# What pheromones can and can't do: realistic expectations for newcomers **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 29, 2008, 4:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558 "2008-02-29T16:46:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Lioness77](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lioness77/32/462_2.png) [@Lioness77](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lioness77)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2009, 3:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/61 "2009-03-15T15:21:49Z")
Tish I always love how you explain everything. Good post, is very helpful, i used it as a reminder of what pheros can do and can’t. Because sometimes i forget and i feel dissapointed. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![SomeRedHeadChick](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/someredheadchick/32/1902_2.png) [@SomeRedHeadChick](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SomeRedHeadChick)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2009, 7:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/62 "2009-03-15T19:53:47Z")
Oh Tisha lol I was using my question “would you really…” just to make a point - I didn’t expect an answer but awesome you gave me one. 🙂 I have a habit of asking questions I never expect answered. I guess I just ask them to make the person think. To add to the getting hit on and I’m 30, living in an army town where there are lots of rotating deployments. One unit leaves & the other comes home in months of each other - they are rarely here at the same time. I get hit on more here than I ever did anywhere else. Do I think the central Texas air carries my pheromones in waves? lol no (see I did it again Tisha! lol) But I don’t think that’s anything but sexual frustration by aggressive young men that just spent over a year or year & half with nothing but other young men like them. The only women they have contact with are female soldiers and limited female civilians. The female soldiers have to portray a masculine image by nature while there (though hanky panky still goes on lol) and the civilian women are covered head to toe. They come home and suddenly this mildly attractive redhead, with groomed hair is in the frozen food asile, in a dress and you can see her knee caps! LOL Now add she’s wearing instant sexyness A pheremones. That’s the reason i’ve chosen to stay away from using instant sexyness A anywhere around here. On occassion - I am honestly flattered by some hit ons; but It’s simply for my real ego lol like ya said. LOL My surroundings and enviroment are a little different I think than your average woman. I said all that LOOOOOONNNGGGG stuff to say this, I think all the things you’ve said are so true! I also think your enviroment, the situations of those around you, also plays a big part in the effect of your pheremones. ---
**Author:** ![kimberly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kimberly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kimberly)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2009, 1:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/63 "2009-05-16T01:51:01Z")
Thanks for posting this info. It is very important for people to understand that pheromones or anything else that we use to enhance ourselves are not a pancea. Our own personality and individual styles and tastes also effect the decisions that we and others make. Additionally, we must remember that things like personal hygeine, grooming techniques, clothing and make up choices, our attitude, etc. also play a major role in how we are perceived and accepted (or rejected) by others. Pheromones are just one peice of the puzzle. They can do all the things you stated and maybe even more, but they are not a silver bullet or arrow shot from cupid’s bow that can make someone fall instantly in love with you. When I first tried pheromones, I put them on and literally forgot about them until I began to get attention, which was a pleasant suprise. I was relaxed and I didn’t use them with too much expectations (truth be told, I was a bit skeptical). I view them as any other accessory like a piece of jewelry or a nice outfit that may generate some nice responses. I am certainly grateful for the work that they do, but I also know that I have the responsibility to follow through. ---
**Author:** ![Cruzinkiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Cruzinkiwi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cruzinkiwi)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 5:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/64 "2009-09-17T17:03:38Z")
I am totally a newbie and havn’t ordered them yet. But I am extremely interested in it. Proud to say I don’t have expectations THAT high lol. It’s meant for my husband, And we have a very loving close relationship. I was just hoping to make it even closer. Sounds like this stuff might be neat to play with lol ---
**Author:** ![luckylucie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/858c86/32.png) [@luckylucie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/luckylucie)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 10:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/65 "2009-09-17T22:33:25Z")
great, great “lecture”. What you state is so true. Pheros are not some kind of magic potion and should not be expected to be such. Like you said, it basically enhances what is already there. Two thumbs up! ---
**Author:** ![oracle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/c57346/32.png) [@oracle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/oracle)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 4:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/66 "2009-10-17T04:28:27Z")
Excellent post. You see subtle and not so subtle distinctions, and give them their proper weight. You are highly intelligent and very well spoken. ---
**Author:** ![Isalee714](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47774/32.png) [@Isalee714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Isalee714)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 3:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/67 "2009-12-10T03:26:34Z")
:pWhew! I am so glad you have answered some of my questions. I didn’t want to use mones like some sort of witchcraft or something but I do want to bring out the best that is in me. Sometimes if people just start having conversation with you, they may realize there is more to you that what they thought. I am very interested in a guy my junior but he has never really sat and talked with me. I really fun and pretty cool for my age. Being a musician, I can fit in, you know. But because of some other reasons, I prefer not to be the vixen, just the “gosh it’s just something about her.” Thanks again. Isalee714 🙄 > [@tisha23](#): > > A lot of people come in to the forum and read all the wonderful stories about peoples experiences with pheromone products. New people end up trying them out with high expectations and usually as they get to know the product those expectations are met to some extent and sometimes not because there expectations were to high > > . But I think its best for people to have a realistic view on what exactly they can and can not do. I get a lot of PM’s from people asking me why "_they couldn’t get there cheating husband to respond to pheromones"_ or why _“the girl picked my best friend over me even though I have the pheromones on”._ > > The answer is simple, pheromones don’t change anything, they enhance whats already there. They make socialization easier. If there is attraction they can enhance that. If there is interest it can push that to attraction ect ect. > > Now don’t get me wrong, I love each and every PM I get and I try to answer everyone the best I can. But I always feel bad when people expect so much more then is possible with just pheromones. It also ticks me off a little when those high expectations cause them to give up on pheromones because they are missing out on what they can really do for them which is a lot. > > So, this is what… > > If your in a good relationship, pheromones **can** enhance that. They can arouse and bring about more intimacy. They can help to open up communications and add some excitement and fun. Yes they can even make sex more frequent and hot. > > If your in a bad relationship that is riddled with other serious problems or obstacles pheromones may arouse or comfort but they **cant** change that problem or the other persons feelings. Keep in mind, you may be able to arouse that person with pheromones but there was attraction there to begin with or they wouldn’t have been with you. Arousal will not change a persons mind even if they act on that arousal. > > … > > When out wearing pheromones in public, you will get reactions that range from subtle to the occasional strong hit. You will get more attention. But girls wont lose all inhibitions and begin stalking you or groping your leg. Men wont slay dragons or leave there spouse to claim you. The pheromones will just add ease ,comfort, interest and arousal. Along with this you need to take into consideration the other things that cause attraction. Visualization, compatibility, availability ect. > > pheromones **can** make you more attractive but they **cant** change a persons tastes, Suppose a person prefers blond hair or tall people, pheromones wont change their preference and if that preference is strong enough they may ignore the feelings the pheromones cause them to feel. If the preference isn’t that strong it can give you a edge and a opportunity to win them over despite the preference. > > They **can** make you open up and talk but they **cant** make you compatible. > If you have nothing to talk about or nothing in common all the Instant Openness or Instant Honesty in the world wont change that. **Can** pheromones make a shy person talk more??? **Yes** if the shy person has something to say to you and a desire to speak to you. > > They **can** arouse the hot girl/guy across the room but if they are together it **cant** make one of them available. People have morals (at least some do LOL) you may walk into the room looking hot as hell and smelling like a sex god/goddess but if someone has feelings for another person they wont act on that vibe your sending. > > **So what can they do for you???** They can attract, arouse, calm, uplift, cause comfort, cause interest, enhance and generally just make socialization a whole lot easier. They are one small part of attraction but they wont do all the work for you. > > I often get the question of why didn’t my pheromones work ??? Then I find out where they wore them to 😛 > > _Why didn’t my Turn Up The Heat or Copulin mix work in church ?_ Because people have self control. They are not going to hit on you sexually in church with the old ladies and priest looking on no matter how hot you look. > > _WHY doesnt my Instant Openness work in school ???_ > Because talking in class is not smiled upon > > _I used my copulin or Androstenone mix at work with no response_ > Work is not the place to be arousing people. There are sexual harassment laws at least here in the USA. People are careful including women of how they act at work or who they become involved with. They will mask there feelings strongly in this environment. Granted my work is a bit different but it was that way before any of us used pheromones. > > I _wore Instant Shine to a funeral and no one seemed to feel better._ > WTF do you expect, LOL > > _I wore ammo and Instant Shine and my brothers GF was nicer but she still hates me._ > pheromones cant change every ones feelings for you. Sure they can help her to be nicer perhaps but they cant make her like you. > > Environment makes a huge difference, We are humans and have been conditioned to react and act in a certain way in certain environments. > > **Being congruent and making the effort.** > > This is also important. Suppose you wear Instant Openness but you sit in the corner not looking very approachable. Or you have on AMMO and someone keeps making eye contact but you don’t smile or make any eye contact back. Your sending out mixed messages. On one hand people are getting a vibe that you are friendly and approachable. But your body language is sending another signal. > > When you see subtle cues from others , this is the time to make your move. The pheromones will give you a edge but they will not do it all for you. pheromones help to give you more of a opportunity a opening but you need to make the effort. If your wearing Instant sexiness or ammo and someone makes eye contact with you smile. Appear approachable. If your wearing Instant Openness and someone says something mundane reply. pheromones may effect people but it cant make them good at approaching you. They usually are just looking for a opening to speak to you. > > I wear pheromones just about everyday. I don’t get hit on everyday. Every single time I wear copulins my husband doesn’t respond. Sometimes he is tired or busy. > > I am exposed to other people who wear pheromones frequently. I do feel reactions but I don’t forget who I am, what I like and what I believe in. > > Think of your pheromones as just one more tool in your arsenal for self improvement. Like your hair gel, makeup, your push up bra and bowflex. Use them to enhance who you already are. Don’t just spray them on and sit and wait for your world to change > > I believe that every person (especially in this forum) has something wonderful and special about them. I believe pheromones are a fantastic tool to help us unleash all those inner qualities and help others take notice of them. > > Keep these things in mind when you use pheromones and especially when your new and getting ready to buy them for the first time. > > Don’t wait for your pheromones to work, Learn to work your pheromones 😃 > > OK, Lecture over class dismissed LOL . > > Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Beyonce](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecd19e/32.png) [@Beyonce](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Beyonce)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 11:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/68 "2009-12-10T23:06:50Z")
thank you for that introduction to pheromones! ---
**Author:** ![Isalee714](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47774/32.png) [@Isalee714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Isalee714)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 2:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/69 "2009-12-11T02:45:01Z")
:pWell I got my mones in the mail yesterday and I’ve had a toothache for a couple of days and haven’t been out. But I sprayed a little of the “[Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)” on me and boy if I were a cusser I would say that stuff smells so d… good. I sniffed myself alnight. Can’t wait to go out tomorrow and see the reactions of my coworkers. If nothing else they gotta love the smell. I need a whole gallon so I don’t run out, lol.😃 ---
**Author:** ![vpahoua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ee7513/32.png) [@vpahoua](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vpahoua)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 5:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/70 "2010-11-02T17:46:07Z")
Great info. Definitely a help for newbies like myself. I wouldn’t even know where to go when or if I put any of them pheromones on. Its basically just to open up more to socialize and break the barrier but otherwise attract attention toward you. It would be a great experience to fall into a situation as people hitting on you while you’re on a date 😮 ---
**Author:** ![Cookie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d26b3c/32.png) [@Cookie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cookie)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 10:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/71 "2011-01-29T22:27:53Z")
Hi Tisha I really liked reading this post.it puts things into perspective. The funeral part was particularly funny. Thank you for being so helpful to me ever since I joined ---
**Author:** ![Sylph91](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@Sylph91](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sylph91)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 9:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/72 "2011-02-14T09:12:49Z")
I’m new (brand new here) thanks for the info. Awesome. Now I’d like to know who’s had success with what and where I should start? Help, please. ---
**Author:** ![Comrade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2bfe46/32.png) [@Comrade](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Comrade)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 11:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/73 "2011-03-09T23:24:41Z")
A coment from a user of A-314. Most of the time I get no obvious reaction when using A-314. But, once in a while(I guess several factors come together)I get a VERY blatant response. I was making a delivery the other day to a bank.The woman I usually deal with was there. Now, she is normally very straight, and businesslike. But on this day she started “falling all over herself”, talking about how I’m such an expert on everything, why don’t I just give her advice! So she starts asking me questions on what I think. Sounds like a pretty obvious A-314 response. It was like she switched into an “autopilot” mode. So I think it’s what everyone says. If other factors come together, then the products can push things over the edge. ---
**Author:** ![MusikAddikt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/musikaddikt/32/1576_2.png) [@MusikAddikt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MusikAddikt)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2012, 11:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/74 "2012-02-07T23:23:50Z")
Why is this only in the women’s section?! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![okiemusk1985](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f08c70/32.png) [@okiemusk1985](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/okiemusk1985)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 5:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/75 "2012-02-17T17:37:49Z")
I am a newbie to all this stuff and really liked reading what you put on here. It was really informative. ---
**Author:** ![BoredomJunkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e68b1a/32.png) [@BoredomJunkie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BoredomJunkie)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2012, 12:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/76 "2012-08-28T12:08:52Z")
> [@](#): > > I _wore Instant Shine to a funeral and no one seemed to feel better._ > WTF do you expect, LOL I almost burst out laughing while reading this on my phone at work. That could have been trouble. LOL I’m really glad I found this thread. What to expect from pheromones and what they’ll do have been the top 2 questions on my mind since I started reading about them. ---
**Author:** ![NeithSpell](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/neithspell/32/2264_2.png) [@NeithSpell](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NeithSpell)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 12:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/77 "2013-03-17T00:30:10Z")
Magick… not miracles! ---
**Author:** ![XyzN](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xyzn/32/2416_2.png) [@XyzN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XyzN)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 7:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/78 "2013-06-19T19:42:09Z")
This was both very enlightening and fun to read at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![Jaolori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc348/32.png) [@Jaolori](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jaolori)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2013, 9:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/79 "2013-08-23T21:29:04Z")
Thank you for writing this! I really enjoyed the examples, like the Church Circumstance… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MagnaMarta](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/magnamarta/32/573_2.png) [@MagnaMarta](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MagnaMarta)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2013, 4:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558/80 "2013-10-19T04:52:35Z")
This is an awesome read for a newbie to pheromones like myself. I have an energy that can draw people to me, but it’s not always there and it’s not always strong. I am not the prettiest lady but I have a great personality, warmth and openness. I bought [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) to give me extra confidence when I feel it’s lagging and to get these chilly Canadians to lighten up when I chat nice to them “hey How are you, nice to meet ya” sorta thing. I am syked to try! [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558.md?page=3) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-and-cant-do-realistic-expectations-for-newcomers/9558.md?page=5)