# What should I expect from using IS and A314 together? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 14, 2006, 5:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-expect-from-using-is-and-a314-together/203 "2006-03-14T05:27:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 5:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-expect-from-using-is-and-a314-together/203/1 "2006-03-14T05:27:18Z")
I _just_ got themin the mail, and I have been reading about A314 for a long time, but I don’t really have a feel for how these two work in combination, even after looking through the forum… can anyone give me some of their experiences about how these specific two work together? How social, how sexual, how do men tend to respond, how do women tend to respond? Anyone notice anything that’s age group specific? Thanks in advance! ---
**Author:** ![evobenny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/91b2a8/32.png) [@evobenny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evobenny)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 2:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-expect-from-using-is-and-a314-together/203/2 "2006-03-14T14:15:48Z")
yoz hi cat! hehe seem u also found this new place? 😛 interesting place 🙂 so any stuff u tried and and good hits? ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 6:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-expect-from-using-is-and-a314-together/203/3 "2006-03-14T18:35:15Z")
A314 tends to pick up women of high status that are the stable healthy female. High Androstenone products like [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) tend attract more unstable women looking for one-night-stands(generally women with “issues”). Women looking for the bad boy will go for the instant jerk man, but don’t expect them to stay with you. A314 gives you a boost in status, power, leadership, and trust aura. You will have to approach or initiate more conversation with women, because of the increase in status you get from it. Women will often feel your too important and out of their league so it makes it harder for them to approach you on there own. If you can just initiate with women a little with A314 its a big advantage..it also reduces rejections. IShine seems to work on everyone. It brings on a sexual vibe by giving yourself a youthful healthy glow. It makes you and others around you feel good and draws them closer towards your circle or bubble..elliminating physical boundaries. It will also make you feel more confident and brighter mood. neither of these are very sexually oriented, but that doesn’t mean women want perceive you that way. It’s more sexy than sexual(aka I have my penis hanging out lets have sex vibe).the IS does give a sexual youthful vibe to women, but in a much more socially appropriate way suited for daytime use. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2006, 8:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-expect-from-using-is-and-a314-together/203/4 "2006-03-15T08:10:41Z")
Today I got to experiment with them. I put two drops of A314 on my forearms, then without thinking applied 2 sprays of my 50/50 The Edge/Cologne mix to either side of my neck. Then I panicked because I realized that dose/location makes me rage. So I put a couple inches of Scent of Eros on my face, too, and then covered the TE with IShine (2 sprays). The results were positively, absolutely unmistakeable. I spent the day with my assistant, who found herself becoming hot and flushed about the face and neck within 30 minutes. She also began broadcasting the “I’m in heat” scent, which I know a woman ONLY does when she’s aroused enough to be lubricating rather copiously. She didn’t make any moves on me because I’m her boss, but I could see out of the corner of her eye that she kept looking at me and biting her lip - another “I’m hungry” signal. As the day wore on, she grew quieter and quieter. I don’t mean she spoke less, I mean she was talking more and more softly. She began referring to me as “Sir” all the time. She made mention ofhow feminine she was feeling around me. She started following me, instead of walking next to me, as usual - and I must have heard her sigh fifteen times over the course of the day as she kept catching whiffs of my signature while walking behind me. She also commented about how I was such a good leader, and that she was “for some reason” wondering if she was good enough to be around me. There was one point where we were in a bookstore after having had a meeting to discuss distribution, and she had wandered off to read in the Photography section. I was taking a look at the magazine section. When I was ready to go (she had ridden to the bookstore with me) I walked over, made eye contact, and walked out. Only at the door, holding them for her, did I see if she had followed me, but I knew she had, and I knew she would. All this is very unlike her. She is a strong willed, attractive, self confident woman who has no qualms telling you what she thinks. The woman usually has brass balls. Today she was almost acting like a servant. All I can say is… wow. I can definitely see this mix attracting highstatus healthy women - and that is perfect. I could use a woman who is self confident and has some self respect and self esteem for a change. What sort of hits have you had from women of this type, Cloud9? Evobenny, up until recently, I was wearing either Pherlure + Scent of Eros or TE + Scent of Eros. Now I’m trying the mix I mentioned above. T’sgood. Have you tried any of the Androtics [Pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) Research products? ---
**Author:** ![evobenny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/91b2a8/32.png) [@evobenny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evobenny)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2006, 4:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-expect-from-using-is-and-a314-together/203/5 "2006-03-15T16:07:52Z")
nah not yet catlord, would be really keen on IS but well lacking funds, will be waiting for my paycheck! to come lol, any nice or funny stuff u think ? Mharris told me a product that seem to be like a hunting mone, i dun really know what it does but it seem interesting, and i dun know what can i use it for, i rarely play sports! lol ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2006, 9:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-expect-from-using-is-and-a314-together/203/6 "2006-03-15T21:56:29Z")
Nice hit catlord!!..a lot of her submissive feminine reactions seem to be derived from the A314. I mean I see a lot of A314 type reactions from your descriptions. the TE helped since she seemed to be in the responsive mode for Anone. sounds like a good combo. YEah..I find spraying TUTH and Anone based products to my neck/chest area makes me kind of edgy and tense. You might want to try putting 2 drops of A314 to each side of your neck and if you want another drop to your wrists. I’ve found 3 drops A314 further improved status and respect over even 2 drops around men and women. You may have to initiate slightly more with 3 drops because of the further increase in status and leadership effect. I love the effect. Long term effects on my male friends have turned them into looking up to me a lot more and calling me to do more stuff with them. Before A314 they would act like typical guys and there would be times one of them might blow me off, but it seems ever since I started using A314 around them on a regular basis thats all changed and they seem more bonded to me in (band of brothers) type of effect, they look up to me more, let me make a ton of decisions for them like I’m there surrogate boss or something. Hard to describe..just an overall improvement with friends and even my dad. My dad hardly ever yells at me or gets mad at me anymore since I’ve been wearing A314 around him and throwing in some IS and IO further improved response. Word to the wise..don’t wear Anone products around family or your dad..it makes them more edgy. Well I’m going off on a tangent…you’ll have to keep testing that combo Catlord and see if you keep getting similar consistent results. ---
**Author:** ![PHERSURF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@PHERSURF](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PHERSURF)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2006, 11:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-expect-from-using-is-and-a314-together/203/7 "2006-03-16T23:59:46Z")
I’ve had A314 for a while that I bought from another seller. When I wear it to work I definitely get more respect. I just received [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and Female Magic. Within about 30 minutes of applying IS my mood and confidence definitely improved! It may be placebo, but I’ve never been susceptible to placebo in the past. I’m not sure how it changed other people’s perception of me, if at all, but I like how it affected me. I also got Female Magic and Ammunition, which I haven’t tried yet. ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 1:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-expect-from-using-is-and-a314-together/203/8 "2006-03-17T01:37:36Z")
Ammunition is more of a standalone..you can add in IS and IFM with it, but I wouldn’t add anythings else since it covers the 3 main [pheromones](https://a314.com/) already with other ingredients. IFM may cause you to mello out or feel a little depressed..it’s a side-effect only to men. ---
**Author:** ![evobenny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/91b2a8/32.png) [@evobenny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evobenny)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 3:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-expect-from-using-is-and-a314-together/203/9 "2006-03-17T03:05:16Z")
i was wondering if is contain **Estratetraenol (estra-1,3,5(10),16-tetraen-3-ol)** something which is opposite of A1? so if we have ifm and is spray together would i counter the effect of depression in men from A1? ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 4:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-expect-from-using-is-and-a314-together/203/10 "2006-03-17T04:15:42Z")
IFM is an analogue of A1…IFM already has some other pheromones and tweaks to counter A1-like depression. in other words IFM is a better A1. No need to even add extra A1 with IFM. ---
**Author:** ![evobenny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/91b2a8/32.png) [@evobenny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evobenny)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 7:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-expect-from-using-is-and-a314-together/203/11 "2006-03-17T07:26:27Z")
i am not toking about A1 i am toking about **Estratetraenol… does IS have any** Estratetraenol? to counter the effect of the A1 in ifm * * * ---
**Author:** ![thr3shold](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thr3shold/32/2316_2.png) [@thr3shold](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thr3shold)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 4:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-expect-from-using-is-and-a314-together/203/12 "2006-03-17T16:06:16Z")
I believe they do, I think another forum member requested this and mharris was able to get some for them. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2006, 11:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-expect-from-using-is-and-a314-together/203/13 "2006-03-17T23:10:54Z")
My second chance to experiment with my above mentioned mix, I found myself in class. This particular class is an advanced class, so we show up, or not, as we please. The instructor does very relaxed teaching. That night, we were learning how to get into grad school. Right off the bat, the instructor (a man who could definitely be called a mix between the James Bond type and a biker) asks me, “Are you alright?” He seemed concerned, which is odd for him. I was also sitting near some very attractive women, one of whom I think is beginning to like me slowly. I ignored them, but got a number of glances. In class, the instructor spent 90% of his eye contact on me. The lecture wasn’t to the group, it was to me. He also did something else that kind of surprised me. When talking about which of us were likely to go on to grad school, he was pointing to people and saying things like “You’ll probably go, you’ll almost certainly go” - but when he turned his gaze to me, he said, “And you, you don’t have a choice.” I was a bit baffled as to why I wouldn’t have a choice, but as the lecture went on,I got the distinct impression he was expecting me to end up a professor myself. We were all five of us in his office, so everyone got a good dose of my mone could. I didn’t notice any sexual type responses at all this last time though. But the respect hits were meteoric! ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 7:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-expect-from-using-is-and-a314-together/203/14 "2006-03-20T19:04:47Z")
I can tell you **Estratetraenol** is not in IS or IFM. Mharris stated that is was experimental only. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2006, 9:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-expect-from-using-is-and-a314-together/203/15 "2006-03-20T21:05:08Z")
Couple more days of experimenting haven’t really shown much noticeableeffect. I suspect the two women who find themselves so aroused around me are only having magnified responses from what they usually have, instead of entirely new responses. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 1:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-expect-from-using-is-and-a314-together/203/16 "2006-03-21T01:32:20Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > Couple more days of experimenting **haven’t really shown much noticeable effect**. I suspect the two women who find themselves so aroused around me are **only having magnified responses from what they usually have** , instead of entirely new responses. Catlord, are you still talking about your IS:A314 combo, and are they still responding or not responding at all? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 5:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-expect-from-using-is-and-a314-together/203/17 "2006-03-21T05:16:56Z")
IS and A314 is a great combo. I prefer to add in some IO with IS and A314..On certain occasions I add in TUTH and IFM at night time or on dates. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 8:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-expect-from-using-is-and-a314-together/203/18 "2006-03-21T08:07:57Z")
> [@M&M](#): > > Catlord, are you still talking about your IS:A314 combo, and are they still responding or not responding at all? > > Thanks I’m using 1 spray TE applied to fore arms, covered by 2-3 drops A314 applied to my forearms, along with 203 sprays IS to the neck and 2" of SOE one per cheek. These two particular ladies continue to respond, but I believe the pheromones are only magnifying their previous response to me. I have not seen any overt sexual responses from any woman, but these two tell me they experience certain particularly interesting symptoms of arousal while around me when I wear the mix. They don’t show that they’re becoming aroused sexually in an obvious way, but they certainly are. I have not had the chance to ask an random women if my presence has them ready for sex yet. 😉 Can’t you just see that going down? Me: “Scuse me, but I’ve been sitting next to you for 5 minutes 15 seconds now here at the bar, and I was just wondering, are you experiencing any sexual arousal, and if so, is it directed at me? And what would those particular symptoms be, exactly?” LMAO I’m considering dropping the SOE and seeing what the rest does,but I notice the SOE makes me and those around me really chatty, which helps break the ice. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 8:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-expect-from-using-is-and-a314-together/203/19 "2006-03-21T08:11:53Z")
> [@Cloud9](#): > > IS and A314 is a great combo. I prefer to add in some IO with IS and A314..On certain occasions I add in TUTH and IFM at night time or on dates. Sounds like my day mix is similar to your date mix! I have begun attracting the presence of a particularlovely in one of my classes,too. She is very shy and skittish, but she has gotten into the habit of coming to my table after I eat lunch and listening to me ramble before we walk to class. She’s involved, but I know she likes me, because I have concluded that I remind her strongly of her long distance boyfriend. The mones aren’t helping her cause either. lol And today I was even approached enthusiastically by a girl who said she was admiring the notes I had been taking on oneparticular lecture and wanted to give me her e-mail if I would send her a copy of those notes… I’m sure that was the extent of her interest, but she was sitting behind me in class… how was she reading mynotes without trying awfully hard? ---
**Author:** ![International\_Playboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/48db29/32.png) [@International\_Playboy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/International_Playboy)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 1:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-expect-from-using-is-and-a314-together/203/20 "2006-03-21T13:36:03Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > I’m using 1 spray TE applied to fore arms, covered by 2-3 drops A314 applied to my forearms, along with **203 sprays IS** to the neck and 2" of SOE one per cheek. Wow! I hope that’s a typo! 😮 That would get really expensive for every day wear. 😛 [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-expect-from-using-is-and-a314-together/203.md?page=2)