# What Women Want From Men **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [May 2, 2008, 2:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-women-want-from-men/12079 "2008-05-02T02:41:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 2:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-women-want-from-men/12079/1 "2008-05-02T02:41:47Z")
> [@zeph](#): > > Gawd, we really don’t. I’m probably the poster boy for this. I am dense as a rock. To be nerdy, dense as Iridium. > > But to clear up what I said, _ **I meant women giving guys tips on women. A guide to women so to speak…** _ for idiots like me. xD Regardless, I still love the comments and input that you gave. =) zeph..is this what you’re looking for? 🙄 Now it is written by a man…so I don’t know if it qualifies. I won’t say I agree on every point…but there’s one in paticular most people who know me…know I don’t agree on. Please don’t shoot me…I’m just the messenger. 😛 **Smooth Sailing** **“What Women Want (from men)”** **By Scott Andrews, Founder ([http://www.aspirenow.com/about\_founder.htm](http://www.aspirenow.com/about_founder.htm)) (with many female contributing editors!)** \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\ ***Really! What DO women want? Isn’t this one of the most challenging questions of all time? We thought “what men want” was difficult, but this is even harder.** **The epic struggle of mankind to figure out the inner workings of women is ages old. Even Sigmund Freud, the master of modern psychology, died trying to figure out women. It isn’t easy.** **I had a friend once joke with me that “men mostly want sex, woman want the right to be hypocritical, yet call men on their inconsistencies.” Yikes. No wonder men and women have struggles getting along!** **One reason why understanding women isn’t such an easy thing is because the ways women process thoughts and emotions are drastically different than their male counterparts’ ways of processing.** \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\ ***_Key difference between men and women: I’ve reviewed many studies that indicate women use emotion to process thought as their basis for decision making 30% more than men do._ As such, women are also known for being more intuitive than men. This is not exactly true, as men use intuition in different ways, and have different ways of communicating. Nevertheless, men tend to bond through shared activities, whereas women bond through sharing thoughts and feelings.** Now, men, before you freak out, this article isn’t about “what men want women to want” but more rather what women actually want from men. I’ve noticed that a woman will want to tell every little nuance of a story, where their male counterpart might be feeling like, “ok, what’s the point?” A man typically seeks a solution to the problem, as if the story was a problem. Or, he’s looking for a way to suggest something to help his woman improve, which is based upon competitive thinking (how men relate in conversation is much more competitive). In fact, a woman often is just relating this story to SHARE with him; there isn’t anything competitive about it. So what do women really want from their man? _The top 6 things women want FROM MEN, in order, are:_ _1. Women want men who exhibit confidence (or power)_ _2. Women want men with a sense of humor (fun)_ _3. Women want men with money or the things money can buy (sense of security)_ _4. Women want men with looks (protection and attraction)_ _5. Women want men with a bit of “Bad boy” qualities (mysterious and independent/strong)_ _6. Women want all the other stuff they typically list (varies - sensitive, caring, etc.)_ However, in interviewing countless women, and receiving numerous pointers from women (after all, I AM a MAN!) I must say that there is an expanded list for us guys to get familiar with, according to women. So, what is the expanded list? Men can get what they want from women much more frequently when they approach women with a few simple - yet effective - guidelines: 1. Women want a man to be confident! Confidence is the number one quality women look for. Don’t be wimpy. Don’t apologize for everything. Be real. Be you. 2. Women want a man who makes her feel like she’s the only one. Women go nuts over a man who will go the extra mile. For example, he opens the door for her, he walks on the right side of the street, he helps her shop. I’m talking about being a GENTLEMAN! If she is cold, offer her your jacket. If she is in trouble, protect her. If there is danger, put your arm around her. Be a real man. 3. Women want a man with a sense of humor. A woman will almost always love a man who can make her laugh. If you are dull, you are boring. If you make a woman laugh, you’re halfway home. Take a chance, be real, but be funny. There are several seduction experts who claim that being “cocky” and “funny” are the two most important qualities to attracting a woman. I agree. 4. Women want a man to listen to them (yes, even to the gripes and details of all the craziness) and not necessarily give advice. Many women love to complain about their problems; however, they complain not to receive advice, but merely to sound off. I know it’s hard to nod and be supportive, because you want to watch ESPN or do something that to you may seem more exciting, but the fact is, your woman will go to the ends of the earth to love you when you truly listen to them and acknowledge their needs. You need to understand that women need to VENT. Allow her this, and she’ll allow you in. Nod. Get involved and provide active listening feedback. Be truly interested in what she is saying without worrying about what you’re going to say next. Then, watch what happens as your woman opens up to you more. Women want men to listen to them, because they have a need to be heard. And, women want their man to express his feelings and trust her with his intimate side. Real listening, with real intimacy, is rare. Real listening is suspending thinking about what to say and being deeply engaged in what she is talking about. Listening requires actively paying attention – shutting off the chatter mind. 1. Women want men to treat them like they are the sexiest woman on the planet and that no other woman compares. Talking about your ex-girlfriends is not going to score big points with your new woman. Treating her like she’s the ONLY one will make her smile for quite a while. 2. Women want loyal men. Women want to know you will be faithful. Don’t tell a woman how you cheated on your ex. It won’t make her think you are wise, loyal, or trustworthy. I’m not saying to lie to her – just don’t go there. Don’t cheat on your woman. She will not think you are a better man for doing this. Just like you want think you are the only man she’s ever loved, well, that’s the thing she wants, too. The key to faithfulness comes from your own inner character. Be a man of character and you will reap a relationship built upon trust. You gain respect through consistent committed action. Respect backed up by love builds trust, trust builds a strong relationship that can stand the tests of life and time. 3. Women SAY they want a sensitive man. Truth is, if you go around apologizing all the time and crying frequently then a woman will abuse you. Trust me, it is NOT wise to do. This was well exemplified during the beach scene in the movie Bedazzled, where the main character in the film was trying to woo his love interest, his advice had been to “be more sensitive.” Well, he went so overboard, was so sensitive, that his love interest ended up walking away with another dude with the assumption that they’d have meaningless conversation and casual sex! Boy was HE surprised! Being overly sensitive is a quick way to get shown the door. It is important to strike a balance. Be strong, be there, yet share your emotions. Speak up and be real. Let them know you care. But don’t be a sissy. Women say they want to be treated like an equal. This is not true. Women want to be treated like a WOMAN. Not like a man. If she wanted to be with a woman, she’d do that. She wants to be with YOU. Therefore, be a MAN. This is not to be confused with being treated like a piece of property, not to be confused with being treated with disrespect. Women want to be respected! A woman wants to be respected for being feminine, being a woman. Women are quite different from men. A man who takes the time to understand the difference is a wise man. Bottom line here: NO MORE Mr. NICE GUY. Be a REAL MAN, not a sensitive NICE GUY. Because the nice guys usually do finish last. You still don’t get it? Ok, then try this: be your own bad self. I will say that some women are attracted to “Bad Boys”. I think there is a certain ruggedness to the bad boy - they break rules, they sometimes behave rudely. But the true gentleman always remembers what matters most. Have an air of mystique, but definitely be you. If, on occasion, that means doing what you want, rather than what she wants, then do it. Just don’t make a continual habit of it - that’s rude. 1. Women LOVE a man with a plan. Women love men with ambition. Men who know who they are, what we’re doing tonight, and what we’re doing with our life. If you don’t have a plan, get one. I have a plan (a) and plan (b) ready at all times, so that no matter what, it will appear I’m fairly spontaneous, but reality is I usually know where, when, and how the evening or date could go. In dating, it is extremely important that you have a plan when you ask a woman out. They will judge your sense of confidence by how well you have thought out where you will take her and what you will do together. So, think ahead, have a plan, then work that plan. While you’re at it make sure you have an alternative plan, too, in case she doesn’t like the first one! It is equally important for a man to know when to call a woman’s bluff and let her know when she is pushing his limits. A man who just falls over and laps at his woman’s feet is a man who is called “whipped” for a reason. An example is as follows: she asks, “what do you want to do tonight,” he says, “whatever you want to do.” If this is his consistent pattern, he’s whipped. She won’t respect him in the end. 1. Women want generous men. Don’t be a tight-wad. Give the woman in your life gifts. Like the Chairman of the Board, Ol’ Blue Eyes, Frank Sinatra, used to say, “you gotta gift 'em.” Well, I figure good enough for Frank, good enough for me. After all, Frank was a MASTER SWOONER. Guys, get this: Frank Sinatra went to Hollywood with a plan to take a lengthy list of top actresses in his movie studio to bed at some point during his career. As the story goes, he pretty much succeeded. Some women will frown when they read this - but guys, I know what you’re thinking: “who did Frank get together with?” Well, how about Gina Lollobrigida and Ava Gardner, for starters (I believe it was Angie Dickinson who claimed to abstain). That’s like saying Jennifer Lopez, Halle Berry, and Charlize Theron to today’s younger actor. So, maybe giving a gift once in a while isn’t such a bad idea. Just don’t go broke trying to impress her! After all, Frank Sinatra also had a stellar voice, plenty of swagger, and loads of star power to go with his ability to buy a gift or two. Nevertheless, small gifts, especially gifts that show you were listening when she mentioned her favorite candy bar, or when she stopped at that jewelry counter to admire those earrings (but put them back without buying them), or how she commented on how she’d just love that dress in the window of that snazzy clothing store. Well, use your own imagination. But if you don’t gift the woman in your life you’ll probably be referred to by the woman you love as “cheapskate”. Now, “why,” you ask, “do women care about gifts?” Good question. The answer is that one way women relate is through giving gifts - especially when you’ve paid attention to what they want. Women will gift exchange compliments with each other, too. So just trust me and surprise her with a gift every now and then and see if she doesn’t respond favorably. 1. Be a true friend. LISTEN TO HER. Let her share her good times and problems with you. Be there, rather than just promising to be there. Consistent committed positive action is a definition of love. How do you show you are a friend? Are you there when it matters most? Are you there for the small stuff, too? 2. Women want to be loved, despite their flaws, and need to be satisfied mentally, emotionally, and spiritually as much as physically. Unconditional love would be ideal love. How can you love a woman without judgment, conditions, or rules? How would you like to be loved? Sexually speaking, women define great sex differently than men, using words like soft candlelight, light touch, then becoming more aggressive as their mood rises to the occasion. A man, on the other hand, instantly rises to the occasion. Women want men to be their lover instead of obsessing over their body to just get sex. Rather than treat women as sex objects, treat them as someone to relate with; in other words, a real person! That means taking your time, showing extra attention, and being tender in ways with her to let her know she is special. 1. Women appreciate a man who is creative. Roses are nice. But sometimes it is extra special to think of something that most guys wouldn’t do for a woman. It could be something frivolous, but if it is something that you think SHE would like, then why not do it? You might have just made her day. 2. Women want men who offer a sense of security, to know that her partner will be there if she becomes sick or when she grows old or flabby. Giving a woman security is being there through emotional and physical support. An example might be if she has to have surgery. Take the day off and be there for her, hold her hand, and give your full support to her. In other words, postpone that “tee time”! Security comes from trust. Again, this is about being able to rely in your strength of character. Knowing these 13 traits, how can men better relate to women? First, men need to develop ways of listening more akin to how women listen to each other. Women nod and say “aha, wow, yes, uh-huh” much more than men do. Men listen more quietly when they speak, and consider such mannerisms as an interruption. Men may improve their chances if they are interactive in conversation. Relate to them. Carry on the story with the extra question. Men also need to cut the cheesy lines and just be genuine. An example might be how a man interacts with a woman in a bar scene. Instead of approaching her with some line like “your mother must be beautiful - just look at you,” a man can be more genuine: “Nice restaurant, do you like the food here?” would be a much better approach. If you are going to compliment a woman, pay attention to how women compliment each other. Good examples include: new hairstyles, jewelry, sense of style, great laugh. Poor examples would be her boobs, butt, or other body parts. Again, that makes her feel like a sex object or piece of meat. Relate and get the story behind that bracelet she’s wearing. Use “props” properly and you’ll get positive proposition results! One challenge men have is the tendency to see a woman as his personal sex toy. This is a real problem between men and women. He really needs to put aside the sex issue and consider the deeper issues: how does he feel with her? Does she make him laugh? Do they share common dreams and goals? When a man stops worrying about when or how he will get a woman in bed, the odds for a successful relationship improve dramatically. Men need to appreciate a women for the effort she goes through to be beautiful for him. A woman does not have to be a size 6 or have perfectly toned muscles or large breasts to be a beautiful woman. It is important for women to love their body (flaws and all), as this attitude creates confidence in herself – which is practically an aphrodisiac to a man. Appreciating what women go through is a way to develop gratitude. An “attitude of gratitude” goes a long way to improving a relationship. He can compliment her and let her know she is beautiful to him and that she is “perfect” to him. Last, men need to share in the responsibility of building a good relationship. Helping make each day fun; living on purpose with aspirations, sharing the good times, and taking on the crazy challenges life can present, is what makes relationships worthwhile. ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 3:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-women-want-from-men/12079/2 "2008-05-02T03:17:16Z")
How would you, as a female, react to a guy you would describe as perfect? What if you were unsure of his feelings for you? What if he’s sending mixed/no signals? How would you take his approaches? What did you want in a guy when you were younger? ~16, ~24, ~30, ~35 (how old are you?)? ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 10:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-women-want-from-men/12079/3 "2008-05-02T10:38:09Z")
Hey Bella! Thanks for the post! What would be the point that you don’t agree with??? ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 1:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-women-want-from-men/12079/4 "2008-05-02T13:02:55Z")
OMG! Now I know where I went wrong!😮 Great posting there, Sweetie! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 1:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-women-want-from-men/12079/5 "2008-05-02T13:20:28Z")
The frequency of you changing avatars with extraordinary cuties doesn’t show you going wrong anywhere… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 1:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-women-want-from-men/12079/6 "2008-05-02T13:27:16Z")
> [@bubblebob](#): > > The frequency of you changing avatars with extraordinary cuties doesn’t show you going wrong anywhere… 😃 …😃 😃 😃 ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 2:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-women-want-from-men/12079/7 "2008-05-02T14:36:44Z")
ooo thanks Bella. I only got to read the first few, cause I’m about to be late for school. Will finish as soon as I get back. =D ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 9:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-women-want-from-men/12079/8 "2008-05-10T09:59:41Z")
Sorry it’s taken me a while to get back here…had to help track down the..ahem…“mysterious repper”…lol…and said I’d answer his questions when I did…so…🙄 > [@Eldros](#): > > How would you, as a female, react to a guy you would describe as perfect? Well, ninjababe, I don’t see anyone as perfect. So upon meeting a guy I wouldn’t think he was perfect for me…he might _look_ perfect…but only time will tell if he is truly “perfect”, in the sense you mean, for me. So, if he expressed interest I would respond positively. > [@Eldros](#): > > What if you were unsure of his feelings for you? What if he’s sending mixed/no signals? How would you take his approaches? If I find him attractive but he’s sending no signals? I would do nothing. If he was sending mixed signals? I would keep my eyes open…but if I sensed he was ambivalent or too confused, for too long, to be clear about his signals/feelings..well..it’s no good. Indecisiveness about how he feels about me?..right from the get?..doesn’t bode well. I won’t wait too long for a guy to get off the fence. I’m not into guessing if he likes me. Not into torturing myelf…lol. I don’t do the unrequited love thing…been there done it…sucks. Fugettaboudit. I want a clear message. > [@Eldros](#): > > What did you want in a guy when you were younger? ~16, ~24, ~30, ~35? What I wanted in a guy when I was younger is typical: cute smart confident athletic honest faithful kind empathetic sense of humor easy to talk to _ **nice to me** _ I’ve always a nose for bad boys…ya…we get along…lol. No surprise there. 🙄 But I lean towards the ones who know when to be bad in the right context…and know when to couch it. I mean unless you’re really lettin’ your freak flag fly…in the wrong environment…we’re good to go…'n even if you’re a bad boy…ya still gotta be nice to me. 😉 Since I’ve..ah…matured…and learned from my myriad of mistakes…my criteria has grown…to include: good education ambition leadership abilities masculine ( that doesn’t mean you have to look like or be a linebacker) sensitive ( _not_ a simpering twit…mkay? But a guy who’s confident enough to express his own feelings and able to step outside of himself. Able to step outside of his _own_ desires to see the needs and feelings of others around him and to respect those feelings.) communicative respect for others thoughtful generous (I ain’t lookin’ for diamonds 'n pearls here) makes me feel desirable let’s me know _I please him_ Tall order?..you betcha. Maybe that’s not what others look for…dunno…dun care. That’s what it takes to get me…pretty much. I expect a lot because I give a lot. So, if he’s not up to the challenge, he shouldn’t throw his hat into the ring. Thing is…these traits are in all of us. They just need to be developed. To succeed you have to _want_ to develop them. Nobody’s perfect but we can all learn…and improve. Depends on what your goals are and what you’re willing to do to achieve them. > [@Eldros](#): > > (how old are you?)? Cheeky. Well…I’ve been married for twenty years 😮 ..uh huh…so I’ll let _you_ do the math. 😛 > [@bubblebob](#): > > Hey Bella! Thanks for the post! _ **What would be the point that you don’t agree with???** _ Nice guys finish last. That’s crap. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Nice guys don’t finish last. _ **Guys who don’t use their heads finish last.** _ That means paying attention in the right way and _listening._ As I said above\*…a\* “REAL MAN” is a guy who, not only, has a strong sense of self but is kind, sensitive and respectful to/of others…he’s in tune. You have to learn when and with whom to be that way. That’s what a “REAL MAN” is/does…to be fully developed _you have to be both_. I’m very independent. I can take care of myself. I need a man who appreciates that in me. But I, also, need a man who knows when I need to lean\* on him. _And I_ do\* want to be treated like an equal…at the same time I want to be loved and protected by a “REAL MAN”. I love nice guys…I married one. 🙂 There’s really a lot to this subject and it merits ongoing discussion. I don’t have all the answers. I can only speak for myself…if it helps at all… Well ninja, bob…did I answer your questions…in the right way? 🙄 …hope so… Bella ---
**Author:** ![ponderu](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ponderu/32/465_2.png) [@ponderu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ponderu)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2008, 9:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-women-want-from-men/12079/9 "2008-05-11T09:51:10Z")
Thank you Bella, A lot of this I just read in the Mystery method just in different words. Ponderu ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2008, 10:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-women-want-from-men/12079/10 "2008-05-11T10:23:01Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > _The top 6 things women want FROM MEN, in order, are:_ > _1. Women want men who exhibit confidence (or power)_ > _2. Women want men with a sense of humor (fun)_ > _3. Women want men with money or the things money can buy (sense of security)_ > _4. Women want men with looks (protection and attraction)_ > _5. Women want men with a bit of “Bad boy” qualities (mysterious and independent/strong)_ > _6. Women want all the other stuff they typically list (varies - sensitive, caring, etc.)_ My Thanks Bella for starting this thread 🙂 I have read about it. Well for the 6 things that women wants from men, I have met with two requirements No 1 begin to have high confidence in myself & No 6 easy to say No 6\>feelings Women want men to have feeling for them but i failed in the other four requirements there ☹ & you could say i can get a grad F on approaching girls. So it’s hard for me there. Hopefully with the pheros assistance from Androtics will help me out there. ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2008, 8:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-women-want-from-men/12079/11 "2008-05-11T20:00:17Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > Nice guys finish last. That’s crap. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Nice guys don’t finish last. _ **Guys who don’t use their heads finish last.** _ > > Bella oh eff… lol. I’d say I’m a nice guy, average intelligence… but when it comes to women, I’d say I have an IQ of 10. **F** ail. ---
**Author:** ![ajim102](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@ajim102](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ajim102)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2008, 8:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-women-want-from-men/12079/12 "2008-05-11T20:06:56Z")
thanks to bella for making me realize what do women really wants.now i think i can be more confident around women.🙂🙂🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2008, 9:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-women-want-from-men/12079/13 "2008-05-11T21:46:03Z")
> [@zeph](#): > > oh eff… lol. > I’d say I’m a nice guy, average intelligence… but when it comes to women, I’d say I have an IQ of 10. **F** ail. Thats impossible! anything under 30 and you’re pretty much a vegetable. ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 12:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-women-want-from-men/12079/14 "2008-05-12T00:14:33Z")
> [@Eldros](#): > > Thats impossible! anything under 30 and you’re pretty much a vegetable. err let me rephrase that. If there was an IQ based on how you dealt with women, mine would be 10. Anything under 30, you’re 6 feet under. ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 4:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-women-want-from-men/12079/15 "2008-05-12T04:22:55Z")
> [@PhatSounds](#): > > Women want men to have feeling for them but i failed in the other four requirements there ☹ & you could say i can get a grad F on approaching girls. So it’s hard for me there. Hopefully with the pheros assistance from Androtics will help me out there. Have you tried an old and forgotten method called “Kindness”?😉 “Love and kindness are never wasted. They always make a difference. They bless the one who receives them, and they bless you, the giver” - Barbara de Angelis ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 9:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-women-want-from-men/12079/16 "2008-05-12T09:37:29Z")
> [@Mohammad\_Shah](#): > > Have you tried an old and forgotten method called “Kindness”?😉 > > “Love and kindness are never wasted. They always make a difference. They bless the one who receives them, and they bless you, the giver” - Barbara de Angelis Tried that out already Mohammad kindness. Most of the girls not all are stone hearted sorry if that offended any ladies here but that’s the truth. Franky speaking, I’m tired with asian girls already but not Androtics pheros. I have make up my mind to go oversea studies & probably work there after i finish my advanced diploma here. I think i say too much there:o ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 9:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-women-want-from-men/12079/17 "2008-05-13T21:04:01Z")
> [@zeph](#): > > oh eff… lol. > I’d say I’m a nice guy, average intelligence… but when it comes to women, I’d say I have an IQ of 10. **F** ail. Zeph, you are a nice guy. 🙂…with obviously _above average_ intelligence. If you present yourself, to women you know, as well as you present/express yourself to the women/guys on this forum…I don’t see how you can be anything _but_ successful…you get my vote…BIG TIME! _Stop putting yourself down_…you’ve got what it takes…_I know_…\*I \*think you’re a doll. 🙂 😃 Thanks for the reps…guys \*and \*girls! 🆒 And Phat don’t give up on all women!! There are plenty of soft hearts out there…you just have to take your time and dig a little deeper…it’s there. You’re young…you have plenty of time…take the pressure off yourself with too many expectations. In the mean time work on yourself to get the things you want…it takes time, patience and practice…but it will come. The worst thing you can do is harden _your_ heart…that closes doors and makes it next to impossible for _anyone_ to get in…trust me. Leave the door ajar…you never know when someone wonderful may wander in…and ya don’t wanna miss it. 😉 Bella ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 9:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-women-want-from-men/12079/18 "2008-05-13T21:54:02Z")
> [@PhatSounds](#): > > Tried that out already Mohammad kindness. Most of the girls not all are stone hearted sorry if that offended any ladies here but that’s the truth. Franky speaking, I’m tired with asian girls already but not Androtics pheros. I have make up my mind to go oversea studies & probably work there after i finish my advanced diploma here. I think i say too much there:o You have to be kind, yes but you also have to let other know that you are not someone who will not let others walk on you. I’m kind. . . imagine that! ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 9:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-women-want-from-men/12079/19 "2008-05-13T21:59:58Z")
> [@Eldros](#): > > You have to be kind, yes but you also have to let other know that you are not someone who will not let others walk on you. _ **I’m kind. .** _ . imagine that! I know you are…dun mean you gotta be a rug. 🙄 It actually takes strength to be kind _and_ to allow yourself to express it…in the right way. Once again…this is “REAL MAN” territory…'n you got it covered, ninjababe. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 2:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-women-want-from-men/12079/20 "2008-05-14T02:14:00Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > I know you are…dun mean you gotta be a rug. 🙄 It actually takes strength to be kind _and_ to allow yourself to express it…in the right way. Once again…this is “REAL MAN” territory…'n you got it covered, ninjababe. 😉 Ninjababe? Awww!!! That’s sooooooo cute!!!😛 Eldros! You’re damn lucky man!😃 [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-women-want-from-men/12079.md?page=2)