# What to use next? **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 10, 2009, 7:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-to-use-next/25944 "2009-02-10T07:30:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![cancermoon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cancermoon/32/2064_2.png) [@cancermoon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cancermoon)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 7:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-to-use-next/25944/1 "2009-02-10T07:30:34Z")
I’ve been using [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) for the last week at work, with a couple of times of IO and TAF used on the days I didn’t use IShine (I used them separately). I didn’t really see much of a difference using the IShine, up to six sprays @ 1x 15mcg/spray. Would it be better to keep trying it at a higher amount of sprays, or give it a break and try something else? The other items I have are: IS/a, IH, P83, MX135, CTTM, TAF, TAL, MeoEst. I wasn’t really sure any of them were OK for work. The day I wore the IO, I had one guy talk my ear off for three hours LOL! I really wanted the IFM, but it was out, darn it. Would any of these possibly have somewhat of a same effect, although I do know it is different for each person… What would be a good combo with the IShine? (I realize I went a little crazy shopping…and I’ve got another order on the way…this is addicting, and I’ll be testing until summer at this rate! :o) Sorry for all the questions…if any experienced users wouldn’t mind answering though, I’d sure appreciate it! Right now I’m kind of limited to what I’m using at work as hubby is out of town for a couple more weeks ☹ so the sexy pheros have to wait. LOL. ---
**Author:** ![Smelly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smelly/32/918_2.png) [@Smelly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Smelly)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 5:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-to-use-next/25944/2 "2009-02-10T17:50:13Z")
Hey Chris, I had similar initial experiences with [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). However, when I accidentally doubled the usual recommended dose, I got some major hits (multiple DIHLs) and very pleasant self effects. Here’s my post on the subject: [Adventures with Instant Shine: "OD" works for me!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/adventures-with-instant-shine-od-works-for-me/25954) So you could just try upping your application levels first before adding other pheromones. It seems to have worked for me… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 5:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-to-use-next/25944/3 "2009-02-10T17:54:47Z")
> [@cancermoon](#): > > I’ve been using Instant Shine for the last week at work, with a couple of times of IO and TAF used on the days I didn’t use IShine (I used them separately). I didn’t really see much of a difference using the IShine, up to six sprays @ 1x 15mcg/spray. Would it be better to keep trying it at a higher amount of sprays, or give it a break and try something else? I agree with Smelly…some people just need higher doses…maybe your sweetspot is 7? or 8? Try increasing it and see what happens 🙄 You can also take a break with IS all together…try another phero or two, then come back to IS again…You may just need a pair of fresh eyes 🙂 It’s not always easy to see the hits, sometimes they are subtle and sometimes you don’t get it until a day or two later when you look back and realise “OMG…that was a hit” ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 8:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-to-use-next/25944/4 "2009-02-10T20:14:24Z")
might want to give the shine a break. even if the mixes dont affect you specifically, they can powerfully affect another person. i sprayed only 2 sprays in a car once and gave everyone a headache. if others dont know you are wearing pheros, they may attribute reactions to something they ate 😃 people here do OD on purpose, i think its fun and great, but i do stuff like that when im not around alot of people in closed areas. you can use shine with alot of what you have. 2/3 sprays of shine and TAF;or CTTM;or TAL (works awesome);or [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/)… meo-est im not confident with. someone else may help you there. also, you need not wait for hubby to wear IS/A, although its sexxay to the hilt, it isnt sex in 15 minutes. its more like wearing a hot pair of jeans or a top that flaunts what you have, but never offensively. also MX135 would be great to try out too, but it doesnt require helpers. its great on its own. let us know how you make out! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 1:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-to-use-next/25944/5 "2009-02-11T01:03:40Z")
It is easier to recommend products for you if you are a little more specific on what you want to see as far as reactions from others. You mention work. What are you shooting for here? Diane ---
**Author:** ![cancermoon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cancermoon/32/2064_2.png) [@cancermoon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cancermoon)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 5:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-to-use-next/25944/6 "2009-02-11T05:58:07Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > It is easier to recommend products for you if you are a little more specific on what you want to see as far as reactions from others. You mention work. What are you shooting for here? > > Diane Ah, ok! 🙂 Well, as far as work goes, I have this extremely moody (I swear she must be bipolar) supervisor that I would like to hopefully ‘mellow out’ a bit more–if possible. That is why I was hoping for the IFM at first. She is always concerned about making sure you know she is “The Boss” and that she controls what you do. It gets to be a little much, especially when I just want to take care of my residents and do a good job, and not play games. So, is there something among what I have that might do the trick, or is it just wishful thinking LOL? 😛 The other thing is that I tend to be a quieter, friendly person, which people take as being a ‘pushover’ at times. Especially some of the younger, male CNA’s. I’d like something that helps project a little more…assertiveness? I mean, I am assertive, especially when it comes to my residents and their care, and I don’t have a problem standing up to doctors, family members, or whoever when it is in their best interest; but in general, I’m just not a ‘bossy’ type person, and I think my CNA’s see me as easy to get their way with sometimes, until I **have** to act bitchy to get them to do what they are supposed to. And I hate doing that. I was hoping there might be a phero or two that would help ease the way towards a ‘happy compliance’ LOL. 😃 If that makes sense… ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 6:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-to-use-next/25944/7 "2009-02-11T06:46:42Z")
> [@cancermoon](#): > > Ah, ok! 🙂 Well, as far as work goes, I have this extremely moody (I swear she must be bipolar) supervisor that I would like to hopefully ‘mellow out’ a bit more–if possible. That is why I was hoping for the IFM at first. She is always concerned about making sure you know she is “The Boss” and that she controls what you do. It gets to be a little much, especially when I just want to take care of my residents and do a good job, and not play games. So, is there something among what I have that might do the trick, or is it just wishful thinking LOL? 😛 > > The other thing is that I tend to be a quieter, friendly person, which people take as being a ‘pushover’ at times. Especially some of the younger, male CNA’s. I’d like something that helps project a little more…assertiveness? I mean, I am assertive, especially when it comes to my residents and their care, and I don’t have a problem standing up to doctors, family members, or whoever when it is in their best interest; but in general, I’m just not a ‘bossy’ type person, and I think my CNA’s see me as easy to get their way with sometimes, until I **have** to act bitchy to get them to do what they are supposed to. And I hate doing that. I was hoping there might be a phero or two that would help ease the way towards a ‘happy compliance’ LOL. 😃 If that makes sense… One that you don’t have, but might want to think about for the future is MX134. It is instant trust/respect/ultra responsible vibe. As for your supervisor? MX135 can make you seem like a star and cause alpha females to give you more positive attention, and that might be helpful, unless she is the jealous type and resents all the attention you will get from others when you wear this. Be careful with the P83. A few people on here, and my husband and I have negative emotional reactions with it. Most people, from what I’ve read, respond well to it. But test it cautiously around her. Too bad we don’t have a stfu and go away [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) for the workplace to keep your supervisor away from you. MX274 would be ideal and might be another you might want to think about purchasing for the workplace. It tends to take irritability down to zero and promotes harmony. Diane ---
**Author:** ![cancermoon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cancermoon/32/2064_2.png) [@cancermoon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cancermoon)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2009, 7:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-to-use-next/25944/8 "2009-02-11T07:09:06Z")
> [@](#): > > Too bad we don’t have a stfu and go away pheromone for the workplace to keep your supervisor away from you. 😃 No kidding!! I’d definitely go for it then, but only if it worked just for her LOL. I believe I do have a to go of MX 274 coming in my next order, so I’ll be sure to give that a try and report on how it works.