesty in the world wont change that. **Can** pheromones make a shy person talk more??? **Yes** if the shy person has something to say to you and a desire to speak to you. > > They **can** arouse the hot girl/guy across the room but if they are together it **cant** make one of them available. People have morals (at least some do LOL) you may walk into the room looking hot as hell and smelling like a sex god/goddess but if someone has feelings for another person they wont act on that vibe your sending. > > I often get the question of why didnt my pheromones work ??? Then I find out where they wore them to 😛 > > _Why didnt my Turn Up The Heat or Copulin mix work in church ?_ Because people have self control. They are not going to hit on you sexually in church with the old ladies and priest looking on no matter how hot you look. > > _WHY dosnt my Instant Openness work in school ???_ > Because talking in class is not smiled upon > > _I used my copulin or Androstenone mix at work with no response_ > Work is not the place to be arousing people. There are sexual harrasment laws at least here in the USA. People are careful including women of how they act at work or who they become involved with. They will mask there feelings strongly in this enviroment. Granted my work is a bit different but it was that way before any of us used pheromones. > > I _wore Instant Shine to a funeral and no one seemed to feel better._ > WTF do you expect, LOL > > _I wore ammo and Instant Shine and my brothers GF was nicer but she still hates me._ > Mones cant change everyones feelings for you. Sure they can help her to be nicer prehaps but they cant make her like you. > > Enviroment makes a huge difference, We are humans and have been conditioned to react and act in a certain way in certain enviroments. > > I wear pheromones just about everyday. I dont get hit on everyday. Every single time I wear copulins my husband dosnt respond. Sometimes he is tired or busy. > > I am exposed to other people who wear pheromones frequantly. I do feel reactions but I dont forget who I am, what I like and what I believe in. > > Think of your pheromones as just one more tool in your arsenal for self improvement. Like your hair gel, makeup, your push up bra and bowflex. Use them to enhance who you already are. Dont just spray the on a sit and wait for your world to change > > I believe that every person (especially in this forum) has something wonderful and special about them. I believe pheromones are a fantastic tool to help us unleash all those inner qualities and help others take notice of them. > > Keep these things in mind when you use pheromones and especially when your new and getting ready to buy them for the first time. > > Dont wait for your pheromones to work, Learn to work your pheromones 😃 > > OK, Lecture over class dismissed LOL . > > Tisha TISHA, THANKS ALOT. THIS REALLY HELPS. ---
**Author:** ![jumbolaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@jumbolaya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jumbolaya)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 11:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/18 "2008-03-02T23:37:24Z")
GREAT post. And equally great responses. ---
**Author:** ![discorose](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/discorose/32/882_2.png) [@discorose](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/discorose)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2008, 2:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/19 "2008-03-03T02:57:00Z")
how do you know if you are a type a or type b ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2008, 3:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/20 "2008-03-03T03:04:25Z")
Unfortunately, you probably wont know for sure until you try both IS/A and IS/B . But usually one will fit your personality better. This is not to say that A wont oerk for you if your a B personality or vice versa. I am trying to talk steveO into having B in a to-go bottle or coming out with a kit with both A and B in it. He said right now they are behind on new projects but as soon as those are cleared up he will consider it. Tisha [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558.md?page=2)