# What works: BUSINESS APPLICATIONS (sales, meetings, etc) **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 23, 2006, 1:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220 "2006-03-23T01:10:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2006, 1:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/1 "2006-03-23T01:10:28Z")
Okay, I figure I’d start some threads aimed at SPECIFIC topics, and ask for SPECIFIC recommendations. Please post your BEST products/applications/mixes that you have developed for **BUSINESS APPLICATIONS (sales, meetings, etc)** Please post things that have worked, not just idle speculation. Please note possibly pertinent information such as ages (yours and “targets”/“test subjects”), environment, etc. And do what would you think if your mix (or someone elses mix) were turned into a general room diffuser-dispensed product? (eg the Oust fan.) ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 1:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/2 "2006-03-25T01:07:47Z")
I am in my late twenties, have sharp features, am of average build, 5ft 9, slightly above average looks, OD easily on -None (suffer from the Lone Wolf/Clint Eastwood Effect) and am a bit quite and serious with people I dont know well. I’ve found a bit of -None added to social/comfort products (like ANol, WAGG) helpful in terms of closing sales. I noticed that there was less time taken in customers’ decision-making (could be the same thing going on as why it is useful in closing the deal with girls romantically). Of course, you need to be careful with -None in a professional setting and I would never try NPA/TE again as it can cause unprovoked aggression from customers/workmates. I have never tried A314 in sales but I assume this would help buffer negative effects from -None along with other things like IFM, etc that would buffer these negative effects… As far as the office, I find A314 (1-2 drops from the strong white-capped ‘mutant’ version) useful in terms of creating an aura of respect and trust. If I do OD on this, I DO NOT get aggressive responses from people (as with None-ODs) rather I might have some of the younger guys and women generally backing off a bit and creating a ‘too serious’ vibe (the guys 40+ though generally react nicely though even then). Anyway the OD can easily be reversed by applying extra social/comfort mones. I always wear social/comfort products to the office with A314 though like IO, IS, and WAGG. I also like to refresh products throughout the day depending on what I want to achieve. For example, if I have a group social gathering, I’ve found spraying TAL (5 mcg) effective in creating an extra friendly presence around me. I’ve found spraying TAA (10-20 mcg) throughout the day quite nice as well for getting some kind of ‘young, healthy, attractive person’ vibe happening towards me… TAA, like [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), also helps to boost my confidence, so that I end up cracking jokes with people whom I’m usually intimidated by. Visionary ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 1:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/3 "2006-03-27T13:46:42Z")
> [@](#): > > I’ve found a bit of -None added to social/comfort products (like ANol, WAGG) helpful in terms of closing sales. I noticed that there was less time taken in customers’ decision-making (could be the same thing going on as why it is useful in closing the deal with girls romantically). Of course, you need to be careful with -None in a professional setting and I would never try NPA/TE again as it can cause unprovoked aggression from customers/workmates. I have never tried A314 in sales but I assume this would help buffer negative effects from -None along with other things like IFM, etc that would buffer these negative effects… What is your sales environment? How long are you usually with your customers? Do you sell high ticket items (that benefit greatly from more rapport/trust from the salesman)? You simply must try A314, silly! 😉 😃 Have you tried a beta-nol heavy product like [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) or Come Talk to Me? I swam in beta-nol while I attended a few seminars. _Boy_ does it make my job easy. Armed with the deep betanol fueled rapport I could have sold _anything_ to _everyone_ I talked to\*. \* I find that A314 and beta-nol is _brilliant_ in sales situations. A314 instillsthe trust/respect, “Trust me to guide you to the right choice because I am truly here to help you”-feeling in clients/customers. A shade of beta-nol on top of that really deepens and seals the rapport between you automatically so that you _barely_ even have to open your mouth. They’ll spill out exactly what you need to know to sell them exactly what they want with about a sneeze’s worth of effort on your part. > [@](#): > > For example, if I have a group social gathering at work, I’ve found spraying TAL (5 mcg) effective in creating an extra friendly presence around me. 😮 TAL, really! 😛 How does this “extra friendly presence” differ from, say, an anol or TAA effect? Ie, what makes TAL different/appropriate and why did you choose it? > [@](#): > > I’ve found spraying TAA (10-20 mcg) throughout the day very effective at getting some of the older women (45+) in the office to treat me like I’m some kind of a sexy young thang… TAA, like Instant Shine, also helps to boost my confidence, so that I end up cracking jokes with my boss and other people high-up whom I’m usually intimidated by. 😛 😛 haha.. “sexy young thang”… Yes! I notice that on Shine (which of course you know is jam packed with TAA) I start to get really funny, too! Cracking jokes and being all around humorous. _Especially_ around folks I’d normally be intimidated by. ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 11:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/4 "2006-03-27T23:00:28Z")
A314 has business application written all over it!!! IS puts others around me in a good mood nearly withing 2-3minutes of being in a car with them. I’ve literally seen my dad go from pissed to being in a good mood and asking me where I’d rather go eat within 3 minutes wearing A314, IS, and IO when I stepped into the car. ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 8:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/5 "2006-03-28T08:08:17Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > What is your sales environment? How long are you usually with your customers? Do you sell high ticket items (that benefit greatly from more rapport/trust from the salesman)? > > You simply must try A314, silly! 😉 😃 > > Have you tried a beta-nol heavy product like Instant Honesty or Come Talk to Me? > > I swam in beta-nol while I attended a few seminars. _Boy_ does it make my job easy. Armed with the deep betanol fueled rapport I could have sold _anything_ to _everyone_ I talked to\*. \* > > I find that A314 and beta-nol is _brilliant_ in sales situations. A314 instillsthe trust/respect, “Trust me to guide you to the right choice because I am truly here to help you”-feeling in clients/customers. > > A shade of beta-nol on top of that really deepens and seals the rapport between you automatically so that you _barely_ even have to open your mouth. They’ll spill out exactly what you need to know to sell them exactly what they want with about a sneeze’s worth of effort on your part. The sales environment was an upmarket, fast-paced department store. We sold big-ticket items (like $1000+ Vacuum Cleaners and Coffee Machines) as well as cheaper kitchen appliances… I could spend anything from a minute to 40 minutes with a customer… I do not work in the retail/sales industry anymore and when I did, I did not know about A314 or beta-nol… I am sure they would be useful though like you say… All I know is when I had a little -None on with stuff like ANol, -Rone (SOE) and WAGG, the customers were more attentive to my presentation and did not ‘dilly dally’ for long when making a decision. I am sure my sales figures were positively affected by -None. I often wondered if there was a lot of post-purchase buyer’s regret as I saw many of them take the plunge and make purchases when they would have waited and thought things through more if I hadn’t worn -None on that day. I also noticed a few of my bosses (they were guys in their early 20s too) had naturally high-None signatures and while they both had poor people skills with the staff, when it came to sales of big-ticket items to customers, they did great! > [@Jasmin](#): > > 😮 TAL, really! 😛 > > How does this “extra friendly presence” differ from, say, an anol or TAA effect? Ie, what makes TAL different/appropriate and why did you choose it? Well I chose TAL because I read somewhere on the forum (I think one of your posts) that it really increased a woman’s confidence so I decided to orded it as I am such a mad scientist. So far I have been impressed - it is great value for money. I mean 2 \* 2.5 mcg sprays lasts is all it takes for me to get hits consistently and it last for a few hours. All this for only $14 a bottle! Remember I add later in the day to my IS/IO/A314/WAGG mix which I apply every work morning. Anyway so far I have noticed less of a ‘friends’ vibe with the younger guys (early to mid 20s) then with pure ANol. I think I have noticed that slight ‘authoritative’ effect you speak of as one of the younger guys is a bit intimidated - doesn’t look at me in the eyes as much for example as without it… other than that nothing negative to report at all about it… I have noticed more positive conversations and connections with the ladies than with ANol. Maybe a crude way of describing is like a cross between ANol and A1. > [@Jasmin](#): > > 😛 😛 haha.. “sexy young thang”… > > Yes! I notice that on Shine (which of course you know is jam packed with TAA) I start to get really funny, too! Cracking jokes and being all around humorous. _Especially_ around folks I’d normally be intimidated by. Yea I love TAA. I like spraying it (10-20 mcg) a number of times during the day. It gives me a real confidence/mood boost and makes me more outspoken. Only problem (if you can call it that!) is it can be over-social and flighty - people naturally just tend to get into your space with it on. Ah the problems we face we we master the use of a pheromone 😃 … Seriously though I think TAA needs something added for rapport (maybe ANol) and also something to close the deal (a little Anone?)… I am really interested in the effects of fast diffusing molecules (given my success with experimone TAA) and am currently trialling application of Experimone ANol several times a day… Visionary ---
**Author:** ![Cloud9](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cloud9/32/1736_2.png) [@Cloud9](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cloud9)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 1:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/6 "2006-03-28T13:50:52Z")
You really should try out IO and A314 with your TAA spray. That would be a great combo at work or any situation really. It’s what I use a lot. I’d order the double strength IO though instead of the 15mcg/spray version. ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2006, 4:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/7 "2006-05-09T04:52:42Z")
I nailed my interview today while wearing A314 + IH (kept it simple). I applied 1 drop of A314 under my chin, another along my upper lip, and I applied two sprays of IO to my neck. A314+SOE (similar to IO)has been a long time business and presentation mix for me, but IH to me seemed more appropriate to me for an interview. Both A314 and IH have a ‘calming’ effect on the wearer, so it helped ease my nerves before and during the interview. Mind you this wasn’t just a regular old interview for me…It was for an internship at a financial services/investment management company that I see myself building a career at post graduation. Not to attribute everything to the [pheromones](https://a314.com/) or anything, but the interview lacked any real tension…I felt fully like myself and composed during the interview, and was able to exhibit a bit of control during the interview as well. Long story short, pending a background check, I pretty much got the job. ---
**Author:** ![noblelady](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/noblelady/32/2391_2.png) [@noblelady](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/noblelady)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2006, 3:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/8 "2006-10-18T15:23:06Z")
nicely done! 🙂 > [@sigma](#): > > I nailed my interview today while wearing A314 + Instant Honesty (kept it simple). I applied 1 drop of A314 under my chin, another along my upper lip, and I applied two sprays of Instant Openness to my neck. A314+Scent of Eros (similar to IO)has been a long time business and presentation mix for me, but IH to me seemed more appropriate to me for an interview. > > Both A314 and IH have a ‘calming’ effect on the wearer, so it helped ease my nerves before and during the interview. Mind you this wasn’t just a regular old interview for me…It was for an internship at a financial services/investment management company that I see myself building a career at post graduation. > > Not to attribute everything to the pheromones or anything, but the interview lacked any real tension…I felt fully like myself and composed during the interview, and was able to exhibit a bit of control during the interview as well. > > Long story short, pending a background check, I pretty much got the job. ---
**Author:** ![BabaKool](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/babakool/32/1855_2.png) [@BabaKool](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BabaKool)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2006, 2:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/9 "2006-11-14T14:02:58Z")
> [@Cloud9](#): > > A314 has business application written all over it!!! > > IS puts others around me in a good mood nearly withing 2-3minutes of being in a car with them. I’ve literally seen my dad go from pissed to being in a good mood and asking me where I’d rather go eat within 3 minutes wearing A314, IS, and Instant Openness when I stepped into the car. I’m a total newbie to pheromones and rather than looking to sexually attract members of the opposite sex, I’m looking for pheromone/combinations which will facilitate my job in sales. Can anyone advise please! ---
**Author:** ![BabaKool](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/babakool/32/1855_2.png) [@BabaKool](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BabaKool)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2006, 2:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/10 "2006-11-14T14:07:52Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > What is your sales environment? How long are you usually with your customers? Do you sell high ticket items (that benefit greatly from more rapport/trust from the salesman)? > > You simply must try A314, silly! 😉 😃 > > Have you tried a beta-Androstenol heavy product like Instant Honesty or Come Talk to Me? > > I swam in beta-Androstenol while I attended a few seminars. _Boy_ does it make my job easy. Armed with the deep betanol fueled rapport I could have sold _anything_ to _everyone_ I talked to\*. \* > > I find that A314 and beta-Androstenol is _brilliant_ in sales situations. A314 instills the trust/respect, “Trust me to guide you to the right choice because I am truly here to help you”-feeling in clients/customers. > > A shade of beta-Androstenol on top of that really deepens and seals the rapport between you automatically so that you _barely_ even have to open your mouth. They’ll spill out exactly what you need to know to sell them exactly what they want with about a sneeze’s worth of effort on your part. WOW! There’s a lot of information here for Mr Newbie! I have just started a new job selling high-value business information solutions to corporate clients. I’d like some advice on how I can enhance interactions with new clients and instill confidence whilst trying to close the sale. Can someone explain which [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) combinations I need to try? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![countesszero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/countesszero/32/1392_2.png) [@countesszero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/countesszero)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2006, 2:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/11 "2006-11-14T14:57:55Z")
when I’m wearing A314 in a business setting I’m in complete control. As it should be. A314 is the way to go for sure. ---
**Author:** ![BabaKool](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/babakool/32/1855_2.png) [@BabaKool](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BabaKool)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2006, 3:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/12 "2006-11-14T15:31:42Z")
> [@countesszero](#): > > when I’m wearing A314 in a business setting I’m in complete control. As it should be. A314 is the way to go for sure. Thanks for this. Can you tell me how it’s effects manifest themselves in business situations. It could well be that you already had a formindable presence before A314 :o)! ---
**Author:** ![countesszero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/countesszero/32/1392_2.png) [@countesszero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/countesszero)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2006, 5:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/13 "2006-11-14T17:10:11Z")
Yes I would agree that I had a formidable presence to begin with. A314 has helped when I have to hold a meeting with people I’ve never met. They seem to instantly look to me for affirmation of ideals and I’m easily accepted without me having to say a word. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2006, 5:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/14 "2006-11-14T17:42:26Z")
I just got to watch the newest batch of A314 in action the other night while shopping. It was applied to one of my male friends. There was lots of deference (people yielding the “social right of way”) and respect. It’s like a change in the pecking order. You move up closer to the top. It’s a ton easier for _me_ to notice some things as not just a third party, but as a _woman_. **We see things you guys can’t**. When you find a good, observant “wingman” (or winggirl!) - use them. They’re _indispensable_ for noticing hit. Even though most guys view it as a business product, it definitely creates a certain type of attraction that’s embarassingly OBVIOUS to women. It’s just not the kind of thing most guys would notice, because of what the pick up artists call male pattern blindness. It’s not outright sexual reactions like you’d get to a male stripper, it’s more romantic and dreamy with A314. More like swooning , which is something most men are definitely not tuned into. “Now _that’s_ a man!”, they say in their heads as their heart flutters. Anyway, back to business… 🙂 When you wear it, what’ll probably be easiest for you to notice as a man is the amount of cooperation you get. How people look to you as an authority. Someone to follow. Sometimes you get that literally when walking with a group… people often act like little ducklings following the A314 man. I should also add that guys wearing A314 act differently. They stand taller. Walk smoother. They seem to assume more status automatically. “Fill the shoes” so to speak. ---
**Author:** ![BabaKool](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/babakool/32/1855_2.png) [@BabaKool](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BabaKool)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2006, 6:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/15 "2006-11-14T18:23:43Z")
This is precisely the information that I was looking for - and precisely what I need to achieve in my new job. I’d also like to know how I can modify this effect to put ‘subordinate’ staff at their ease while not losing respect. I’m a laid back and easy-to-get-on-with type of guy by nature, and I love to make people feel at ease and to laugh when circumstances allow us to relax a little. This pheromone thing is SO fascinating!! ---
**Author:** ![BabaKool](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/babakool/32/1855_2.png) [@BabaKool](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BabaKool)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2006, 6:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/16 "2006-11-14T18:24:53Z")
I think I’d do anything you ask me to, Ma’am :o)! ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2006, 7:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/17 "2006-11-14T19:31:08Z")
> [@BabaKool](#): > > This is precisely the information that I was looking for - and precisely what I need to achieve in my new job. I’d also like to know how I can modify this effect to put ‘subordinate’ staff at their ease while not losing respect. I’m a laid back and easy-to-get-on-with type of guy by nature, and I love to make people feel at ease and to laugh when circumstances allow us to relax a little. This pheromone thing is SO fascinating!! The one thing about A314 is that it’s a rather serious tone. Not a negative serious tone, but rather… well… you could call it “deep”. You’re like the wise and successful father figure. A314 is bit like James Bond during non-action scenes – very _competent_ with a just dash of excitement. A better, true to life example might be the “Adventure Capitalist” billionaire Richard Branson (again, when he’s NOT doing his way out there stunts). When I met Richard, I noticed he actually smells like some of the pheromones in A314. For light hearted stuff, we have [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and Instant Shine. Instant Shine, especially, will get you some giggles. Not everyone is a “responder” (someone who the pheromone mix works on in an obvious manner), but the 70-80% of people who are _loooooove_ it. It also makes some people discard the rules of personal space, which can be fun. 🙂 We also have a test pack for a potential new product called Liquid Sunshine. They’re 5 mixes that have some elements of Openness and Shine combined. There may also be some Spaceland left. That was a novelty product designed especially to take the edge off. Spray it in your hair (which transmits pheromones VERY well), and it’ll take the edge off a little _too well_ for most people (it can make some into drooling air heads). It has an essential oil package which not everyone likes the smell of, but the plant compounds do seem to accentuate the effect. For your uses, I might recommend 2 to 3 drops of A314 on days when you have to meet with the serious ones who are above you in the corporate foodchain… and maybe just 1 drop when you’re with normal staff, with a little Shine, Openness or Liquid Sunshine added. Once you try these and get to know the effects of the products alone, you’ll better understand how to combine them best for you. ---
**Author:** ![BabaKool](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/babakool/32/1855_2.png) [@BabaKool](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BabaKool)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2006, 8:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/18 "2006-11-14T20:33:08Z")
Hey Princess Jasmine 🙂 Many thanks for this information and advice and I’m on it already. Looking forward to receiving my orders and to giving you some feedback. I wanna conduct a couple of double blind tests and see how it all pans out! > [@Jasmin](#): > > The one thing about A314 is that it’s a rather serious tone. Not a negative serious tone, but rather… well… you could call it “deep”. You’re like the wise and successful father figure. > > A314 is bit like James Bond during non-action scenes – very _competent_ with a just dash of excitement. A better, true to life example might be the “Adventure Capitalist” billionaire Richard Branson (again, when he’s NOT doing his way out there stunts). When I met Richard, I noticed he actually smells like some of the pheromones in A314. > > For light hearted stuff, we have Instant Openness and Instant Shine. Instant Shine, especially, will get you some giggles. Not everyone is a “responder” (someone who the pheromone mix works on in an obvious manner), but the 70-80% of people who are _loooooove_ it. It also makes some people discard the rules of personal space, which can be fun. 🙂 > > We also have a test pack for a potential new product called Liquid Sunshine. They’re 5 mixes that have some elements of Openness and Shine combined. > > There may also be some Spaceland left. That was a novelty product designed especially to take the edge off. Spray it in your hair (which transmits pheromones VERY well), and it’ll take the edge off a little _too well_ for most people (it can make some into drooling air heads). It has an essential oil package which not everyone likes the smell of, but the plant compounds do seem to accentuate the effect. > > For your uses, I might recommend 2 to 3 drops of A314 on days when you have to meet with the serious ones who are above you in the corporate foodchain… and maybe just 1 drop when you’re with normal staff, with a little Shine, Openness or Liquid Sunshine added. > > Once you try these and get to know the effects of the products alone, you’ll better understand how to combine them best for you. ---
**Author:** ![smoothplayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@smoothplayer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smoothplayer)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2007, 12:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/19 "2007-02-06T00:15:53Z")
ya know, for the past several days I’ve felt like i’m having one of those bouts of being OD’d on androstenone from too much ammunition usage. still, it’s like in the past week 3 people have offered me jobs without me even asking! people have been trying to ‘hook-me-up’ with nice jobs. i honestly don’t know if it’s the androstenone from ammo, or just a coincidence. one thing I’ve noticed is Androtics androstenone is waay more powerful than androstenone from LS. Sorry LS, it’s true. just 2.5mcg from [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is just like wearing a dab of NPA (which is supposedly ~ 10mcg of androstenone, but probably lower quality). ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 5:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220/20 "2007-02-23T05:41:32Z")
> [@smoothplayer](#): > > one thing I’ve noticed is Androtics androstenone is waay more powerful than androstenone from Love Scent. Sorry Love Scent, it’s true. just 2.5mcg from Ammo is just like wearing a dab of NPA (which is supposedly ~ 10mcg of androstenone, but probably lower quality). I’d say ammunition is fine tuned, and that’s why it is more effective. It doesn’t rely on androstenone to get it’s effect. It exploits the positives of -none for sure. So far the testing on ammo has shown that whatever else is in it buffers the negatives, and adds to the effects. Quality of the product may be an issue, but for the most part a chemical is a chemical. That can change if there are different isomers. Look at the differnce between carbon and diamonds. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220.md?page=2)