# What should I use with 37 y/o MILF? (I'm 24) **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 1, 2016, 11:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-use-with-37-y-o-milf-im-24/66354 "2016-09-01T23:15:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JordieR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@JordieR](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JordieR)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2016, 11:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-use-with-37-y-o-milf-im-24/66354/1 "2016-09-01T23:15:21Z")
Saturday I’ll be visiting a woman 37 years old but she is a fine milf. We will be in the living room alone so I would like which of the products to use, how to use it and how long before I go there. And some extra tips as to how approach her will be great full appreciate. Btw I’m 24 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 12:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-use-with-37-y-o-milf-im-24/66354/2 "2016-09-02T00:02:27Z")
What have you got to choose from? If its the Newbie Kit, then [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) with a bit of extra TUTH would be my suggestion and dose a bit higher than your sweet spot as a woman in her late 30s will likely be more responsive to a more overtly sexual mix than a younger woman. Some IS would not go amiss if you have it and depending on how you judge her, IG or A314 could be a useful addition for maturity/status too. ---
**Author:** ![JordieR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@JordieR](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JordieR)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 1:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-use-with-37-y-o-milf-im-24/66354/3 "2016-09-02T01:37:58Z")
I have amm estra streng n normal one. tuth expert. Ishine. IO. IH n putative p102 fragrance neroli which I don’t know what that’s for. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 1:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-use-with-37-y-o-milf-im-24/66354/4 "2016-09-02T13:20:56Z")
Then Ammo/TUTH it is - and its up to your judgement of her if you want to use some IS to make the feel more pleasant. Heavy Ammo and 5mcg TUTH could well be a bit strong for your age but you may well get away with it around a more mature women. Their taste for Androstenone does tend to improve dramatically once they pass thirty but the extra balancing from the Nol and Rone in Ammo will still help round things-out nicely. You will need to practise careful finger control so getting half sprays if you want to use these around women your own age though. Keep some IO in you pocket as emergency moderation to use if she shows signs of OD - like wanting to GTF-away from you or wanting to rip your balls-off - and not in a good way! ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 4:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-use-with-37-y-o-milf-im-24/66354/5 "2016-09-03T16:36:00Z")
Please report your results, JordieR. Good or bad. ---
**Author:** ![JordieR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@JordieR](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JordieR)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 3:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-use-with-37-y-o-milf-im-24/66354/6 "2016-09-06T15:48:33Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Then Ammo/TUTH it is - and its up to your judgement of her if you want to use some IS to make the feel more pleasant. > > Heavy Ammo and 5mcg TUTH could well be a bit strong for your age but you may well get away with it around a more mature women. Their taste for Androstenone does tend to improve dramatically once they pass thirty but the extra balancing from the Nol and Rone in Ammo will still help round things-out nicely. You will need to practise careful finger control so getting half sprays if you want to use these around women your own age though. > > Keep some IO in you pocket as emergency moderation to use if she shows signs of OD - like wanting to GTF-away from you or wanting to rip your balls-off - and not in a good way! . Why is it consider too strong for my age. Like what could happen if I go with that much Androstenone on me. I know for her is right but why for me not. Thanks in advanced and sorry for asking to much, I’m really new to this so I’m trying to get informed before using it. ---
**Author:** ![JordieR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@JordieR](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JordieR)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-use-with-37-y-o-milf-im-24/66354/7 "2016-09-06T15:52:55Z")
> [@Conjurator](#): > > Please report your results, JordieR. Good or bad. Sorry but my delivery was late and I couldn’t go to her house as I had other more important things to do but I’ll definitely go to her house one of these days and by then I should have the pheros with me. ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 6:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-use-with-37-y-o-milf-im-24/66354/8 "2016-09-06T18:18:28Z")
Testing the products with other people in the meantime is also an option, this way you’ll learn to master the products 🙂. ---
**Author:** ![JordieR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@JordieR](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JordieR)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 6:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-use-with-37-y-o-milf-im-24/66354/9 "2016-09-06T18:25:10Z")
> [@Conjurator](#): > > Testing the products with other people in the meantime is also an option, this way you’ll learn to master the products 🙂. That’s true and I’ll do it once I get my delivery but knowing how to use it before applying is good as well. So if you could explain my question before the reply at you would be appreciated. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2016, 3:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-use-with-37-y-o-milf-im-24/66354/10 "2016-09-07T03:07:33Z")
Oh sorry, I seemed to have missed your question about androstenone. Well… Too much androstenone is refered to as OD, and that’s just bad. At your age, you are still generating lots of natural androstenone. So if you wear any, you should start low and work up from here if need be. -None, especially in TUTH, is steered by other molecules, but is still highly sexual. Some compare it to entering a room with your dick hanging out. It can appealing to some ladies, but wearing too much can seriously backfire. Girls will find you needy, creepy, scary or they will force their brain to ignore you altogether, this is refered to as ghosting. Some guys may want to challenge you, pick fights with you. Too much -NONE is bad, carve this on the bark of the nearest tree and remember those words of wisdom or learn the hard way, it’s your pick 🙂. At any cost, get TUTH regular (2.5 mcg), not the 5mcg version. Or save it for when you’re 40. ---
**Author:** ![JordieR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@JordieR](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JordieR)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 12:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-use-with-37-y-o-milf-im-24/66354/11 "2016-09-08T12:08:34Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Then Ammo/TUTH it is - and its up to your judgement of her if you want to use some IS to make the feel more pleasant. > > Heavy Ammo and 5mcg TUTH could well be a bit strong for your age but you may well get away with it around a more mature women. Their taste for Androstenone does tend to improve dramatically once they pass thirty but the extra balancing from the Nol and Rone in Ammo will still help round things-out nicely. You will need to practise careful finger control so getting half sprays if you want to use these around women your own age though. > > Keep some IO in you pocket as emergency moderation to use if she shows signs of OD - like wanting to GTF-away from you or wanting to rip your balls-off - and not in a good way! Sorry for asking to much man but why would IO would come handy if she wants to rip my balls off lol, what does it do, I always have a confusion between IH AND IO , like what is the difference, trust me I’ll use them on myself and see it for myself but I want to at least know what to expect. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 12:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-use-with-37-y-o-milf-im-24/66354/12 "2016-09-08T12:13:27Z")
IO is a bright/bubbly social, IH is more close/bonding/connecting, for deeper conversation. IO is mainly Alphanol, which is an excellent None moderator, so you could use it to reduce the overtness and get yourself out od-situation with TUTH or other overt sexuals. ---
**Author:** ![JordieR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@JordieR](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JordieR)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 12:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-use-with-37-y-o-milf-im-24/66354/13 "2016-09-08T12:51:07Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > IO is a bright/bubbly social, IH is more close/bonding/connecting, for deeper conversation. > > IO is mainly Alphanol, which is an excellent None moderator, so you could use it to reduce the overtness and get yourself out od-situation with TUTH or other overt sexuals. Awesome now I get it. Thanks man, you really been a big helping understanding the pheros. ---
**Author:** ![JordieR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@JordieR](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JordieR)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 11:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-use-with-37-y-o-milf-im-24/66354/14 "2016-09-10T23:26:41Z")
Ok so today she came to visit at my house, of course my family was here, but I didn’t cara, I sprayed 2 times normal ammo, 1 inta shine. She was talking a lot and seems normal like she is. I went to my room put one more ammo and tuth, she seems like she was turned off, went into room put one more ammo and io( to reduce the tuth I thought) after that she was crossing legs, showing cleavage and having good conversation. Sad part I wasn’t some with her. So it seems is like 4 sprays normal ammo and insta shine, works good, and then maybe one tuth( btw is the expert one lol) this is my report first time using pheros. Next Saturday Ima go to her house and will be alone with her. So any recommendation according to what happen. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 2:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-use-with-37-y-o-milf-im-24/66354/15 "2016-09-11T02:03:22Z")
Borderline OD in my opinion. 4 sprays of 1X ammo and 5 mcg of TUTH at 22 is a lot of -none. Why are you going for so much? ---
**Author:** ![JordieR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@JordieR](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JordieR)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 3:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-use-with-37-y-o-milf-im-24/66354/16 "2016-09-11T03:30:31Z")
> [@Conjurator](#): > > Borderline OD in my opinion. 4 sprays of 1X ammo and 5 mcg of TUTH at 22 is a lot of -none. Why are you going for so much? After all that she run to the restroom. Jajaja idk why. My whole purpose was to see if I could make her uncomfortable. Next Saturday Ina use 1 ammo extra strength and IS. Besides when I put 2 ammo it looks like didn’t have effect on her that’s why I put on more. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 10:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-use-with-37-y-o-milf-im-24/66354/17 "2016-09-11T10:02:05Z")
I agree that you seem to have found your limits with her - at least in polite company. Also you seem to have seen how IO dragged you back from the brink - and its conversational enhancement properties. 🙂 Next time, less Ammo but the same amount of IS (and maybe a shot of IO?) and add-in the TUTH when you are in a better position to get sexual. Remember that one spray 5mcg TUTH contains as much none as 2 sprays standard Ammo but with no moderation. Also remember that when you see her on her own, she may well be much more amenable to a more overt sexual - Women seldom feel like getting horny in front of someone’s family, they need much more comfort and preferably the sort of atmosphere that lets them freely lose their inhibitions for that! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JordieR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@JordieR](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JordieR)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-use-with-37-y-o-milf-im-24/66354/18 "2016-09-11T11:21:08Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > I agree that you seem to have found your limits with her - at least in polite company. > > Also you seem to have seen how IO dragged you back from the brink - and its conversational enhancement properties. 🙂 > > Next time, less Ammo but the same amount of IS (and maybe a shot of IO?) and add-in the TUTH when you are in a better position to get sexual. Remember that one spray 5mcg TUTH contains as much none as 2 sprays standard Ammo but with no moderation. > > Also remember that when you see her on her own, she may well be much more amenable to a more overt sexual - Women seldom feel like getting horny in front of someone’s family, they need much more comfort and preferably the sort of atmosphere that lets them freely lose their inhibitions for that! 🙂 Yea I’m going to use that set up you are telling me 2. But i think IO REALLY work magics. Thanks to mobocaster, that suggested to have that as back up. It was cool to see how she acted around when my family was present. Btw is it weird that I didn’t feel like any different feelings after I applied all that mone. I think my body produces a lot of that so that’s why is used to it. ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 11:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-use-with-37-y-o-milf-im-24/66354/19 "2016-09-11T11:38:56Z")
If you are looking to have sex with a lady at your place while your family is there, I think you should try and make her really comfortable instead of uncomfortable, you’d stand more chance. I agree with Mobo on that. ---
**Author:** ![JordieR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@JordieR](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JordieR)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 12:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-use-with-37-y-o-milf-im-24/66354/20 "2016-09-11T12:00:15Z")
> [@Conjurator](#): > > If you are looking to have sex with a lady at your place while your family is there, I think you should try and make her really comfortable instead of uncomfortable, you’d stand more chance. I agree with Mobo on that. Well that’s true but I noticed after IO she was really confortable and now she had the taste of it. I can only think if I made her feel that way when she was surrounded what would it be when she was alone with me. Let’s just wait till next Saturday [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-should-i-use-with-37-y-o-milf-im-24/66354.md?page=2)