# What pheromones works? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 18, 2007, 3:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-works/4184 "2007-06-18T03:50:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![WiZ83](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d07c76/32.png) [@WiZ83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WiZ83)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2007, 7:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-works/4184/21 "2007-06-20T07:41:55Z")
I’m a Malaysian born Chinese. I came to the United State to study 6 years ago, graduated 2 years ago, and got my job here. Back when I was in Malaysia, I didn’t have problems scoring, without the help of Pheromones. But since I got here to the USA, I haven’t got a girlfriend that isn’t Malaysian, except for a One-Night-Stand during one of the Home Coming Weekends during my Freshman Year. That’s why I might need some Pheromone to help out. And trust me, Malaysian Chinese culture is different, girls tend to fall for guys who are brave enough to tell them “I LOVE YOU”, but don’t force yourself into bringing it up too fast, you won’t need 6 months like someone mentioned above, but I’d say you can go 2-4 weeks, and pop that magic word, but make sure you’re confident she has feelings for you, or it’d turn out to be a disaster, having her avoid you 24/7. Back in Malaysia, I always travel back every Summer for vacation, and I usually find a decent girlfriend every summer, and talking usually does the trick for me. I’m kind of new to Pheromones, so I don’t know how it affects Malaysians. Anyway I’m going back 22nd July, and I will be having a couple bottles of Pheromones, as I’m going to place an order real soon, including A314, IS, IH, Chikara, NPA, and a few other stuffs, will experiment around, and keep all you guys updated on how it turns out. Not to mention that I’ve actually ordered Pherlure 3 weeks ago, and don’t know if it’s actually working. Anyway, the girls I usually pick up aren’t those from bars, or whatsoever. I usually hang out with my friends, at Starbucks/CoffeBean, around the Golden Triangle area, Imbi/Bukit Bintang/Sultan Ismail area, and Hartamas mamak and so on. I usually go out with 4-5 guys, and just talk to random girls sitting by other tables, and slowly exchange telephone numbers to SMS and phone calls. But I find it easier to score with chicks, when I gave them my business card, with my USA telephone number and business address, as I have the feeling that they think I’m reliable in terms of career, etc, and my proficiency in English does help me a lot, as I usually speak English on the first encounter with unknown females. Some are my primary school and highschool classmates, introducing their new female friends, and things get pretty easy too. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2007, 9:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-works/4184/22 "2007-06-21T21:21:05Z")
> [@omicronau](#): > > DONT YOU EVEN DARE SAY " I LOVE YOU" till AT LEAST 6 months later.. trust me mate, u dont wanna go down that track just yet… > > Maker her earn it…or at least test out the relationship first before you say those words..they are words that should be used sparingly till much much later on… 100% true. Otherwise those words are just empty, and you shouldn’t want that. ---
**Author:** ![monashguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@monashguy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monashguy)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2007, 1:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-works/4184/23 "2007-06-24T01:03:12Z")
> [@Eslite119](#): > > Well she definately doesn’t hate you, but not sure if she likes you in the way you do with her. I’m Southeast Asian btw and yes, girls from those countries are generally shy and normally would not make the first move. Some of the signs she has shown might not be IOI (ex. asking others how you’re doing after you left, I got that from my other former female co-workers and I don’t think there was any attraction in between). > > I’d recommend using Instant Openness in your case since you both are shy, Instant Shine, and possibly Instant Female Magic. I think increasing the amount of conversation (Instant Openness) is more important at first for your case than increasing the quality of the conversation (Instant Honesty). Get her to talk as much as possible and take mental notes. > > When you first meet her, you control the conversation by asking questions and let her do most of the talking; 20% speaking and 80% listening for you. Comment on what she says accordingly. Ask about her aspirations and goals. Getting to know her personal life might be interesting as well; what movie she likes, her hobbies and what she likes to do during her free time, etc. Don’t talk about religion (especially in your case and during your first date since you both have different religion), or politics. Take mental notes, and if you get a second date with her reverberate what she said on the first date. This will show her that you listened and you care about her (worked well with some of my Asian girlfriends). > > Ask her out on a date, but don’t push it. Take things slow since you said she is conversative. Tell her you like her and would like to get to know her better. Give her some time to think and give her the opportunity to make her own decision about you. Thanks for the advice, I think it’s helpful but I think I might do most of the talking than her though. See what happens, I think she is a very nice girl and I hope she can be my wife one day hopefully!! ---
**Author:** ![omicronau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7feea3/32.png) [@omicronau](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/omicronau)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2007, 11:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-works/4184/24 "2007-06-26T11:14:19Z")
Sorry to all the girls, here. I didnt mean “earn” it in that sense. I meant it more as in, when the relationship goes further, when it blossoms and grows, and the relationship has earned its worth in you saying that..when you are 101% certain that you do, then say it. I didnt mean for it to come across that way. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-works/4184.md?page=1)