# What to say? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 14, 2008, 3:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-to-say/17485 "2008-08-14T03:40:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Vman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vman/32/1347_2.png) [@Vman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vman)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 3:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-to-say/17485/1 "2008-08-14T03:40:45Z")
Ok so there is this bagel place next to my job. I’ve been going there for the 8 months I been working and recently they hired this new girl. I like her. Everytime I try to say something I either freeze or like something prevents me from it, phone rings, someone else says something, and etc. So the question is what can I say? How would I start? 😛 I know this is not a [pheromone](https://a314.com/) direct question but I wanted some advice. If you want to suggest what pheromone to wear, i’d appreciate that too. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![RaiderMagic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@RaiderMagic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RaiderMagic)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 4:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-to-say/17485/2 "2008-08-14T04:38:23Z")
Anything is game. You just have to make sure that you make strong eye contact with her and that the tonality of your voice emits confidence. You could negg her at first or start off by ordering something and direct the conversation towards something else. You should definitely wear [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) as once you initiate the contact, she’ll do most of the talking. ---
**Author:** ![Vman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vman/32/1347_2.png) [@Vman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vman)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 5:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-to-say/17485/3 "2008-08-14T05:39:39Z")
> [@RaiderMagic](#): > > Anything is game. > > You just have to make sure that you make strong eye contact with her and that the tonality of your voice emits confidence. > > You could negg her at first or start off by ordering something and direct the conversation towards something else. > > You should definitely wear Instant Openness as once you initiate the contact, she’ll do most of the talking. I wish I had some left = ---
**Author:** ![RaiderMagic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@RaiderMagic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RaiderMagic)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 6:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-to-say/17485/4 "2008-08-14T06:07:19Z")
Oops. I didn’t see that in your signature. ---
**Author:** ![bassmaster109](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4da419/32.png) [@bassmaster109](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bassmaster109)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 7:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-to-say/17485/5 "2008-08-14T07:08:36Z")
idk i think i would try instant shine because i have heard that it makes people around you happy or at least a little happy. but the main thing is you should probably just relax which is the key to stop freezing up and this could probably help a lot. but if that doesnt work i suggest just imagining that she is one of your friends who you feel comfortable around. 🙂 this has worked for me and the main thing is confidence is key, girls love that. 🙂 i do have some good advice for starting up a convo if you have troble with that which would be to see if you have anything in commen just by site another thing would be noticing something she has on that interests you. this can be helpful because it shows your interested in her. hope it goes well and she is the one for you. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 8:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-to-say/17485/6 "2008-08-14T08:59:54Z")
If you like this girl DO NOT neg her. Negging is something you really need to be good at to begin with and you need to have experience with. Practice on people whose response wouldnt matter to you. It could easily back fire if you get it wrong. Use a little AMMO, Really at your age your arsenal should be social heavy not anone heavy. You make enough anone. Go in to the bagel shop and wait till its not busy. If she waiting on customers she wont have time to chat with you. When you see its not busy its your chance to go up and order. Find a opening, anything that will start a conversation. Make a statement and end it with a question so she has to repond. Keep doing that. Dont go overboard on the questions though. example… Hi (check for name tag) How are you ? Dosnt look to busy today. Whats good on the menu ? Her… bla bla bla bla bla bla I assume she is around your age. You… (Place order) I cant believe summer is almost over, Are you going off to college this year ? (or something to that effect) Her… Bla Bla bla bla bla Depending on what she says will set up your next statement. Suppose she is going to college well you can talk about that. The point is to help keep the conversation flowing by ending with a question. Dont forget the statements or it ends up sounding like a interogation. Its as easy as that… Try to project a air of confidence, AMMO may help with that a little. Now this is when you would resort to a neg… Suppose she is not being receptive to the conversation. (remember it cant be busy cause she wont be receptive if it is) You could say something like (and its just a example because I dont know what she is wearing) “Man those smocks they make you wear are ugly but you pull it off well” It leaves her thinking “what the hell” LOL She is not sure if your saying she makes the smock look good or she is ugly like the smock. I still suggest you learn the correct way to neg before you try it though. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Tenant](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tenant/32/1668_2.png) [@Tenant](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tenant)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 9:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-to-say/17485/7 "2008-08-14T09:28:53Z")
Start with hello, and an innocuous observation. Negging might work, but it depends how secure and self-confident this girl is. Depending on your neg you might completely turn her off. ---
**Author:** ![SongBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/35a633/32.png) [@SongBird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SongBird)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 12:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-to-say/17485/8 "2008-08-14T12:47:09Z")
First off…DO NOT BUY HER FLOWERS!!! LOL!!! A coworker I know was in the same senario as you and he bought this girl flowers. Big Mistake…He know longer goes to this coffee shop…and after she received the flowers and found out who it was who sent them …she hid in the back everytime he showed up. What I would try and do…and It is tough…become her friend first some how. If you are shy like I, I would consider asking a friend (someone who is an extrovert) to join you when you go to order…and he ask her a few opening questions to break the ice…and you jump in the conversation when you feel the time is right. If I were you my goal question would be to find out where she hangs out with her friends. if you can find out that answer..make sure to let her know you plan on checking it out one of these days. Also…find out what night she goes there if you can..LOL!!! As for the pheros…I’m a noob…I’m still wet behind the ears 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Vman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vman/32/1347_2.png) [@Vman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vman)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 4:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-to-say/17485/9 "2008-08-14T16:25:34Z")
Thanks everyone, Tisha you should write a book lol.