# What pheromones do WAGG contain?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-do-wagg-contain/3651>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [May 13, 2007, 10:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-do-wagg-contain/3651 "2007-05-13T22:26:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Oceanborn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/oceanborn/32/1229_2.png) [@Oceanborn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Oceanborn)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2007, 10:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-do-wagg-contain/3651/1 "2007-05-13T22:26:07Z")

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Has anyone figured out what [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) does WAGG (What A Great Guy) contain?

From it’s description about buffering the negative effects of Androstenone… sounds like a Androsterone product.

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2007, 11:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-do-wagg-contain/3651/2 "2007-05-13T23:53:10Z")

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I have a bottle and it smells heavily of androstenol. There are other mones but I can’t sniff 'em out and LS ain’t telling. I find the musky scent of androstenol unpleasant–prefer the nasy funk of both androstenone and androsterone any day of the week. WAGG needs cover…

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 8:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-do-wagg-contain/3651/3 "2007-05-14T08:22:31Z")

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I like WAGG quite a bit and have years of experience with the product. Definitely no Androsterone or Androstenol (Alpha or Beta) in there, just ‘secret’ components. I don’t think even Androtics, with all their putatives and test molecules, has the pheromone(s) that make up WAGG.

Main thing I like about WAGG is that it opens up channels of communication for me, makes me less intimidating and far more approachable. Also there is a politeness in the way I and people act around it which is nice. It isn’t really a product that helps in making women (or men) excited around you or whatever though unlike many of the other pheromones. It is easy to make a ton of acquaintances of WAGG, but for example the Nols are better at making friends. **But if you do have the lone wolf/clint eastwood effect going then from my experience so far, nothing works as well as WAGG at counterring that and making people comfortable in your presence.** Balance is the key though - if you combine 2 drops WAGG and Alpha-Nol for example, then you better have 2 drops+ A314 or Androstenone on or otherwise people will toss you around like a rag doll 😃 (as in guaranteed reduced respect).

Visionary

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 2:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-do-wagg-contain/3651/4 "2007-05-14T14:38:04Z")

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WAGG is definitely a product that seems to soften a person’s image…for better or for worse. It has actually elicited some condescension in people in my case…this is easily tempered with something more aggressive, but it became pointless for me to ever use it, as there were no real beneficial effects for me…only negative ones that I needed to mitigate with other mones. I think the condescension came with mixes that incorporated a lot of androstadienone…its been a while since I’ve used it.

I agree WAGG doesn’t seem like an androstenol type product…it may have a bit of dienone in there…estratetreanol maybe? Whatever the case is I ended up trading the bottle with Michael for an Androtics gift card about a year back.

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2007, 6:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-do-wagg-contain/3651/5 "2007-05-14T18:09:57Z")

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Well so much for my wild guess. Whatever’s in there sure is stinky in a sorta musky -Androstenol like funk. I didn’t use it much as my expereince was very similar to Sigma–nearly identical. It was one of my least successful purchases. I actually have a partially used and full bottle of the funky juice…

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**Author:** ![Futurist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@Futurist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Futurist)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 12:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-do-wagg-contain/3651/6 "2007-05-15T00:40:23Z")

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WAGG-N seems like a really decent product.

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 8:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-do-wagg-contain/3651/7 "2007-05-15T08:40:42Z")

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I ment to say that WAGG helps me make lots of ‘friendly acquaintances’ not just ‘acquaintances’. The Nols are definitely far better at making ‘friends’ and Alpha-Nol has that ‘social excitement’ effect but WAGG is better at opening lines of communication with more people for me.

Obviously WAGG isn’t for everyone as you can see from the experiences of Sigma and Gegogi.

On the other hand, I know that the following good posters have WAGG as their favorite almost:

- xvs from LS (he says he wears it alone and it does a great job of lessening intimidation and helps him with the ladies)
- Frenchie from LS (a French lady in her 40s who used to post on LS in 2003 from memory - she was lesbian and it helped her - check out her posts in 2003 when she was combining it with NPA/w)
- itwow from here and LS (again from memory it helped him a lot with his Lone Wolf Problem and social interactions)

On a side note, I was actually disappointed when KZI came out with Alpha7 after they had such an innovative new ingredient in WAGG. I mean 5:1 Androstenone:Androsterone in a product isn’t exactly innovative but hey sex sells and None=the closest thing to sex in pheromones.😃

Visionary

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 4:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-do-wagg-contain/3651/8 "2007-05-15T16:13:27Z")

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> [@](#):
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> On a side note, I was actually disappointed when KZI came out with Alpha7 after they had such an innovative new ingredient in WAGG. I mean 5:1 Androstenone:Androsterone in a product isn’t exactly innovative but hey sex sells and None=the closest thing to sex in pheromones.😃

Agreed I was expecting…am STILL expecting them to come out with something more exciting than Alpha 7. One thing I can say about KZI is the quality of the pheromones they use are top-notch. Even if WAGG wasn’t for me, I can certainly see the benefit it may have for others. Very consistent results. I had great results with the none:rone test packs they had us try back in the day. Simple, yet effective. KZI and Lacroy are the two manufacturers that LS offers that I really like.

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**Author:** ![LifeT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@LifeT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LifeT)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 5:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-do-wagg-contain/3651/9 "2007-05-15T17:41:20Z")

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> [@sigma](#):
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> Simple, yet effective. KZI and Lacroy are the two manufacturers that LS offers that I really like.

yup, lacroy is quite decent. but they seemed to have screwed up with Impi big time, does not work anywhere near as effective as the Edge or NPA. maybe it doesn’t have that secret ingredient…😕

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2007, 6:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-do-wagg-contain/3651/10 "2007-05-15T18:28:18Z")

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IMPI didn’t tickle ma pickle either. TE worked much better for me. I have a half used bottle of IMPI too…

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 8:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-do-wagg-contain/3651/11 "2007-05-16T08:05:25Z")

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Yea KZI (for WAGG) and Lacroy especially are the next best manufacturers in my opinion (I mean Androtics is amazing of course and No. 1 for sure 🙂 with all their product offerings, putatives, quality, consistent dosing, helpfulness, knowledge, etc.).  
I never tried Impi but NPA definitely works like nothing else (although I only use it very carefully in small amounts now).

Interestingly, LaCroy has developed new Gay male and Lesbian formulas (see below for the blurb from their website). These aren’t available anywhere other than direct from their site as far as I know. Hmmm LaCroy seems to specialise in ‘sexual’ products so this could still be interesting even for heteros…

[M2M / F2F](http://www.lacroy.com/m2m-f2f.html)  
LaCroy Chemicals has developed exclusively for the gay male and lesbian community, new formulas for same-sex attraction  
For too long the **alternative lifestyle** market **has been ignored**.  
_ **Who we want to be, and proud of whom we are.** _

- Are you looking for some **sensual excitement**?

- Be mysteriously **irresistible!!!**

- You can now create a **magnetic aura** …  
Due to the power of pheromones **some people** seem to **have more** chemical attraction than others and generally exude more confidence….  
The **Man 2 man** and **woman 2 woman** appeal is **100% pure [Human Pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/)**. Designed to be **used with any fragrance** you might prefer.  
**Now** , you can have **your personal “signature”**

- Man 2 man Concentrate - \*_R174.99 (5ml) **or** R289.99 (10ml) \*\*  
 ]Woman 2 woman concentrate - **R174.99 (5ml)** or_ R289.99 (10ml) \*\*

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 8:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-do-wagg-contain/3651/12 "2007-05-16T08:51:12Z")

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NPA is still among my fav tried 'n true. I can always count on it. Hmm, I wonder what’s in those new products. Might be fun to give it a go and see what happens.

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**Author:** ![LifeT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@LifeT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LifeT)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 11:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-do-wagg-contain/3651/13 "2007-05-16T11:04:57Z")

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> [@Socrates](#):
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> Due to the power of pheromones **some people** seem to **have more** chemical attraction than others and generally exude more confidence….  
> The **Man 2 man** and **woman 2 woman** appeal is **100% pure Human Pheromones**. Designed to be **used with any fragrance** you might prefer.  
> **Now** , you can have **your personal “signature”**
> 
> - Man 2 man Concentrate - **R174.99 (5ml)** or **R289.99 (10ml)**
> - Woman 2 woman concentrate - \*\*R174.99 (5ml) **or** R289.99 (10ml) \*\*

isn’t this perfect for that guy who’s trying to get his ex-bi-les-gf back lol?😃

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**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 2:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-do-wagg-contain/3651/14 "2007-05-16T14:09:37Z")

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> [@Socrates](#):
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> Yea KZI (for WAGG) and Lacroy especially are the next best manufacturers in my opinion (I mean Androtics is amazing of course and No. 1 for sure 🙂 with all their product offerings, putatives, quality, consistent dosing, helpfulness, knowledge, etc.).  
> I never tried Impi but NPA definitely works like nothing else (although I only use it very carefully in small amounts now).
> 
> Interestingly, LaCroy has developed new Gay male and Lesbian formulas (see below for the blurb from their website). These aren’t available anywhere other than direct from their site as far as I know. Hmmm LaCroy seems to specialise in ‘sexual’ products so this could still be interesting even for heteros…
> 
> [M2M / F2F](http://www.lacroy.com/m2m-f2f.html)  
> LaCroy Chemicals has developed exclusively for the gay male and lesbian community, new formulas for same-sex attraction  
> For too long the **alternative lifestyle** market **has been ignored**.  
> _ **Who we want to be, and proud of whom we are.** _
> 
> - Are you looking for some **sensual excitement**?
> 
> - Be mysteriously **irresistible!!!**
> 
> - You can now create a **magnetic aura** …  
> Due to the power of pheromones **some people** seem to **have more** chemical attraction than others and generally exude more confidence….  
> The **Man 2 man** and **woman 2 woman** appeal is **100% pure Human Pheromones**. Designed to be **used with any fragrance** you might prefer.  
> **Now** , you can have **your personal “signature”**
> 
> - Man 2 man Concentrate - \*\*R174.99 (5ml) **or** R289.99 (10ml)  
> **- Woman 2 woman concentrate -** R174.99 (5ml) **or** R289.99 (10ml) \*\*

Okay, so who wants to be the first to try using the lesb formula to meet bi girls 😉

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 4:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-do-wagg-contain/3651/15 "2007-05-16T16:22:13Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> Yea KZI (for WAGG) and Lacroy especially are the next best manufacturers in my opinion (I mean Androtics is amazing of course and No. 1 for sure 🙂 with all their product offerings, putatives, quality, consistent dosing, helpfulness, knowledge, etc.).  
> I never tried Impi but NPA definitely works like nothing else (although I only use it very carefully in small amounts now).
> 
> Interestingly, LaCroy has developed new Gay male and Lesbian formulas (see below for the blurb from their website). These aren’t available anywhere other than direct from their site as far as I know. Hmmm LaCroy seems to specialise in ‘sexual’ products so this could still be interesting even for heteros…
> 
> [M2M / F2F](http://www.lacroy.com/m2m-f2f.html)  
> LaCroy Chemicals has developed exclusively for the gay male and lesbian community, new formulas for same-sex attraction  
> For too long the **alternative lifestyle** market **has been ignored**.  
> _ **Who we want to be, and proud of whom we are.** _
> 
> - Are you looking for some **sensual excitement**?
> 
> - Be mysteriously **irresistible!!!**
> 
> - You can now create a **magnetic aura**?€?  
> Due to the power of pheromones **some people** seem to **have more** chemical attraction than others and generally exude more confidence?€?.  
> The **Man 2 man** and **woman 2 woman** appeal is **100% pure Human Pheromones**. Designed to be **used with any fragrance** you might prefer.  
> **Now** , you can have **your personal ?€œsignature?€?**
> 
> - Man 2 man Concentrate - \*\*R174.99 (5ml) **or** R289.99 (10ml)  
> **- Woman 2 woman concentrate -** R174.99 (5ml) **or** R289.99 (10ml) \*\*

Talk about expensive…any idea of the actual phero content?

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**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 4:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-do-wagg-contain/3651/16 "2007-05-16T16:34:53Z")

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> [@sigma](#):
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> Talk about expensive…any idea of the actual phero content?

1 us dollar = about 7 s.african rand.  
[Bloomberg.com: World Currencies](http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/currencies/eurafr_currencies.html)

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2007, 5:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-do-wagg-contain/3651/17 "2007-05-16T17:00:19Z")

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> [@PheroQuirk](#):
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> 1 us dollar = about 7 s.african rand.  
> [Bloomberg.com: World Currencies](http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/currencies/eurafr_currencies.html)

oOOooO ok I thought the currencies were in dollars.
