# What was your worst mix ever? Share your pheromone backfires **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 4, 2012, 1:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-was-your-worst-mix-ever-share-your-pheromone-backfires/54063 "2012-01-04T13:13:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 1:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-was-your-worst-mix-ever-share-your-pheromone-backfires/54063/1 "2012-01-04T13:13:50Z")
Hey guys. So what was your **worst mix ever?** Did something you thought would work really well BACKFIRE? Did something funny and unexpected happen? 1-2-3-GO! ---
**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 3:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-was-your-worst-mix-ever-share-your-pheromone-backfires/54063/4 "2012-01-04T15:16:55Z")
P123 + None with no buffers… Ladies get cranky and aren’t afraid to tell you about it… no fun at all ---
**Author:** ![amstelbreur](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/amstelbreur/32/2111_2.png) [@amstelbreur](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/amstelbreur)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 3:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-was-your-worst-mix-ever-share-your-pheromone-backfires/54063/5 "2012-01-04T15:32:41Z")
3x TUTH, no buffers back when I was still skeptical about mones, ODing, and whatnot. The chick I was with said I smelt like an old lady. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 3:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-was-your-worst-mix-ever-share-your-pheromone-backfires/54063/6 "2012-01-04T15:34:20Z")
Anything involving P130 for me - for the same reason as above. I just get bonkers hits off of life sentence young girls, even with their mothers looking-on in horror. A314/[MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) was also a really bad one for me - just confused & repelled people who responded well to one or the other. Oh and most mixes involving cops - never had so many responses from pros, mentally fucked-up women and it turned two bisexual woman violent around me! ---
**Author:** ![okyoureabeast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/okyoureabeast/32/1395_2.png) [@okyoureabeast](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/okyoureabeast)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 3:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-was-your-worst-mix-ever-share-your-pheromone-backfires/54063/7 "2012-01-04T15:39:15Z")
One of these days I’ll go to the mall and just OD on some -none. I’m genuinely afraid to OD and have been taking my mixes very lightly as per recommendations on this forum. Then again, it will be fun to see what happens 😉 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 4:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-was-your-worst-mix-ever-share-your-pheromone-backfires/54063/8 "2012-01-04T16:50:36Z")
> [@okyoureabeast](#): > > One of these days I’ll go to the mall and just OD on some -none. ODing is all part of the learning process and it helps you establish your sweet spot for any given situation. Don’t be afraid. Most of the ime you will just get ghosted/ignored and I can’t see it getting much worse in a Mall environment. Pubs/drunken parties and clubs are the places you have to watch out for but are also exactly the sort of places where lower inhibitions and a more openly sexual environment mean you can get the best/strongest positive reactions to a high-none mix. A bit of common sense and presence will go a long way to avoiding any OD getting out of hand. 🙂 Just don’t do as I did and end-up in one of the roughest bars in town on your first time out with A314/IJ. :o 😮 ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 6:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-was-your-worst-mix-ever-share-your-pheromone-backfires/54063/9 "2012-01-04T18:55:53Z")
A314 + [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) + IJ Loaded up on all these mones, approx 4 drops A314, 7.5mcg P75 and, 3x of IJ. Legit almost fought one of my closest friends during an hour car ride, I was constantly being challenged and the amount of smartass answers kept coming which was uncharactaristic of the friends I was with. Also got a revelation that more alpha males responded better to the sig than more beta males. ---
**Author:** ![skeptical001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@skeptical001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/skeptical001)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 7:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-was-your-worst-mix-ever-share-your-pheromone-backfires/54063/10 "2012-01-04T19:06:55Z")
IO. Haha not really a mix but one of my roommates is one of those people that talks less when exposed to IO. I kept trying to put on more and more but I kept thinking that it didn’t work because I hang out with him a lot and he wouldn’t speak a word to me. After probably about two weeks I realized what was up. Here’s how much of an impact it made: I might have had on around 4ish sprays one night and we were hanging out it a group of about 10. No matter how hard I tried, he wouldn’t interact with me. It got kinda awkward. I could sense some tension between the other people too. I excused myself to the bathroom and washed my neck and wrists. The _ **second** _ I’m back in the group he starts talking to me about something we did earlier that day. ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 10:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-was-your-worst-mix-ever-share-your-pheromone-backfires/54063/11 "2012-01-04T22:58:57Z")
3x spaceland and 2x P126 then working the phones at a business.. now if you want to feel waisted at work…🙂 Thought it would help me relax lol ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 2:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-was-your-worst-mix-ever-share-your-pheromone-backfires/54063/12 "2012-01-05T14:47:36Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > A314 + P75 + IJ > > Loaded up on all these mones, approx 4 drops A314, 7.5mcg P75 and, 3x of IJ. > > Legit almost fought one of my closest friends during an hour car ride, I was constantly being challenged and the amount of smartass answers kept coming which was uncharactaristic of the friends I was with. > > Also got a revelation that more alpha males responded better to the sig than more beta males. For some, I can imagine this being a really good thing. Worst Mix Ever, or “Best Mix to Sabotage Someone You Don’t Like”? Alpha males? Really? ---
**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 5:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-was-your-worst-mix-ever-share-your-pheromone-backfires/54063/13 "2012-01-05T17:26:41Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > For some, I can imagine this being a really good thing. > > Worst Mix Ever, or “Best Mix to Sabotage Someone You Don’t Like”? > > Alpha males? Really? It makes sense to me… most legitimate Alphas respond in a secure way around men showing high aggression - Betas are more likely to feel insecure and respond with aggression in kind. ---
**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 5:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-was-your-worst-mix-ever-share-your-pheromone-backfires/54063/14 "2012-01-05T17:44:04Z")
Ah John, my worst mix but also my most obvious and potent mix ever is A314 + IJ. But in seriousness, the worst mix for me would be one that simply didn’t work for me no matter what I did. Specifically, I can’t recall off hand. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 6:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-was-your-worst-mix-ever-share-your-pheromone-backfires/54063/15 "2012-01-05T18:16:39Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Also got a revelation that more alpha males responded better to the sig than more beta males. Yes - I’d fully agree. I now try to save anything involving IJ for places where the more secure Alpha types dominate. Wear it around drunk betas and you are asking for trouble. Although the times I’ve worn it to a small hot karaoke bar and sung Stones and AC DC songs have been remarkable - Brought the place to a standstill and had people cheering and queuing-up to congratulate me, saying I did better than Jagger etc! 😮 I can carry a tune but I’m not that good! 😃 Although on two occasions there I have also had to deal with guys starting on me - one even walked up to me out of the blue and gave me a slap in the face. I was leaning on the bar, turned, straightened and squared-up to him and he backed-off fast. He then got grabbed by the bar owner and was turfed out! ---
**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2012, 7:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-was-your-worst-mix-ever-share-your-pheromone-backfires/54063/16 "2012-01-30T19:25:34Z")
You just had to ask. 1st day of school, junior year of high school. JUST got A314, and was ready to get SO many girls. 1 drop A314 1 spray AMMO 1 spray IS 1 spray IH 1 spray IO 1 spray IG 1 spray IFM yeah, i did that… I remember feeling VERY depressed, and GHOST EFFECT CENTRAL. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2012, 12:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-was-your-worst-mix-ever-share-your-pheromone-backfires/54063/17 "2012-01-31T00:04:18Z")
IJ or NPA ---
**Author:** ![Aghor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aghor/32/1558_2.png) [@Aghor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aghor)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2012, 9:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-was-your-worst-mix-ever-share-your-pheromone-backfires/54063/18 "2012-01-31T09:37:36Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > A314 + P75 + IJ > > Loaded up on all these mones, approx 4 drops A314, 7.5mcg P75 and, 3x of IJ. > > Legit almost fought one of my closest friends during an hour car ride, I was constantly being challenged and the amount of smartass answers kept coming which was uncharactaristic of the friends I was with. > > Also got a revelation that more alpha males responded better to the sig than more beta males. I have almost mimicked this one several times with A314 4 drop, [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) 5 - 20 mcg and IJ 2 sprays. never had much trouble with this. however whenever I replaced IJ with Heavy AMMO 2 sprays in the same mix, I kinda got a bit more aggressive .. not the angry aggressive, but more like laid back/detached but never yielding ground type. ---
**Author:** ![Butcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f08c70/32.png) [@Butcher](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butcher)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2012, 9:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-was-your-worst-mix-ever-share-your-pheromone-backfires/54063/19 "2012-01-31T21:10:17Z")
2 sprays Ammo + 2 sprays [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) The mix made me so insecure that I couldn’t even keep eye-contact with people. I just wanted to go home and wash it off. ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2012, 11:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-was-your-worst-mix-ever-share-your-pheromone-backfires/54063/20 "2012-02-01T11:08:52Z")
Ah I forgot, MX399 was terrible.. like instant fear life Heres a report from my journal lol > [@Learnings of a Twisted Ostrich - Phase 2](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/learnings-of-a-twisted-ostrich-phase-2/49150/62): > > I’ll comment very informally here about my first impressions of MX399, I knew very little about it other then that John said that it might be useful for suggesting/commanding people and that its not for attraction. So I put it on just before going to the gym to sort out an administrative issue, 2x and a little TAA. I was getting ready to go to the gym and tear some heads off, they hadn’t put my membership through so whenever I go to any gym in the country they give me hassles and think I’m sus… ---
**Author:** ![jett](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jett/32/438_2.png) [@jett](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jett)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2012, 2:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-was-your-worst-mix-ever-share-your-pheromone-backfires/54063/21 "2012-02-02T02:52:40Z")
2 sprays TUTH 15 mcg P79 I sprayed this on a couple before a photoshoot to increase chemistry. BIG MISTAKE. Girl was on the rag and just ended up clawing his eyes out (in a bad way). We got the shot after long last, but **she** was a wreck. ---
**Author:** ![BiffyFighters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/34f0e0/32.png) [@BiffyFighters](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BiffyFighters)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2012, 10:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-was-your-worst-mix-ever-share-your-pheromone-backfires/54063/22 "2012-02-03T10:51:01Z")
A couple of people have already said it (and i’m glad they have actually). [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) 2 sprays and Ammo 2 sprays. The girl i was sitting next too most of the night kept giving me “I just can’t figure you out” looks and excused herself halfway through the night and didn’t come back hahaha. She was a good friend before that and we had some chemistry but that…sort of scared her off. Also once wearing MX297 (3 sprays i think) and being drunk, i somehow had a panic attack. Although i’ve never had anything like a panic attack before i won’t blame it on the MX297. Other than these 2 occasions it’s a good one. Just don’t mix with ammo. Also ODing on cops and none (kinda goes without saying), has always got negative effects. When i got my first set of mones from AD, i went out and sprayed myself with pretty much everything at a party, got some great responses from 40+ women but almost got into a fight over nothing. Fun times. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-was-your-worst-mix-ever-share-your-pheromone-backfires/54063.md?page=2)